Xone: DB4- the official unofficial thread
Xone: DB4- the official unofficial thread Posted on: 18.10.2011 by Romelia Stankard (former thread title Xone: DB4- convince me not to sell off my possessions and drain my bank account)I mean it's just a mixer, nothing I should sell my S4 and some other expensive possessions for and drain my bank account completely for... right? I am having a hard time with this decision. I know it won't make me a better DJ, yet it gives me the urge to make irrational spending decisions. Please talk me out of it. | |
| Romelia Stankard 21.11.2011 | Rotary update: A&H responded and said they forwarded the idea to the dev team so who knows, it would be cool. If it sounds like something you're interested in you should send a ticket to a&h support as well so they see there is more interest. |
| Romelia Stankard 21.11.2011 |
Originally Posted by 3IJ
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| Philip Degener 21.11.2011 | just a question to any of you d-bags that have this thing....how are you liking the EQs? do you find yourself preferring the ISO or filter mode? |
| Romelia Stankard 19.11.2011 |
Originally Posted by Rexx
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| Larae Knifong 19.11.2011 |
Originally Posted by kevz718
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| Larae Knifong 19.11.2011 | I had a ticket about the rotary option too! |
| Kiyoko Wellisch 19.11.2011 |
Originally Posted by Xonetacular
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| Romelia Stankard 19.11.2011 |
Originally Posted by space monkey
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| Cliff Lohman 20.11.2011 |
Originally Posted by 3IJ
ppl were getting them for 2100 few weeks back and i was just pm'ing with somebody who tried to go to same place but couldnt get lower than 2300. I guess itll fluctuate for a while but i cant see it dropping below 2000 anytime soon.. Anybody know when the xone92 came out what the street price was and what year it was? Whats the lowest u can grab one of those for now? 1400? That would probably be the best indicator of what to expect long term on these bad boys. |
| Philip Degener 20.11.2011 | this thread is dangerous to my wallet. my first mixer was an allen and heath mix "wizard" and ive always loved a&h because of it. im still waiting to see if the price comes down some. but when you subtract the cost of a controller and a soundcard out of the price it's not that bad. |
| Branden Wentler 19.11.2011 |
Originally Posted by Xonetacular
It hit me last evening while filming a function check video of the Xone:92 with the DB4 nearby. |
| Romelia Stankard 18.11.2011 | Yeah it does DNB just fine. I'm mixing and I realize there is potential to easily turn the DB4 into a rotary mixer with a small firmware update. All they would have to do is swap the D/W knob and the volume fader on each channel so the linear fader becomes D/W and the big chunky knob (which by the way is the same knob used on the 92R and Xone: S2) becomes volume. Seems pretty simple and it is laid out perfectly so that you could actually have a rotary mixer with a firmware update, that is absolutely huge. You could switch between rotary mixer and linear mixer with a press of a button! I'm going to go talk to A&H about this, they must have thought of it...? |
| Kiyoko Wellisch 18.11.2011 | Sweet. I'm impressed. |
| May Artman 18.11.2011 |
Originally Posted by MrPopinjay
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| Romelia Stankard 16.11.2011 |
Originally Posted by photojojo
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| Leeanna Ayla 16.11.2011 | Why don't you route a channel through traktor on your sound card and record it in there, then put the audio on the video? Or even line in on the computer and use audacity. |
| Romelia Stankard 16.11.2011 | I really wish I could show everyone who is at all interested in dj gear who has never heard a DB4 what this thing and the effects sound like on a good soundsystem. Absolutely incredible. I have been experimenting with the NxtDoor reverb some more and have come up with some cool mixing/efx techniques. Basically I will turn NxtDoor on on the incoming cued track channel 100% wet with expression knob all the way to the left (I believe it is filter but the lows are boosted that way most), then an agressive slope on FX ADJ. At the very start of a long breakdown on a track I will start the incoming track and mix it in with the effect on all the way wet so it sounds like it is being played in another room then very slowly bring the D/W down over the course of the breakdown of track A so it sounds like it is getting closer and closer until finally it 'enters' the room. Alternatively you can create an awesome effect where you have NxtDoor engaged on each channel at the same settings with the incoming track 100% wet and the outgoing track 100% dry then you turn both knobs so it is like you are walking from one club room to another each with a different track. As a bonus the D/W knobs are the same as the volume knobs on the Xone: 92R so it feels like you are mixing on a rotary mixer. So cool I will have to make some effects video demos but I don't know if my camera can do justice to the sound. I encourage you DB4 owners to give it a try and let me know what you believe. |
| Romelia Stankard 16.11.2011 |
Originally Posted by Rexx
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| Larae Knifong 16.11.2011 | @kev - There was actually a few reasons why I didn't buy from them. Mainly warranty issues a I don't live in the US. Your previous post mentioning the drop-ship turned me off too. We have a different distributor. So I spent more to get the best warranty and service. |
| Cliff Lohman 16.11.2011 |
Originally Posted by Rexx
I believe this is how most places are selling these (drop-ship from distributor) so they are all coming from same place. ProAudioStar was the absolute cheapest deal around by quite a bit. Luckily Im in their neighborhood so I did a cash deal. I've used them for other stuff in the past and they are pretty good and straightforward guys imo. I certainly dont know them well enough to vouch for them personally but they seem OK to me + they are the cheapest around for most everything you could want.. I dont believe they could somehow get faulty units for cheaper if its coming from distributor and quite franctly, if they have to replace them - it wouldnt benefit them to do so even if they could.. |
| Larae Knifong 16.11.2011 |
Originally Posted by Xonetacular
The noise you were getting is alot different. I have powered speakers too but your noise was worse. I thought something fried inside. The noise is like when you tune your car radio between stations. |
| Romelia Stankard 16.11.2011 |
Originally Posted by Rexx
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| Larae Knifong 16.11.2011 |
Originally Posted by space monkey
How high did you have the volume up? Each line gain was at 12 o'clock and all faders were up. I can start to hear the noise with master, booth, and heaphone volume around the 1 o'clock mark. It really sounds like aliens are trying to communicate though my mixer using radio static. I raised a ticket with A&H yesterday and they closed it today but raised the priority on it. Not sure what that means.... Though I am concerned they haven't updated me personally. I'm assuming this is a known issue with them. I read somewhere that resetting the mixer solved the problem. I tried this, but didn't work for me. Maybe they'll address it in the next firmware. |
| Branden Wentler 16.11.2011 |
Originally Posted by Rexx
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| May Artman 17.11.2011 |
Originally Posted by MrPopinjay
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| Cliff Lohman 17.11.2011 |
Originally Posted by Xonetacular
Ya.. theres something funny that happened like this with midifighter.. if I pressed a midifighter button, it would cause the db4 menu screen to come on. Havent figured that out yet.. I cant really see why it would happen since db4 is on channel 16 and I believe mf was set to channel 3.. any ideas? would a midi signal of: channel 16 e1 + channel 3 e1 cause a conflict? I definitely have some midi commands that are the same but I thought that being on different channels wouldnt cause a conflict.. maybe Im wrong.. |
| Larae Knifong 16.11.2011 | Hey Xone. Can you check something for me? I noticed that when I have all the channels switched to analogue that I get some sort of radio static and high pitched "weeeeeee" comming through. It's not very loud, but it is certainly not silent. This is also there when there is nothing attached to the mixer other than the power cord and headphones. |
| Romelia Stankard 16.11.2011 | I was kind of panicking last evening
believeing something was wrong with this new mixer hooked up to traktor. I was mixing and I noticed when I flicked the filter assign switch to assign the 2nd channel to filter 2 it cut the audio completely on the channel whether the filter was on or not. It was only happening on the 2nd channel strip and when I assigned that channel to no filter or filter 1 audio came back as normal. I had traktor minimized while this happened so I didn't see what was going on on screen and it turns out the db4 was sending a conflicting midi signal with an old map I had in traktor and was stopping and restarting the deck. Pretty crazy and a big relief, I guess the db4 sends midi signals for everything on the mixer? |
| Philip Degener 16.11.2011 |
Originally Posted by Xonetacular
http://www.residentadvisor.net/community ...aspx?id=136248 |
| Leeanna Ayla 16.11.2011 |
Originally Posted by Rexx
http://www.djranking s.com/community /showthread.php?t=40367 |
| Kiyoko Wellisch 16.11.2011 | Could you try it out with some heavy and erratic breakcore + jungle and see how well it picks it up? Like bong-ra - murda you. Should be 168 bpm I believe. Try it with the intro which is more basic and then reset the bpm thnigy try it from the drop? Plz? |
| Romelia Stankard 15.11.2011 | So far seems to be functioning as it should. I have only played vinyl through it so far though- it's really nice having such accurate BPM detection and loopers when playing records. |
| Cliff Lohman 15.11.2011 |
Originally Posted by Rexx
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| Larae Knifong 15.11.2011 | @Xone - Yah I saw that thread, but chose to stay out of there. I'm not a Traktor or NI user and this one is strictly about the gear...sort of. |
| Romelia Stankard 15.11.2011 |
Originally Posted by Rexx
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| Larae Knifong 15.11.2011 | @kev - I didn't have to upgrade the firmware as 1.02 was in it already. Theres a vid of A. Rigby-Jones at UK BPM 2010 (google this> Allen & Heath Xone DB4 - live demo at the UK BPM Show 2010 approx. 06:24mark) where he shows all the delay FX. There's somthing like a BP Delay 1, 2, 3, 4, 5. And much more. I don't have these. It looks like there's more reverbs and mods too. Worth a look anyway. @Karlos Santos - it's a shame for this thread to go off-topic. It's the only active "English" thread I've seen on the net about this mixer. My french, spanish, and german vocab is terrible and I probably sound mentally challenged on those sites. |
| Romelia Stankard 15.11.2011 |
Originally Posted by Rexx
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| Cliff Lohman 15.11.2011 |
Originally Posted by Rexx
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| Kiyoko Wellisch 15.11.2011 | omg so guys waiting for the postman is so annoyin AM I RITE? (back on track for off topic, yeah?) |
| nayit ruiz jaramillo 15.11.2011 | @Rexx, your post just saved this thread from being relegated to 'Off Topic' +100 Interwebs to you sir. |
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