Xone: DB4- the official unofficial thread

New DB4 driver was released that supposedly fixes the USB 3.0 problems (on Mac). You can download it from the A&H support site.

For Djs to stop flooding their sets with FX and learn to mix and or add something more dynamic to their set?

Again the only thing that interests me is the ISO eq.. but ive been living without that for years

I don't really mix anymore. I work in the Middle East with live instruments, that I play. I play arabic electro (if I can attempt to categorize it). I use my gear like a one man band. Almost everything is improvised. I say almost because I also use clips in Ableton to create the music. I use the DB4 like a central hub to keep the instruments and lighting synchronized. Truthfully, I don't use the FX on it much as I'm still learning them. I lack the confidence to use them on stage.

Before the DB4, I used the 92 in my rig, of course I had to add an FX unit, sound card, and 2 midi controllers. My sets haven't changed much.

I'm hoping to have something new manifest itself while I'm at home on hiatus for Easter. I really need to sit alone with the DB4. It's so hard to find the time.

The 92 is great! The clubs in my small town still use it. Even the DJM800. My audiophile friends love the 92 also.

Rent the 92 for the week, or go the the shop everyday, and see if you like it.

The DB4 is not necessary and it's not the holy grail, but when I look at it, I still get excited. And that's after 2 years of owning it.

I don' t get what's so great about the DB4...

^{Please don't hit me}

I don't really mix anymore. I work in the Middle East with live instruments, that I play. I play arabic electro (if I can attempt to categorize it). I use my gear like a one man band. Almost everything is improvised. I say almost because I also use clips in Ableton to create the music. I use the DB4 like a central hub to keep the instruments and lighting synchronized.

Andy C also uses the DB4, Traktor and vinyl now. There's a few videos floating around of him talking about it.

I have both. I would suggest going to hear them in person. Nothing beats hearing for yourself, but I'm going to try to describe them for you. I bought the DB4 when it first came out, to upgrade my 92. The filters were a little lacking that fine fine adjustment compared to the 92. Since the upgrade on the DB4, I find that they intensified the resonance, which I love. You can get that fine adjustment on the DB4 using the EQs. There's a learing curve, though to get the machine to do what you want. There's just so much to discover when shaping your sounds on the DB4. I use both the mixers when the occassion calls for it, but mostly the DB4...since everything is digital these days. I love my 92 with vinyls. Although with the new firmware on the DB4 - it gave me a new ear on my vinyls, almost like I was listening to a brand new track when using the Infrabass. The bass just punches me in the gut and hits me in the heart.

In my opinion, the 92 will get you just so far, it's for bare bones mixing... but the DB4 will let you go beyond and grow with you... until another piece of gear comes along.

The 92 does not have parametric EQ.

Serious when I ask... but can you elaborate? What is the db4 offering me over one of the club and touring standards for years "for basic mixing" other than a crap ton of effects? (I feel a ton of sets are just effect laden showcases now a days as is)

Ive been researching to see if the db4 would be a better option, but after reading the little hitches in how it does its routing and inputs, the 92 still seems better suited to my needs of 4 decks and 2 separate channels for maschine and ableton clips. No flipping no switching, 4 band eqs.

I believe im trying to find someone to convince me lol. But honestly, I guess Im not seeing the complete draw to the system yet.

So much damn information on this thread! After hours and hours of researching I am left with 2 mixers.
The DB4 & the Xone 92.
I have one burning question that I can't find answered on any community .
How do the filters on the DB4 compare to that of the analogue 92?

Any input would be greatly appreciated!

Thanks for the info guys. I'm currently running an SL1 with plans to upgrade to an SL4 or A10. Am I right in assuming you would have to choose either DVS or vinyl with the SL1 as there's only 2 RCAs per channel?

Input limitations?

You can have 4 line or 4 phono (or any combination in between, albeit 2 phono ins are software controlled), 4 digital ins, and 4 Stereo USB ins. I generally find that 12 decks are a little much for me. I mean, okay, you can only really mix 4 decks at a time, but you can connect 12 sources if you want.

Actually, I forgot, you also have an extra line input on the mic channel, so you could in theory have 4 1200's, 5 CDJ's and 4 Traktor decks hooked up at the same time.

So on the SL4 you can switch between real vinyl and serato just like you can with the A10 and Traktor? Is it a direct through (bypassing the computer)? hmmm I did not know this; the input limitations on the DB4 is my one major complaint with this mixer TBH.