Xone: K2 Thread
Xone: K2 Thread Posted on: 30.09.2011 by Romelia Stankard Wow this looks promissinghttp://www.allen-heath.com/uk/Produc...neK2&SubCatId= So if you link two together with the ethernet cable through USB, will it 'merge' the soundcard so you have a 4 channel soundcard? If it does then you could bring two to a gig, hook them together with ethernet and not need another audio interface and have a 4 channel soundcard. It kind of sucks they put one 1/8" on the front instead of having both outputs in the back. It makes it a little awkward if you wanted to run both outputs to separate channels on the mixer, now you have to run a cable to the front. Also remember you have the option to run each channel in traktor mono so you could use one of them as a 4 channel soundcard with a few adapters (like you would with an audio 2 or 4). Plus a lot of systems are mono anyway. I really like the idea of having one or two of these with a DB2 or DB4 for a home setup then just take them to your gig with a laptop and you have an audio interface to use already in your controller with the house mixer. I love the X1s but I might have to give them up for these, i would love to get my hands on one. | |
| May Artman 04.10.2011 | Definitely noticed what you guys are saying about the human side of A&H. Just from the trade show vids the guys explaining stuff seem to have genuine passion and belief that they're delivering a quality product (really noticed this with last year's db4 unveiling videos), while many other companies' marketing is just a guy reading off the same feature list you find on the website. Combining that with my A&H fanboyism gets the hype rolling pretty easily. |
| Emanuel Kepics 04.10.2011 | K2 looks like a cool little unit. Pleased to hear it's built well too. I'll have one without batting an eyelid. |
| nayit ruiz jaramillo 04.10.2011 |
Originally Posted by DJ Rock Well
Talking to the developers is great but when you speak with Mixarchitekt he gives you the low-down from a DJ perspective and that is priceless. Mixarchitek is also a member of the DJTechTools community |
| Kiyoko Wellisch 04.10.2011 |
Originally Posted by DJ Rock Well
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| Asuncion Vongunten 03.10.2011 | "ALLEN & HEATH KILLED IT AT BPM 2011. They made most other stalls superfluous" Know what you mean, all four of us in the car I went up had no need for another midi controller or flash 4 channel mixer but we all went home fondling catalogues and believeing about what to sell on ebay! The DB2 and K2 were just that good... and it always helps that on the A&H stand you meet the actual people who made the stuff they're selling who can answer your questions honestly and accurately - no salesman bull. |
| nayit ruiz jaramillo 03.10.2011 |
Originally Posted by DJ Rock Well
The NI stand was fine, the new S2 and Mikro are cool. All good stuff. ALLEN & HEATH KILLED IT AT BPM 2011. They made most other stalls superfluous. Im quite friendly with a few of the guys at A&H but i have zero affiliation with them so this is a totally unbiased view. |
| Lisa Lochotzki 03.10.2011 | The guy in the video talked about aggragate, but probably for more than 2 unit... who knows?!? The preliminary brochure do not says much... let's hope for an intelligent driver... |
| Leeanna Ayla 03.10.2011 | I didn't believe the audio from one K2 would be able to pass over Xlink. I wonder though how things work if you use two USB ports? |
| Asuncion Vongunten 03.10.2011 | Just for the record, the ones on display at BPM this weekend did not have a centre (12 o'clock) click on the pots. Although I guess they are prototypes and could change before the drop... especially if everyone badgers A&H. Also, if it helps anyone, the guys on the stand said you can power two of these off of one usb cable, joining the two together via the X-Link cable and all that differs is that on the second unit is the audio interface shuts down. Must say that in the metal these units looked even better than in the pics - really solid metal and a decent size with good space between all the controls. Strange to say that of all the stuff at BPM, the two new A&H products may not have been the cheapest but stood out noticeably as the best value for money things I saw. |
| Jillian Wehrkamp 03.10.2011 |
Originally Posted by D.S.M.I.T.
I would almost cut one of my pinky fingers for getting them right now ^^ |
| Danae Dumler 03.10.2011 | At this price I'm sure they will be around at guitar centers. I'll be keeping my X1 but definitely buying one of these. The two together is the perfect mobile rig for internal mixing, mebelieves. I also plan to have a mapping for home use (where I mix externally) and a mapping for internal mixing that will use the K2 as a basic 4channel mixer. Probably have one layer where I duplicate some of the midifighter functions on the bottom button grid including effects and cuepoint juggling. This thing is months from being released but I already can't comprehend how I have gone through life without one. |
| Romelia Stankard 03.10.2011 | I don't see it affecting sales or value of the X1s much at all, as with most allen & heath stuff I believe it is more of a select enthusiast type dj market and most people are still going to want stuff from NI or Pioneer and places like guitar center won't stock the xones. |
| Chasidy Heckenbach 03.10.2011 |
Originally Posted by DJKeyWee
they are kind of different but also kind of not. the X1 has 4 encoders and 4 pots? the K2 has 12 pots, 6 encoders and 4 faders i guess. so close but no cigar... both have buttons by the pots/enc's, and a 4x4 grid (ish) of pads. i can't see why i would go for the X1 over a K2 unless i really just hated faders or something... the X1 is still a really nice bit of kit - and i will be interested to see what happens on the 2nd hand market with them once the K2 comes out. i may well pick up an X1 as well if i can get one cheap enough. |
| Kiyoko Wellisch 03.10.2011 | He did say ableton! And yeah, I don't see why you couldn't use the internal soundcard with that setup. |
| Nedra Fresneda 03.10.2011 | My mapping would depend if i get one or end up grabbing a pair for a tight booth setup. I'd like to have both external and internal mixer versions for more flexibility and making the map adapt better for other people (like my X1 one does). Fun times ahead indeed. A friend already offered to buy my X1 the day before this got announced (at a price a tad higher than i got it ) so looks like things are going in the right direction. Will set up the iPad meanwhile to replace the X1. |
| Veda Zarella 03.10.2011 |
Originally Posted by phazedown
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| Lisa Lochotzki 04.10.2011 | X1 and K2 are 2 different animals, it really depend what you want/need to do. I couldn't get rid of my X1s myself (my soul's inside btw... rofl). |
| Chasidy Heckenbach 04.10.2011 |
Originally Posted by addictive
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| Kalyn Billodeau 03.10.2011 |
Originally Posted by zestoi
Originally Posted by Karlos Santos
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| Romelia Stankard 03.10.2011 |
Originally Posted by Karlos Santos
I am saving for a DB4 now... |
| Jillian Wehrkamp 03.10.2011 | Wow, this must be the best news for me in 2011 !! Proof: Just got a member of this community to join the discussion I just switched from Traktor 2 to Ableton Live (which I was using before for producing only) and compared all availible, sense making units during the last three days (APC40, Launchpad, Korg nano series, Akai LPD8/LPK25/MPK mini). Ordered APC40 + Launchpad for testing this weekend with 30days money back. A few hours ago I found out about the Xone:K2 and couldn't believe my eyes. I fell in love with Xone faders and potis a while ago so this is amazing. Just one idea that came to my mind: This would really cover everything, not less and not more. Am I missing something? And now I don't even have to sell Traktor because there's still everything in control. The questions that came up to me so far: - Would I still need an Interface like NI Audio 2 or can I really use the inbuilt soundcard of one K2 after linking up to the other one and my PC via USB? The master volume control is gone in this case (would create an individual workaround in launchpad for this) but practially possible? - How do the buttons feel like, for those who already had the chance? I suppose they are smooth and made of silicone. Guess I will now stick with launchpad standalone, learning and understanding all function at first until these sweeties are availible in stores. Would be nice to read some comments of convinced Ableton Live users, what are your thoughts about possible setups? |
| Lisa Lochotzki 03.10.2011 | The more I know of this little baby, the more I'm in love, and now, knowing you can also use it to link 2 computer and transfer MIDI clock... it add some icing on the cake. |
| nayit ruiz jaramillo 03.10.2011 |
Originally Posted by addictive
More control over the mixer without using the mixers menus. |
| Irwin Ney 03.10.2011 |
Originally Posted by Karlos Santos
Had to buy another cheaper one... Senns should had done something to keep the adapter always attatched to the headphone cord, it's the only thing I have to say about the headphone hehe |
| Chasidy Heckenbach 03.10.2011 |
Originally Posted by addictive
i guess the possibilities are pretty much endless with the K2 anyway... if not using internal effects or mixing in traktor tho isn't the K2 a bit of a waste? unless it interfaces with the DB4 in some cunning way ofc... |
| Kalyn Billodeau 03.10.2011 | Im gonna use the bottom part similar to the X1's mapping. I have no clue what to use the faders and knobs for though, as I dont use the Traktor effects (only the effects build-in to my DB4). |
| Chasidy Heckenbach 03.10.2011 |
Originally Posted by D.S.M.I.T.
the 4x4 pad area should be fun tho |
| Veda Zarella 03.10.2011 | Has anyone worked out a possible mapping for this controller yet ? I'm curious to see what you guys have in mind |
| nayit ruiz jaramillo 03.10.2011 |
Originally Posted by Xonetacular
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| Romelia Stankard 02.10.2011 |
Originally Posted by NathanWard
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| France Evoniuk 02.10.2011 | I can't wait to find out if the pots click. If they do, I am sold more than I already am. |
| Percy Keehan 02.10.2011 |
Originally Posted by padi_04
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| Nedra Fresneda 02.10.2011 | That's it, I'm getting one. I also agree on the 2 K2 being a sick ableton setup. Karlos, what do you believe of the fader resistance? same as a 1D/2D/3D/4D? |
| Kiyoko Wellisch 02.10.2011 | Power will flow from the laptop into the first K2 and then into the second one via the xlink. At least that's what I've read. |
| Romelia Stankard 02.10.2011 | Karlos you say USB powered, does that mean there is no power transferred over xlink and it will still have to get some power over USB from a hub or something? Because that would totally suck. I remember with the 1Ds if you wanted to use MIDI cables you still had to power them through an AC USB adapter and it was really, really annoying. It would be a huge shame if they couldn't share power. What about aggregating the soundcard through xlink? |
| nayit ruiz jaramillo 02.10.2011 |
Originally Posted by DigitalDevil
Also, be prepared for losing the headphone adapter because even if i take mine off the Senns for 10 minutes to use in the laptop i still end up looking for it for 20 mins *note to self, always put it in the Senns bag*. |
| nayit ruiz jaramillo 02.10.2011 | They reckon in the shops in January. |
| Chasidy Heckenbach 02.10.2011 | thanks for all that info karlos now i just want one even more i will be handing over cash to pre-order just as soon as someone is taking orders... today if possible, even tho i'd have to wait months to actually get it |
| May Artman 02.10.2011 | Thanks for getting a pic of one alongside a DB4 - glad to see they look so nice together. Hype just went up a notch. |
| nayit ruiz jaramillo 02.10.2011 |
Originally Posted by MrPopinjay
(cant believe i didnt make a note of that) fail. |
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