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Posted on: 30.09.2011 by Romelia Stankard
Wow this looks promissing

http://www.allen-heath.com/uk/Produc...neK2&SubCatId=



So if you link two together with the ethernet cable through USB, will it 'merge' the soundcard so you have a 4 channel soundcard?

If it does then you could bring two to a gig, hook them together with ethernet and not need another audio interface and have a 4 channel soundcard. It kind of sucks they put one 1/8" on the front instead of having both outputs in the back. It makes it a little awkward if you wanted to run both outputs to separate channels on the mixer, now you have to run a cable to the front. Also remember you have the option to run each channel in traktor mono so you could use one of them as a 4 channel soundcard with a few adapters (like you would with an audio 2 or 4). Plus a lot of systems are mono anyway.

I really like the idea of having one or two of these with a DB2 or DB4 for a home setup then just take them to your gig with a laptop and you have an audio interface to use already in your controller with the house mixer.

I love the X1s but I might have to give them up for these, i would love to get my hands on one.
Brant Briski
14.10.2011
Originally Posted by zestoi
so there's no way to dynamically assign led color by velocity? i.e: a fixed note (or cc) for a specific pad/led and different velocities to change the color? a real shame if not.

i was hoping to be able to use the latching system (configured via midi?) and also change led colors dynamically...
velocity is not used in the current specification.

with latching layers off, led colours are assigned via midi notes.
for example, a button may receive C-1 = red, C2 = amber, C5 = green, etc. it would transmit C-1 the entire time, yet using modifiers in traktor would extend it's function.

if you are using latching layers, the configuration is done on the hardware itself using setup mode. then relative to which controls you have latching, they will trasmit through midi notes in the octave examples as shown above.

multiple layers and dynamically changing leds would be possible in the non-latched state with the use of modifiers.
Chas Giraldez
14.10.2011
Originally Posted by Bigboibbp
Any word on pricing yet? Or potential price?
someone needs to read through the comments...
Shantae Faile
14.10.2011		Any word on pricing yet? Or potential price?
Chasidy Heckenbach
14.10.2011
Originally Posted by mix architekt
there are two modes to work in - latching layers with multiple implementations of button distribution across the layers, and then a non latching mode where you can freely assign the colours individually to a button via midi notes - you jump 3 octaves for each colour on the same button. from there you can create soft layers via modifiers in a traktor environment for all sorts of options.
so there's no way to dynamically assign led color by velocity? i.e: a fixed note (or cc) for a specific pad/led and different velocities to change the color? a real shame if not.

i was hoping to be able to use the latching system (configured via midi?) and also change led colors dynamically...
Brant Briski
14.10.2011		there are two modes to work in - latching layers with multiple implementations of button distribution across the layers, and then a non latching mode where you can freely assign the colours individually to a button via midi notes - you jump 3 octaves for each colour on the same button. from there you can create soft layers via modifiers in a traktor environment for all sorts of options.
Nedra Fresneda
12.10.2011		Best scenario would be to let the user assign the color freely via note velocity and have the layer button change accordingly to the active one.

I believe I read somewhere that the color was indeed tied to velocity, but I might be wrong.
Chasidy Heckenbach
12.10.2011
Originally Posted by Pollux#13
they will as im told that in future updates as im told by tim(Mix Architekt)

'they're quite functional, there's so much more to them than most people expect.
the latching mode stuff is quite nuts, especially being able to keep bits set on a single set of midi notes, then move through the buttons on 3 layers...'- quoted by Mix Architekt

'it's 3 layers of midi notes too, so you're not loosing midi channels
there is a debate as to if it should have a midi shift function that drops it down a channel, but not sure where that is going to end up for production. most things can be updated via firmware..'.- quoted by Mix Architekt
even "having" a shift button is cool... instead of needing to find some button that doesnt get used to much to map as a shift.

i'm still not too keen on the midi implementation. i'd like to be able to send different velocities to change a button color, but i can sort of see why they've done it that way. it's restrictive tho - forcing button color to be tied to the layer. unless i read the midi info wrong - will recheck sometime.
Yajaira Hibbitts
12.10.2011
Originally Posted by zestoi
shame tho - i thought maybe i had missed them announcing a "K2 Super" or something
they will as im told that in future updates as im told by tim(Mix Architekt)

'they're quite functional, there's so much more to them than most people expect.
the latching mode stuff is quite nuts, especially being able to keep bits set on a single set of midi notes, then move through the buttons on 3 layers...'- quoted by Mix Architekt

'it's 3 layers of midi notes too, so you're not loosing midi channels
there is a debate as to if it should have a midi shift function that drops it down a channel, but not sure where that is going to end up for production. most things can be updated via firmware..'.- quoted by Mix Architekt
Chasidy Heckenbach
12.10.2011
Originally Posted by Pollux#13
kekekekekekeke ive got a bad habit of having shorthand typings and typos, it aint your fault kekekekekekeke
shame tho - i thought maybe i had missed them announcing a "K2 Super" or something
Yajaira Hibbitts
12.10.2011
Originally Posted by zestoi
obviously forgot to remove my "stupid hat". i'll get my coat...

kekekekekekeke ive got a bad habit of having shorthand typings and typos, it aint your fault kekekekekekeke
Chasidy Heckenbach
12.10.2011
Originally Posted by Pollux#13
wahahahahahahahahahahaha more than one k2 like maybe two k2 therefore k2s
obviously forgot to remove my "stupid hat". i'll get my coat...
Yajaira Hibbitts
12.10.2011
Originally Posted by zestoi
the k2 is actually called a k2s or it's some different version? guess i missed something

wahahahahahahahahahahaha more than one k2 like maybe two k2 therefore k2s
Chasidy Heckenbach
12.10.2011
Originally Posted by Pollux#13
another reason for me to get the k2s
the k2 is actually called a k2s or it's some different version? guess i missed something
Evelyn Navarijo
12.10.2011		The soundcard makes this very interesting as a replacement for my Mixtrack Pro. At the moment, I have two TTs a crappy Numark Mixer, a Mixtrack and an X1, and I can't for the life of me fit everything on one table, sticking the K2 between the mixer and a turntable and use it to control traktor (timecode is not really an option since I want to play vinyl on the TTs). Or I'll just replace the mixer altogether with a Denon MC-6000
Yajaira Hibbitts
12.10.2011
Originally Posted by RainerHaselier
yes, all outputs are available, but audio is not send via X:LINK (MIDI and power only)
you need to use audio aggregation on mac to transform the 2 K2s into a 8 channel audio interface

another reason for me to get the k2s
Kandra Fagler
13.10.2011
Originally Posted by RainerHaselier
yes, all outputs are available, but audio is not send via X:LINK (MIDI and power only)
you need to use audio aggregation on mac to transform the 2 K2s into a 8 channel audio interface
oh wow - this is just so cool!

thanks for that rainer
Bethel Himmelein
12.10.2011		yes, all outputs are available, but audio is not send via X:LINK (MIDI and power only)
you need to use audio aggregation on mac to transform the 2 K2s into a 8 channel audio interface
Kandra Fagler
12.10.2011		sorry if this has been answered before but im just curious:

if we connect two xone k2 via xlink, is the other set of outputs available? therefore making it a 2 stereo output + 2 stereo output? or is just the first unit will be available?
Bethel Himmelein
12.10.2011		You already have the Soft Shift button now, in fact doubling the mapping capabilities
Yajaira Hibbitts
12.10.2011		what im told at the moment is that currently there are only three midi layers and that there would be up to 6 or 9 layers in the future for the k2
Bethel Himmelein
12.10.2011
Originally Posted by Pollux#13
Mix Architekt is an awesome fella
I totally agree. And this is true for the whole Xone Division of Allen&Heath.
Yajaira Hibbitts
12.10.2011
Originally Posted by Karlos Santos
I tell ya that dude Mixarchitekt is one cool cat.
Mix Architekt is an awesome fella
Bethel Himmelein
12.10.2011		Yes, maybe some new info in the K2 review by Karlos and me

http://traktorbible.com/articles/clo...n-xone-k2.aspx
France Evoniuk
10.10.2011		Bumping, any new info from anywhere?
nayit ruiz jaramillo
06.10.2011		I tell ya that dude Mixarchitekt is one cool cat.
Romelia Stankard
06.10.2011		http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wnJpI...el_video_title
Bethel Himmelein
06.10.2011
Originally Posted by Zster
the endless encoders at the top as loop knobs like the X1 (assuming i can push those as well)
Yes, they are push encoders like on the Xone:1D
Lilliana Perris
06.10.2011		Forreal Karlos, that does sound good!
Emanuel Kepics
06.10.2011		K2 looks to be something pretty special all round. C'mon January ....
Leeanna Ayla
06.10.2011
Originally Posted by Karlos Santos
I doubt id get too clever with a lot of layers but just the ability to switch one section of the controller to another usage is damn cool.
That changing layers in separate sections is something special.
nayit ruiz jaramillo
06.10.2011
Originally Posted by MrPopinjay
Eh I really dislike soft takeover... I doubt I'll be having layers on my faders and pots
Yeah i believe that might right, but i believe the beauty is having maybe just one section change on another layer.
I get easily confused with multifunction buttons but the fact that i could have the Buttons change from Transport to Midifighter mode and the buttons wil display the change via colour is pretty cool and my little brain will cope with that.

I doubt id get too clever with a lot of layers but just the ability to switch one section of the controller to another usage is damn cool.
Lilliana Perris
06.10.2011
Originally Posted by MrPopinjay
Eh I really dislike soft takeover... I doubt I'll be having layers on my faders and pots
Agreed!

I don;t want to have to believe about what is where and in what state it is.

I want to see it at a glance....

The Soft-takeover just messes with me!
Hazel Oeschger
06.10.2011		I can't say I'm not tempted by 2 of these and a xone mixer, either 42 or DB:2. Love the idea that I just take out the K2's to a gig and plug it to the mixer available at the scene.

Mappingwise, too much to hassle with in 3 layers, 1 is enough. I'll propably go with a very basic mapping since I don't play around too much with fx. Just in for the mixes and selection.
Rebbecca Fennell
05.10.2011		dont give a shit about the layers, just seems like a perfect choice for mixing in ableton.
2 of these and a launchpad and ill be set for a music writing setup. i was getting sick of soft take over and was really tossing around the idea of buying a motu soundcard and a decent 16 channel mixer but this will be much more compact, easier to setup. i hated how for midi stuff you were stuck with the choices of either a.) hacking together a bunch of cheap shit together or using a non dedicated surface; b.) getting some big ass desk console like a digidesign which even for a "dedicated surface" still requires you to page thru assigned values on a rotary to change panning, eq, etc...
Kiyoko Wellisch
05.10.2011		Eh I really dislike soft takeover... I doubt I'll be having layers on my faders and pots
Sherilyn Lacinski
05.10.2011		oh damn I've never used that before I'll have to look into it ; )

soft takeover built into the firmware... is that an industry first? either way thats a nice feature, especially on a budget controller
Lisa Lochotzki
05.10.2011		I guess that's what he meant by "ASIO for ya!"

However Virtual Cables 4 is a better option... and latency... just sayin
Kiyoko Wellisch
05.10.2011
Originally Posted by ectoplasm
oh man this keeps looking better and better! I love the latching layers function and the build looks like what I've come to expect from A&H

I'm bummed you can't agregate sound cards in windows : / but hey thats ASIO for ya!
You can with ASIO4all dude.
Chasidy Heckenbach
05.10.2011
Originally Posted by ectoplasm
oh man this keeps looking better and better! I love the latching layers function and the build looks like what I've come to expect from A&H

I'm bummed you can't agregate sound cards in windows : / but hey thats ASIO for ya!
u probably can if u use asio and connect each via usb?
Sherilyn Lacinski
05.10.2011		oh man this keeps looking better and better! I love the latching layers function and the build looks like what I've come to expect from A&H

I'm bummed you can't agregate sound cards in windows : / but hey thats ASIO for ya!

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