Xone: K2 Thread
Xone: K2 Thread Posted on: 30.09.2011 by Romelia Stankard Wow this looks promissinghttp://www.allen-heath.com/uk/Produc...neK2&SubCatId= So if you link two together with the ethernet cable through USB, will it 'merge' the soundcard so you have a 4 channel soundcard? If it does then you could bring two to a gig, hook them together with ethernet and not need another audio interface and have a 4 channel soundcard. It kind of sucks they put one 1/8" on the front instead of having both outputs in the back. It makes it a little awkward if you wanted to run both outputs to separate channels on the mixer, now you have to run a cable to the front. Also remember you have the option to run each channel in traktor mono so you could use one of them as a 4 channel soundcard with a few adapters (like you would with an audio 2 or 4). Plus a lot of systems are mono anyway. I really like the idea of having one or two of these with a DB2 or DB4 for a home setup then just take them to your gig with a laptop and you have an audio interface to use already in your controller with the house mixer. I love the X1s but I might have to give them up for these, i would love to get my hands on one. | |
| Branden Wentler 02.10.2011 |
Originally Posted by MrPopinjay
Thanks for the quick write up Karlos. I knew waiting the past year or so for a new mixer and gear would ultimately pay off. I never really got comfy with the X1 (hate the vertical knobs and squishy buttons...and convoluted mapping) but nothing else on the market compared. |
| Kiyoko Wellisch 02.10.2011 | Karlos! Do the pots click at 12? |
| nayit ruiz jaramillo 02.10.2011 | You know, me and Rainer went out for dinner on saturday after the show and we were still talking about the K2 and how we would map it. Its captivated us. I spent 60% of the first day at the A&H stand alone. |
| Irwin Ney 02.10.2011 |
Originally Posted by Karlos Santos
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| nayit ruiz jaramillo 02.10.2011 | Okey Dokey... (Brad will do a big review of this) but heres my little blurb after just getting off the train and im tired. The Allen & Heath K2. This was by far the best thing at BPM. I was totally blown away by it, so was Rainer and Brad C. I know the guys at A&H quite well so I got to speak to all of them at length. Build Quality: Amazing, and i mean above and beyond the call... Metal top plate, plastic bottom. The knobs/faders are standard A&H (which means great). The buttons are incredibly receptive and quite flush to the unit so there is no jelly wobble at all. This is A&H first unit with flat boards instead of vertical circuits so they have totally gone back to the drawing board and redesigned everything from fresh. USB powered with 2 Xlink ethernet connections to connect more units (i believe they said 8 altogether, wow). XLink multiple units being used on 2 or 3 laptops and they will sync the midi to all laptops (yeah cool right). Stereo Phono outputs on the rear and minijack headphone out on the front. Allen & Heaths first in house made soundcard. It will be great. The beauty is the Latched Layers of which there are 3. Each has a different colour but you can assign any part of the controller to any layer so when you switch a layer you can keep any part the same as the previous layer and the buttons will stay the same colour as the previous layer so you can see you are using mixed layers. They theres the Shift button which then takes it into another level. Just one of these unit can be used to rock a bar set but use 2 and leave the mixer at home and still have a spare USB for your Midifighter if you wanna look cool (just kidding). The Push Encoders do click but thats fine, id map the bottom 2 to seek position cus im not 100% able to be Jog free. There wont be a non-audio card version. Which is good because at the price point of about |
| Kandy Ahdoot 02.10.2011 | I left my camera in my bag at bpm so did not have it on me |
| Branden Wentler 02.10.2011 | Yeah, where is AGIpro DJ? Lol |
| Irwin Baccei 03.10.2011 |
Originally Posted by MrPopinjay
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| Lisa Lochotzki 03.10.2011 | 4ch.. or 2xStereo Out. So yes one for the Master Out, the other for the CUE/Headphone. a Built-in Audio 2... without the volume control. Go on Allen&Heath Website and download the Preliminary Borchure. it has some setup example. This and 1 (or 2) X1, the most compact 4Deck setup ever |
| Veda Zarella 03.10.2011 | "Xone:K2 has a high quality internal, four channel (2 stereo) soundcard " What does this mean ? Isn't the master output, on the back of the unit, the result of 4 channel outputs togheter ? Can someone explain what the soundcard can and can't do ? Could this serve as a 4 channel mixer (with internal mixing in traktor) ? |
| Kiyoko Wellisch 02.10.2011 | Has anyone seen any videos of it yet? |
| Teresia Janusch 02.10.2011 | 'Xone:K2 is constructed with a strong plastic base and steel front panel employing A&H |
| Joy Rory 02.10.2011 |
Originally Posted by zestoi
Originally Posted by Onimode
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| Leeanna Ayla 02.10.2011 |
Originally Posted by zestoi
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| Kiyoko Wellisch 02.10.2011 | Exactly the same thing except with 2 pairs of RCAs and a traktor LE licence? :P |
| Chasidy Heckenbach 02.10.2011 |
Originally Posted by Onimode
if there was one - it would have to be something pretty special to beat the K2... |
| Kayce Mesia 02.10.2011 |
Originally Posted by MrPopinjay
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| Kiyoko Wellisch 02.10.2011 | Oh yeah, I certainly expect it to be very usable, I just believe people put way too much faith in A&H. NI is also a company with an excellent reputation for quality and this piece of kit is very competitively priced. |
| Chasidy Heckenbach 02.10.2011 |
Originally Posted by MrPopinjay
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| Kiyoko Wellisch 02.10.2011 | I know dude. I was saying that I hope they do click. Read my post and actually be polite, yeah? My money says the quality will be lower than the audio 4. |
| Edwina Fagel 02.10.2011 |
Originally Posted by MrPopinjay
It has nothing to do with the signal withself, its just a physical piece of metal that rubs with the pot shaft. |
| Danae Dumler 02.10.2011 |
Originally Posted by djgringo
2 - 199 GBP (I would type the pounds symbol if I knew how). $240-50 US. 3 - I'm guessing the layer and shift buttons are the only ones you can't map but it's possible those are mappable too. They claim 171 commands across the three layers, for what it's worth. |
| Gilma Marchini 02.10.2011 | 1/8" ruined it for me. Aside from that it's cool, but I'll have to avoid it for now. |
| Celesta Shooks 02.10.2011 | So i have to big questions... Is the audio card really necessary i have an audio 4 an d love the sound quality.. Do u guys believe that it will have as good sound quality or better if possible??? Second questions is: HOW MUCH? i believe thats what i most want to know about!!! thanks guys so excited EDIT: Question 3: are all of the buttons map-able because some of them say layer 1.. layer 2... which seems like its for changing between pages?? thanks |
| Sherilyn Lacinski 02.10.2011 | I believe yall might be believeing of two different types of clicking actions, personally I hate rotary encoders that have indents all the way around, I feel like I have finer control without them.... though I could be wrong, an indent in the middle is nice though for eqs sand filters and such |
| Kiyoko Wellisch 01.10.2011 | Why? What's the advantage? The click signifies a value of zero and with anything other than EQ and filter that would be turned all the way to the left. A click would provide absolutely no benefit since you have no reason to want it in that exact position. I dare say the X1 features it purely for potential remapping reasons. |
| Romelia Stankard 01.10.2011 |
Originally Posted by MrPopinjay
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| Kiyoko Wellisch 01.10.2011 | There are only 2 applications you'd want a clicking pot- EQ and a filter that has both high and low pass. A clicking pot would be retarded for every other application, such as effects params, synth params, volumes, pans, etcetc. 90% of the time I'd be pissed off if a controller I bought has a clicking pot. Still now that I look it does say DJ controller. This does bode well |
| Danae Dumler 01.10.2011 |
Originally Posted by Xonetacular
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| Romelia Stankard 01.10.2011 |
Originally Posted by MrPopinjay
What wouldn't you want a center click for on a DJ controller? I guess you don't need it on traktor's FX but the S4, S2, and X1 still have them and I wouldn't have it any other way. Even the filter resonance knobs on the Xone 4D had center click which was a little odd since I didn't remember them on the 92. |
| Kiyoko Wellisch 01.10.2011 | I just kinda assumed they wouldn't. It seems odd that a piece of gear that is designed to be completely modular would have pots that click since there are very few applications that would suit pots that do so. However, since you say that the 1D etc have pots that click I am a little more optimistic! |
| Romelia Stankard 01.10.2011 |
Originally Posted by muffintop
I highly highly doubt they won't be center click. They were center click on all past xone models and I really doubt it will be any different. Pots that don't have center click suck and rule out any serious mixer controls like EQs or filters, A&H isn't stupid- they will have detents. Also I really don't understand why people are complaining about it having a soundcard, just pretend it's not there. Do you realize that it is the same price as an X1 AND comes with a stand/case that you don't have to spend $40 extra on, and it is allen & heath quality, and it is priced well over a hundred less than the 1D which didn't have a soundcard? If the soundcard wasn't there no one would be complaining about the price if it stayed the same because people wouldn't have it in their head that somehow this could be a better deal than it already is. Just consider it a freebie now you have an Audio 2 DJ with you on the road. |
| Nana Mohs 01.10.2011 |
Originally Posted by zestoi
Non clicking ones seem better for the multi-use angle they are going for |
| Chasidy Heckenbach 01.10.2011 | does it say somewhere that the pots don't click at 12 o'clock? i had just assumed that they would... |
| Celesta Shooks 01.10.2011 |
Originally Posted by MrPopinjay
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| Lang Abriel 01.10.2011 | Its decided....selling my s4 and buying this to use as eq with my maschine...all im missing from the s4 will be jogs and a crossfader....neither is good enough to use anyways. then buy a DVS system along with this for house parties or wait for the vci-400. |
| Kiyoko Wellisch 01.10.2011 | Since I'd most likely be using them as EQs I wish there was a way to make the pots click at 12oclock... |
| Nana Mohs 01.10.2011 |
Originally Posted by zestoi
I want the K2 to ship with blank overlays (please A&H) |
| Chasidy Heckenbach 01.10.2011 |
Originally Posted by Audeo
but yep i do agree... or this and a launchpad to add some more pads or something. i'm definately going to buy one anyway... |
| Venetta Cawyer 01.10.2011 | This device + two midifighters will be the most awesome and portable setup EVER. |
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