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Xone: DB4- the official unofficial thread
Posted on: 18.10.2011 by Romelia Stankard
(former thread title Xone: DB4- convince me not to sell off my possessions and drain my bank account)


I mean it's just a mixer, nothing I should sell my S4 and some other expensive possessions for and drain my bank account completely for... right?

I am having a hard time with this decision. I know it won't make me a better DJ, yet it gives me the urge to make irrational spending decisions. Please talk me out of it.
Lilliana Perris
15.11.2011		LOL.....reminds of of the Charlie Sheen Comedy Roast.

"Enough with the WINNING.....I have already WON!"

Larae Knifong
15.11.2011		Hey guys,

I just want to say thanks for all the comments on this thread it really helps.

So now I just wanted to post something about the DB4 which I haven
nayit ruiz jaramillo
15.11.2011		This thread started out (its seems like 10 years ago now) about a mixer.
How has this thread become an 18 page monster.

Its one post away from going in Off-Topic
Romelia Stankard
15.11.2011
Originally Posted by mostapha
When you realize that they're all just toys.

I'm really not kidding about that
Lilliana Perris
15.11.2011
Originally Posted by Xonetacular
sweet, that's in a few weeks why the wait though?
Mate....I ordered it in Aug already. Never arrived. So they finally sent a new one...but instead of having them send to Cape Town SA, I just got it delivered locally in the UK where our HQ is. My boss is there at the moment, but will only be coming this way beginning of Dec.



But he has it...and can see and touch it!

So its REAL!



Yeah...putting it in my Xone:22. The cut in at the moment is not that good.
My APC80 does a better job (but is gonna fuck out at some point) due to it being midi...so I could do some settings there to make it cut in better etc.

I have never used a scratch fader in my life...but used TONS of mixers and hated all the Xfaders on em.

We shall see!

I bet it will make me hard....cost enough!

Romelia Stankard
15.11.2011
Originally Posted by MrPopinjay
Headphone jack working?
I'll test it out at lunch in a bit
Dorie Scelzo
15.11.2011
Originally Posted by Xonetacular
Now I want a pair of CDJ-2000s, when will this gear obsession end?
When you realize that they're all just toys.

I'm really not kidding about that
Kiyoko Wellisch
15.11.2011		Headphone jack working?
Romelia Stankard
15.11.2011		it's here!
Judi Sissel
15.11.2011
Originally Posted by Xonetacular
Now I want a pair of CDJ-2000s, when will this gear obsession end?
Start selling kidneys dude! lol
Cliff Lohman
15.11.2011
Originally Posted by sarasin
off topic....but my Innofader Pro has been delivered to my bosses office and its coming first week of Dec!

YAY!



Early XMAS bro!
Ur going to throw it into a xone 22 ya? Lemme know how that works out - would love to hear what u believe of an a+h with this mod.. The 1st person i know who did this on his pioneer says it made a big difference but ive yet to try it out to see what the hype is about.
Romelia Stankard
15.11.2011		Now I want a pair of CDJ-2000s, when will this gear obsession end?
Romelia Stankard
15.11.2011
Originally Posted by sarasin
off topic....but my Innofader Pro has been delivered to my bosses office and its coming first week of Dec!

YAY!



Early XMAS bro!
sweet, that's in a few weeks why the wait though?
Lilliana Perris
15.11.2011		off topic....but my Innofader Pro has been delivered to my bosses office and its coming first week of Dec!

YAY!



Early XMAS bro!
Romelia Stankard
15.11.2011		mmmm my replacement comes today to the office, I'm excited
Dorie Scelzo
12.11.2011
Originally Posted by MrPopinjay
Your avatar would make a pretty cool slip map.
I seriously thought about having some made.

If I ever go back to DVS, I'll probably have it done.
Romelia Stankard
10.11.2011
Originally Posted by Rexx
Hey, did they say what caused the problem?

Mine came in to the shop on Tueday, and I won't be able to try it out until Saturday. Sadly, tomorrow is a holiday and they're not open.

I'm wondering if I should test it out in the shop before I taking it home. I know I'll be checking for fuzz, and the cue gain... but what else should I try testing for?
No idea, mine was just defective....
Larae Knifong
10.11.2011
Originally Posted by Xonetacular
Sweet they received mine today and are shipping out a replacement in a moment, this time I made sure they are sending it to my work and not my apartment so I don't have to run around going crazy trying to find it at the UPS location 40 minutes away.
Hey, did they say what caused the problem?

Mine came in to the shop on Tueday, and I won't be able to try it out until Saturday. Sadly, tomorrow is a holiday and they're not open.

I'm wondering if I should test it out in the shop before I taking it home. I know I'll be checking for fuzz, and the cue gain... but what else should I try testing for?
Romelia Stankard
11.11.2011		Sweet they received mine today and are shipping out a replacement in a moment, this time I made sure they are sending it to my work and not my apartment so I don't have to run around going crazy trying to find it at the UPS location 40 minutes away.
Joeann Ili
10.11.2011		The DB4 sure looks sick
Kiyoko Wellisch
10.11.2011		Your avatar would make a pretty cool slip map.
Dorie Scelzo
10.11.2011
Originally Posted by Xonetacular
very interesting
Yeah. It's fun talking to guys who've had a lot of experience in theatre/venue tech. They actually know the failure rates of stuff like QSC and Crowne amplifiers and specific brands of mixers, mics or cables because they've gotten to them by personal observation.

That's also why people have such strange views of Behringer DJ mixers. Electronically, they're not that bad
Roseanna Signorini
10.11.2011		F**K, now I want a DB4, I only played with it for a min at the DJ Expo in August, because I knew I wasn't buying it and I since I needed a new controller I ended up buying a Xone DX....So now I have A DDM 4000 with a Xone DX and I use the crossfader and sample section of the DDM to control midi functions in Traktor but I could adjust that for a DB4 and those effects....ITS THE EFFECTS DAMN IT...I WANT THEM!!!
Romelia Stankard
09.11.2011
Originally Posted by mostapha
That's kind of the way things go in the audio world, and it has almost nothing to do with the quality of the gear
Dorie Scelzo
09.11.2011
Originally Posted by djproben
Gotta love GAS... What other place can I find a discussion about "convince me NOT to buy something," in which everyone who buys it reports that it was broken when they got it, and yet still nearly everyone reading through this concludes that they have to buy one.
That's kind of the way things go in the audio world, and it has almost nothing to do with the quality of the gear
Danae Dumler
10.11.2011		Gotta love GAS... What other place can I find a discussion about "convince me NOT to buy something," in which everyone who buys it reports that it was broken when they got it, and yet still nearly everyone reading through this concludes that they have to buy one. Somebody should put this in a class on guerrilla marketing.

In other news, my replacement should be arriving this evening so I'll keep ya posted how it goes....
Odis Stirewalt
09.11.2011		wah you are so nasty to me, now i want one too .....

besides the fact that i have to upgrade my two cdj200 at least to cdj850 and want to replace my ecler mixer with an xone92, i have to raise near at 5k
Lilliana Perris
09.11.2011		Fuck....I want the DB4 now.....

*Starts searching local prices...* *GAS is back*
Lilliana Perris
09.11.2011
Originally Posted by HedgeHog
Good point, I'll check it once I'm at home.

I start working for NI next year and will try to Traktor-certify the DJM2000 myself (for myself).
What you gonna be doing there then?
Kiyoko Wellisch
09.11.2011		Yeah, every time I hear someone play a compliment to some bpm detection I just wanna bust out some vicious breakcore with some lovely syncopation.
Philip Degener
09.11.2011
Originally Posted by Xonetacular
the db4 auto bpm detect blows me away- the first reliable bpm counter on a mixer I have encountered. It's cool to just cut seamless autoloops playing vinyl with a button push. and it's not certified...
interested to know if its works well as well on breaks and jungle as it does on techno, house, etc

thx
Rosina Steinkuehler
08.11.2011
Originally Posted by Xonetacular
well I sold the s4 so no controller/mixer and no soundcard. I've got a crappy stanton 2 channel laying around that I cant find the power supply for so I'll probably just not mix for a little while. I could always set up an x1 as a mixer but not really worth bothering I have other stuff to keep me occupied for a week.
Maybe you can pick up a replacement power supply from radio shack in the meantime?
Romelia Stankard
08.11.2011
Originally Posted by mostapha
I guess he can console himself with his other gear, though
Dorie Scelzo
08.11.2011
Originally Posted by photojojo
Originally Posted by MaxOne
Branden Wentler
09.11.2011
Originally Posted by Xonetacular
yeah it's incredible right?

Check out the Fundamental affect, I believe it's a subharmonic bass synthesizer and adds a level of bass one octave below what's playing. Sounds great on subs I can only imagine what it would do live.

Until you hear these effects words can't describe them- they are true pro studio effects.

Traktor's effects are good but they are nothing like this and if you hear them you know they are traktor efx. With the db4 reverbs it doesn't sound like an effect it sounds like you are actually in the environment the reverb is emulating.

try the next door effect on some good monitors/sub and bring it from all wet to dry and see what I mean.
Next door was the first FX I got going on from your earlier post. And yeah it's Fing gorgeous. Sadly I can't play through my monitors until the weekend. My new place is an acoustic evening mare and I need to install some heavy cloth on my walls...and add some carpet. But this is such a clean sounding piece of gear. I'm going to need a few weeks just to get muscle memory down.
nayit ruiz jaramillo
08.11.2011
Originally Posted by HedgeHog
I start working for NI next year and will try to Traktor-certify the DJM2000 myself (for myself).
I admire your optimism but there are people at the heart of NI that dont get anything like that kind of influence.

I wish you luck.
Romelia Stankard
08.11.2011
Originally Posted by space monkey
Just got mine and Xone was spot on regarding the FX. F'ing amazing! I got lost in the verb and delay alone. They way many of the MOD and RES FX are implemented is just beautiful. I don't really know how to express how great they sound.
The only gripe I have is the left-hand FREQ knob is a tad stubborn. Also the BPM counter get's a little messed up on swings and running a loop on Burnski, Robert James - Perception caused a transient to peak through a bit.
Xone, I hope you can get your replacement soon. I understand why you hated to part with it even though it was "broken".
See you guys in a few weeks.
BTW, I prefer ISO to EQ, so smooth.
yeah it's incredible right?

Check out the Fundamental affect, I believe it's a subharmonic bass synthesizer and adds a level of bass one octave below what's playing. Sounds great on subs I can only imagine what it would do live.

Until you hear these effects words can't describe them- they are true pro studio effects.

Traktor's effects are good but they are nothing like this and if you hear them you know they are traktor efx. With the db4 reverbs it doesn't sound like an effect it sounds like you are actually in the environment the reverb is emulating.

try the next door effect on some good monitors/sub and bring it from all wet to dry and see what I mean.
Branden Wentler
08.11.2011		Just got mine and Xone was spot on regarding the FX. F'ing amazing! I got lost in the verb and delay alone. They way many of the MOD and RES FX are implemented is just beautiful. I don't really know how to express how great they sound.
The only gripe I have is the left-hand FREQ knob is a tad stubborn. Also the BPM counter get's a little messed up on swings and running a loop on Burnski, Robert James - Perception caused a transient to peak through a bit.
Xone, I hope you can get your replacement soon. I understand why you hated to part with it even though it was "broken".
See you guys in a few weeks.
BTW, I prefer ISO to EQ, so smooth.
Romelia Stankard
08.11.2011
Originally Posted by MaxOne
Nice.

Yeah I'm just trying to gently wind xone up... purely cause

1) He started a thread asking people to convince him not to buy something

2) He buys the thing he's asked us to convince him not to buy

3) It's faulty

If that was one of my mates he would never hear the end of it
haha, it's cool I am very happy with the outcome of this regardless of the bumps in the road, hopefully the new unit is fine and will be here shortly.
Romelia Stankard
08.11.2011
Originally Posted by kevz718
Does djm2000 allow u to use traktors midi clock? I just got confirmation after months from pioneer yesterday that djm900 does not have this option which seems ridiculous. U can send midi clock but not receive. But since their autobpm detect sucks, its not workable. Crazy how this gets traktor certified...
the db4 auto bpm detect blows me away- the first reliable bpm counter on a mixer I have encountered. It's cool to just cut seamless autoloops playing vinyl with a button push. and it's not certified...

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