Xone: DB4- the official unofficial thread
Xone: DB4- the official unofficial thread Posted on: 18.10.2011 by Romelia Stankard (former thread title Xone: DB4- convince me not to sell off my possessions and drain my bank account)I mean it's just a mixer, nothing I should sell my S4 and some other expensive possessions for and drain my bank account completely for... right? I am having a hard time with this decision. I know it won't make me a better DJ, yet it gives me the urge to make irrational spending decisions. Please talk me out of it. | |
nayit ruiz jaramillo 13.12.2011 |
Originally Posted by Xonetacular
When you go thru the setup wizard you 'have' to select one the the Certified mixers in the list. Traktor detects what mixer it is connected to. It doesnt necessarily know what mixer it is (you could connect any old thing), it just knows what mixer it isnt, and the DB4 isnt a DJM. Good luck. But i guess you were joking in the first place right??? |
Romelia Stankard 12.12.2011 |
Originally Posted by photojojo
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Leeanna Ayla 12.12.2011 |
Originally Posted by Xonetacular
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Romelia Stankard 11.12.2011 | Alright guys I have an idea on how to scratch certify the DB4, I believe I can get it working. So I'm asking myself, what's the difference between a scratch certified mixer like the DJM-900 and the DB4? Well nothing really, just a little code injected from NI and a Traktor Scrtach Certified sticker. So I'm believeing, I've got an Audio 8 DJ and I'm just going to hook up the A8DJ to the DB4 and suck the scratch certifiediness right out of it into the DB4 through a firmware update, slap on a scratch certified sticker, say a prayer, and if all goes well I'll have a scratch certified DB4 ready to go. I'll make a video of the process, let's hope this works. |
Rochel Gleese 04.12.2011 | I'd love one of these but the non-certification for TSP2 and the problems everyone seems to be having make this a phat no-buy for me until next year at least. Seriously WTF is up with the dodgy outputs and things on such a high end mixer? I wonder how many they are selling, low enough numbers where they should be hand tested before shipment??? |
Amira Gotcher 05.12.2011 | A&H support are pretty good. Drop them an email, I normally get a response within 24 hours. |
May Artman 04.12.2011 | Little update on my issue - called to ask what I needed to do about repair/replacement, they told me to open a support ticket online, did that, 4 days later the ticket was closed with no response. I always anticipate dealing with support will be a evening mare, but I was hoping for it to be better after buying the most expensive mixer on the planet. Oh well. |
Dorie Scelzo 01.12.2011 | It takes a very nice mixer to not amplify noise if there's not a signal running into basically any input. I wouldn't expect that of any DJ mixer because, well, it just doesn't matter. |
Romelia Stankard 01.12.2011 |
Originally Posted by DJ Bob
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Carlee Pickard 01.12.2011 | What the fuck. Fuck all of you and your DB4s. /rage /rant /jealousy :eek: |
Amira Gotcher 01.12.2011 | This is perfectly normal behaviour for there to be a bit of noise on the analogue inputs. My db4 has it too, as has every other mixer I have owned however the db4 is much quieter than most. My djm800 had about 10 times more noise through the headphone channel even when using the digital inputs! The digital and USB inputs on the db4 are totally silent. |
Romelia Stankard 01.12.2011 |
Originally Posted by Rexx
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Philip Degener 30.11.2011 | yes! I'm currently saving for this bad boy. ...reading about the ups and downs of it is not only good info but helping to keep me motivated. |
Larae Knifong 30.11.2011 | Thanks for checking! The squeel is very faint, but I would be using this on a massive system. I like the setting at 0 rather than -28.0. As long as this is a normal thing, then I'm good to go. I'll be taking this thing with me to Hawaii in mid Dec. so I'll check the squeel issue. Just another question, are my posts on this thing of value to anyone? I don't want to update my experiences if it's a waste of time. I just haven't found a better community as A&H website won't let me register. |
Romelia Stankard 30.11.2011 |
Originally Posted by Rexx
edit: I just checked and if you lower the headphone trim in the setup menu down quite a bit it goes away. Not really an issue for me though. |
Romelia Stankard 30.11.2011 |
Originally Posted by Rexx
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Larae Knifong 30.11.2011 | Hey guys, So I just brought home my replacement, new-in-box, unit. Judging by the s/n it's only 7 units later than the previous. I still get the same faint squeel with the NEW unit when the channels are switched to analogue, and the phono is selected on both the 2nd and 3rd channels. Again, nothing connected to the mixer except the power cord. But it's not as bad. But I do have something else that I never encountered or checked with the old unit. I notice that when I have music running on a channel, the fader up, master down to zero, the headphone at zero, I can hear the track faintly playing in my headphones. The headphone setting is at +0.0. I can come to conclude/justify a reason in my head IF this is a design feature, BUT do any of you have this? Usually when you have the headphone volume at zero you shouldn't be able to hear anything. For the guy who posted the dodgy mixer comment.... I agree. I'm believeing I shoud return it and get a full refund while I still can. Then wait a year, because I still love how the mixer sounds. |
May Artman 30.11.2011 |
Originally Posted by Xonetacular
For a 2,500 piece of kit I was believeing the same thing but I almost wonder if folks are dealing with grey market goods.
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Larae Knifong 29.11.2011 | I believe it depends on where you live. When I went to visit a friend in the Middle East who had just bought one. There was nothing wrong with hers and it has an an ealier S/N than mine. With all the radio waves flying around due to cell phone towers, satellite radios, etc. in Canada/US the DB4 could just be vulnerable to picking these stray frequencies. I don't know... I'm just guessing. My problem was with using just the phono inputs. I was getting a wierd, but faint, squeel signal... somthing like satellite feed. Since I get my own vinyl pressed, having the squeel was not good enough for me. When using the digital and ubs inputs the DB4 was absolutly silent. When I brought the machine to a friend to have thresholds tested, he couldn't find anything that would be problematic. Everything was at a acceptable range. My Middleastern friend will be comming to visit me for Christmas and I've asked her to bring it so we can see if she gets the same squeel. |
Romelia Stankard 29.11.2011 |
Originally Posted by DigitalDevil
I get some noise with turntables hooked to an audio 8. It only makes noise when analog input is selected and I suspect a ground issue. |
Rosina Steinkuehler 29.11.2011 |
Originally Posted by MrPopinjay
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Kiyoko Wellisch 29.11.2011 | Bloody hell these things are dodgy... |
Larae Knifong 28.11.2011 |
Originally Posted by DigitalDevil
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May Artman 28.11.2011 | Chiming in here to add my DB4 to the injured reserve list - getting a lot of noise on the right channel of the master XLR out. No idea what kind of process I need to go through to get it repaired/replaced, but I assume it won't be quick or easy, especially if I have to mail it across the pond. |
Romelia Stankard 24.11.2011 |
Originally Posted by kevz718
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wnJpI8nSwwo |
Cliff Lohman 24.11.2011 |
Originally Posted by djproben
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Romelia Stankard 24.11.2011 |
Originally Posted by djproben
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Danae Dumler 24.11.2011 | I'd just like to point out that this thread is probably single handedly responsible for this: http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-1...increased.html |
Vada Branyon 23.11.2011 | rable rable rable No idea how to post a youtube link... -edit- ooooooo... it's automatic! |
nayit ruiz jaramillo 23.11.2011 | Ok it seems that Kev has started a new thread. I am not encouraging people to go over to NI and start bangin their fists on the table. Any such posts will be deleted. I dont want NI bollocking me for a load of people joining the community
just to shout at them. I see nothing wrong in people adding a +1 or giving good reasosn for why Certification would help with their use of the DB4 and Traktor. NI are aware that there is demand for Certification but they wont be swayed by tub-thumping. |
Vada Branyon 23.11.2011 |
Originally Posted by Karlos Santos
If you say it would matter that we post on the community s. I will make an account and put in an effort over there. I love my xone. I don't really have a need for the certification at the moment, but i can see that a lot of people do. It would be nice for the occasions where i borrow some techs from a friend. I know the thread you are speaking off and i regularly look into it, just to see what mixarchitekt drops over there. |
Kiyoko Wellisch 23.11.2011 | Someone should go to the HQ with a load of donuts and say they ain't sharing until it's certified. I mean come on, no one can resist the ones with jam inside. |
Hipolito Scionti 23.11.2011 | I'd maybe get one if they did... no way I can justify that kind of money on a mixer not scratch certified. Even if Andy C does use the midi function on it Why doesn't some one (who cares enough) start a new thread on DJTT called "Please NI and A&H, scratch certify the DB4). Peoplec an comment on that then someone can just send that one link to A&H and NI showing that the DJTT community are looking for scratch certification. Just an idea... |
Kiyoko Wellisch 23.11.2011 | So- anyone believe we'll see a DB1 which will be like a Xone:22 on steroids? I might buy that. :P |
Romelia Stankard 23.11.2011 |
Originally Posted by Karlos Santos
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nayit ruiz jaramillo 23.11.2011 | Yeah mate get involved in the community
discussion. Its quite long now. Its true that NI dont live and breath in the community but Mixarkitect posts a lot and the more people post the better. Obviously we dont want "Just f*cking certify it already" kinda posts, but im sure some of the good debate that is posted on DJTT would help to be on the NI community as well. |
Cliff Lohman 23.11.2011 |
Originally Posted by Karlos Santos
I hope others are doing the same.. I heard they dont check the community much so I figured submitting official tickets to their support team was the better route. Would u suggest the community as well? |
nayit ruiz jaramillo 23.11.2011 |
Originally Posted by Jay Melis
I have to say, i see quite few people complaining about the DB4 not being certified on DJTT but i dont see you all on the NI community making concise and well mannered suggestions that it is. Dont get me wrong, you shouldnt have to do it !!! (get that point before you rail at me). But, it all helps to add to the clamour for Certification. Im still under the impression that when the DB2 comes out A&H will have approached NI to certify it and the DB4. |
Cliff Lohman 23.11.2011 |
Originally Posted by Xonetacular
Xone - lemme know how the Audio 8 works out with db4? I believe u lose the input matrix flexibility by doing this.. is that right? In other words, u can no longer route the same track to a seperate db4 channel via the input matrix knob on db4. |
Vada Branyon 23.11.2011 | That's what happens. If Andy c wasn't so busy playing shitstep, he could've put his time into getting NI to endorse our sweet mixer. |
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