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Xone: DB4- the official unofficial thread
Posted on: 18.10.2011 by Romelia Stankard
(former thread title Xone: DB4- convince me not to sell off my possessions and drain my bank account)


I mean it's just a mixer, nothing I should sell my S4 and some other expensive possessions for and drain my bank account completely for... right?

I am having a hard time with this decision. I know it won't make me a better DJ, yet it gives me the urge to make irrational spending decisions. Please talk me out of it.
Leeanna Ayla
08.11.2011		If it didn't cost over $2000 I would be giving him hell to.
Hipolito Scionti
08.11.2011
Originally Posted by mostapha
We're arguing on the internet instead of doing real work. It may not be the place pedantry came from, but the internet is the best home it's had in decades.



Yeah, well
Dorie Scelzo
08.11.2011
Originally Posted by oliosky
I bet you like him.... You pedants seem to flock together.
We're arguing on the internet instead of doing real work. It may not be the place pedantry came from, but the internet is the best home it's had in decades.

Originally Posted by photojojo
I knew when I said that someone would come along and disagree.
Yeah, well
Makkins Clifton
08.11.2011
Originally Posted by kevz718
Does djm2000 allow u to use traktors midi clock? I just got confirmation after months from pioneer yesterday that djm900 does not have this option which seems ridiculous. U can send midi clock but not receive. But since their autobpm detect sucks, its not workable. Crazy how this gets traktor certified...
Good point, I'll check it once I'm at home.

I start working for NI next year and will try to Traktor-certify the DJM2000 myself (for myself).
Cliff Lohman
08.11.2011
Originally Posted by HedgeHog
@Xone: How long will it take to for them to replace it?

This thread is great. I almost felt all the anticipation in here.

While you're at it:
Please convince me to return my DJM2000 and get the DB4! I decided not to get CDJ 2000s because the sucks so there's no need for a Pioneer-mixer anymore.
Does djm2000 allow u to use traktors midi clock? I just got confirmation after months from pioneer yesterday that djm900 does not have this option which seems ridiculous. U can send midi clock but not receive. But since their autobpm detect sucks, its not workable. Crazy how this gets traktor certified...
Leeanna Ayla
08.11.2011
Originally Posted by HedgeHog
Please convince me to return my DJM2000 and get the DB4! I decided not to get CDJ 2000s because the sucks so there's no need for a Pioneer-mixer anymore.
Do it!
Makkins Clifton
08.11.2011		@Xone: How long will it take to for them to replace it?

This thread is great. I almost felt all the anticipation in here.

While you're at it:
Please convince me to return my DJM2000 and get the DB4! I decided not to get CDJ 2000s because they suck so there's no need for a Pioneer-mixer anymore.
Nereida Jasnoch
07.11.2011
Originally Posted by Karlos Santos
What makes you believe that people don't already know that..?
Pretty sure the guys around here know that. They are just discussing technology which is kinda that point of the community , to a degree.

Your point sounds a little condescending to me dude. Yeah..?
Just wanted to awnser the question in the first post, new expensive gear versus what he already has.
I believe nearly every DJ knows what I said, I would just hate to see him spend a huge amount of money because he might regret it later, I know I would really regret it today if I had bought a pioneer set up a few months ago.
Hipolito Scionti
07.11.2011
Originally Posted by Xonetacular
However it is not a reason not to get awesome pieces of technology that make the whole process more fun, enjoyable, reliable, and sound better regardless of whether or not it could be done with other gear.
Lol at reliable surely?! It's faulty.

This whole thread isn't about being a better DJ, it's about gear lust.

Nothing wrong with that but is what it is.

I don't see xonetacular posting loads of links to mixes he has made... Just pics of gear.

But this is a Dj gear dedicated site. So if you can't post and chat about gear here then where can you?
Leeanna Ayla
07.11.2011
Originally Posted by mostapha
This is probably academic, but I disagree with the "undoubtedly" part. Like
Kiyoko Wellisch
07.11.2011		Nonsense! I don't care for rotary mixers at all ;P
Johnetta Olewine
07.11.2011		I bet you like him.... You pedants seem to flock together.
Kiyoko Wellisch
07.11.2011		I like you mostapha, I never would have managed to express that so well.
Dorie Scelzo
07.11.2011
Originally Posted by photojojo
I don't necessarily agree, better tools in the hands of a good DJ will make for better sets. Sure that same DJ would put out a killer set on a $400 mixer, but put a DB4 in his hands and the set would undoubtedly be better. If not what's the point in spending $2500 on a mixer?
This is probably academic, but I disagree with the "undoubtedly" part. Like
Romelia Stankard
07.11.2011		I guess I should return my db4 instead of getting it replaced. I thought if I told the promoters I would be bringing my Xone: DB4 it would pretty much guarantee me a gig.
Kiyoko Wellisch
07.11.2011		I can't tell if you're being serious coldfusion, are you saying 4 CDJ2000s and a DJM2000 will make you a better DJ?
Carlee Pickard
07.11.2011
Originally Posted by MyUsername
Just wanna throw this out there: A DJ makes or breaks the set... Not his or her gear.

#Justsayin'
God damnit, seriously? I just wasted like a TON of money on all this gear and ... that won't make me better? Fuck. Guess I better go return my 4 CDJ2000s and DJM2000.

Originally Posted by photojojo
I don't necessarily agree, better tools in the hands of a good DJ will make for better sets. Sure that same DJ would put out a killer set on a $400 mixer, but put a DB4 in his hands and the set would undoubtedly be better. If not what's the point in spending $2500 on a mixer?
So you can add it in your sig and put pics in "Show Your Setup II" thread and make everyone jealous, duh!
Leeanna Ayla
07.11.2011
Originally Posted by MyUsername
Just wanna throw this out there: A DJ makes or breaks the set... Not his or her gear.

#Justsayin'
I don't necessarily agree, better tools in the hands of a good DJ will make for better sets. Sure that same DJ would put out a killer set on a $400 mixer, but put a DB4 in his hands and the set would undoubtedly be better. If not what's the point in spending $2500 on a mixer?
Romelia Stankard
07.11.2011
Originally Posted by MyUsername
Just wanna throw this out there: A DJ makes or breaks the set... Not his or her gear.

#Justsayin'
We are all well aware that gear doesn't improve skill but gear can make a set by giving tools you just can't do with other stuff- and if you really believe that then by all means have fun with two turntables and a two channel mixer.... However it is not a reason not to get awesome pieces of technology that make the whole process more fun, enjoyable, reliable, and sound better regardless of whether or not it could be done with other gear.

If I really like and am passionate about the gear I'm using then I am more comfortable and mix better and the gear gives inspiration and dictates workflow.
nayit ruiz jaramillo
07.11.2011
Originally Posted by MyUsername
Just wanna throw this out there: A DJ makes or breaks the set... Not his or her gear.

#Justsayin'
What makes you believe that people don't already know that..?
Pretty sure the guys around here know that. They are just discussing technology which is kinda that point of the community , to a degree.

Your point sounds a little condescending to me dude. Yeah..?
Nereida Jasnoch
07.11.2011		Just wanna throw this out there: A DJ makes or breaks the set... Not his or her gear.

#Justsayin'
Romelia Stankard
07.11.2011
Originally Posted by space monkey
I'm checking my tracking info on the hour but I know that the soonest i'll get it is WEd or Thur. lol. I'm such a tool.
It's truly incredible, I hadn't even seen one in person until I got mine. I mixed with it a bit last evening by messing in the menu and setting the booth output to output cue/headphones and plugging my headphones into the booth output.

traktor's effects are toys in comparison. the bpm detection is outstanding and the in line loopers are awesome and way more useful than traktor's autolooping a lot of the time.
Branden Wentler
07.11.2011		I'm checking my tracking info on the hour but I know that the soonest i'll get it is WEd or Thur. lol. I'm such a tool.
Romelia Stankard
07.11.2011		I just dropped it off at UPS to send back to proaudiostar, hopefully this doesn;t take too long

the effects on the db4 are incredible and make some of traktor's effects sound like a joke.

the reverbs and delays are out of this world. I love the nextdoor reverb it sounds exactly like you are standing outside a club then you bring the d/w down and it's like you are walking inside.
Larae Knifong
08.11.2011
Originally Posted by Xonetacular
proaudiostar for $2199 shipped

I was a little annoyed, I got a quote for $2099 shipped new that they said they would honor for 15 days then said A&Hs prices went up and the best they could do was 2299 new and could no longer honor their quote. I got them to offer 2199, it's kind of annoying but still a good price and $100 doesn't mean too much in the scheme of dropping 2k. They only offered 2199 when it was clear I was about to hang up and after being put on hold to talk to whoever was in charge a few times.
I believe you got an awsome deal. They quoted me $2,350 incl shipping to canada. The cheapest I could find in Canada was $2,658. I didn't buy form Proaudiostar becuase they would only give me 30days warranty. After reading forward into your story about the cue gain, I'm glad I didn't. I bought locally for piece of mind. I hope you get your issue fixed. I ordered one too, two weeks ago for $2640. So It'll probably be at the shop next week.
Dorie Scelzo
07.11.2011
Originally Posted by MrPopinjay
You know I'm losing faith in A&H. I've heard rumours of their build quality dropping, tales of the DB4 being dead on arrival my mates brand new xone:42 died in under a year.
That's why I bought the xone:62 I did
Loreta Altema
06.11.2011		I'll still dream for a 4D.. Sucks to hear about your problems!
Alexandra Nerby
06.11.2011		I was in the market for a new 2 channel a month or so ago, and being a A&H fanboy, I immediatly went for the small Xone22. After trying several out, wasn't impressed at all...went with the Ecler. I agree completely that their quality has degraded. Humming noises, clicky sounds when buttons are pressed...
Kiyoko Wellisch
06.11.2011		You know I'm losing faith in A&H. I've heard rumours of their build quality dropping, tales of the DB4 being dead on arrival my mates brand new xone:42 died in under a year.
Romelia Stankard
06.11.2011		I've also just noticed one of the phono preamps doesn't work too. The 1st input is really really quiet and the sound doesn't change when you hit the phono/line switch. Inputs 2 and 3 work fine for phono.
Romelia Stankard
06.11.2011
Originally Posted by kevz718
And my stupid ups guy never rang my apt buzzer but rather went the lazy route and left a note so i had to go to the ups hub that evening to pick itup. I was enraged with ups that afternoon lol
yeah same thing happened here. it was a battle just to get the ups hub to hold it so I could pick it up.
Cliff Lohman
06.11.2011		Got mine thru proaudiostar who just has them drop shipped direct from distributor.. So i dont believe that its anything specific to them. Mine was ok so i believe its just an f'ed up coincidence. Id be a bit pissed too about the wait but proaudiostar is a good place so theyll probably do the best they can to get u a new unit asap if u hassle em just a bit.

Btw, mine was at my door 2 days after i ordered from them using std free shipping.

And my stupid ups guy never rang my apt buzzer but rather went the lazy route and left a note so i had to go to the ups hub that evening to pick itup. I was enraged with ups that afternoon lol
Kristofer Krauel
05.11.2011		Ah mate I feel your pain!! Sexy looking mixer but it sucks balls that it's fucked!! So sorry man!!! Hope you get it sorted.
Kiyoko Wellisch
05.11.2011		What the hell is going on with these things?
Danae Dumler
05.11.2011		Mine was completely DOA when I got it; now I'm worried. Proaudiostar was cool about handling the return though; my new unit should show up next week so we'll see how it goes. Also go to the Allen + Heath website and send a message to support -- they can advise you as to whether there's an easy fix, which is what I was hoping for when I got mine.

Hopefully this is just an unlucky coincidence if they had two bunk units.
Audrey Pinda
06.11.2011		Dude, that sucks.

I'd be completely pissed about that. It's not like it's an inexpensive piece of gear . That mixer costs more than most cars I've owned.
Romelia Stankard
05.11.2011
Originally Posted by space monkey
Uh oh, are all these f'd up units coming from proaudiostar? Mine is getting shipped to the middle east via APO and getting a replacement is going to be a bitch if I need to do so.
yes this was proaudiostar, so was the one that the other guy had bricked yesterday

I'm pretty pissed off this is not what I was expecting.
Alexandra Nerby
05.11.2011		Hmm, I'm not sure...Sorry to hear bud
Branden Wentler
05.11.2011		Uh oh, are all these f'd up units coming from proaudiostar? Mine is getting shipped to the middle east via APO and getting a replacement is going to be a bitch if I need to do so.
Romelia Stankard
05.11.2011
Originally Posted by HighTopFade
You're ok. You have warranty. The process is a hassle though.
yeah, the hassle and wait sucks and ill have no gear for a couple more weeks. what a cock tease.

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