The NI Traktor X1 MK2 Thread
The NI Traktor X1 MK2 Thread Posted on: 12.06.2013 by Jack Narva With news of the new NI Z1 I was looking at online retailers and came across this at one of themhttp://www.pssl.com/Computer-DJ/Nati...-DJ-Controller Looks good. I have not seen it announced anywhere so it looks like someone jumped the gun. | |
| nayit ruiz jaramillo 09.07.2013 |
Originally Posted by DarioJ
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| Judi Sissel 10.07.2013 |
Originally Posted by Karlos Santos
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| Hipolito Scionti 10.07.2013 |
Originally Posted by Karlos Santos
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| Annalisa Shogren 09.07.2013 | X1 MK1 4 LIFE. Number 1 for a reason! No glossy finger print magnets. |
| Emelina Chillson 09.07.2013 | Looks like imma be selling my x1 mk1 soon. |
| nayit ruiz jaramillo 09.07.2013 | Another retailer jumping the gun. |
| Hipolito Scionti 09.07.2013 | yup official http://www.westenddj.co.uk/Product/N...ONTROL-X1-MK2/ |
| Ellyn Zbranek 09.07.2013 | It's official: http://blog.turntablelab.com/prince-...ontrol-x1-mk2/ |
| Kellie Myrum 09.07.2013 | Could CMD DV-1 affect the X1 price drop? I'm not expecting MKII to show up available in this year... |
| Hipolito Scionti 09.07.2013 |
Originally Posted by mdcdesign
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| Doreen Schurle 09.07.2013 |
Originally Posted by padi_04
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| Nedra Fresneda 09.07.2013 | |
| Hipolito Scionti 09.07.2013 | X1 price slash (down to |
| Nevada Edgette 06.07.2013 |
Originally Posted by botstein
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| Ervin Calvery 01.07.2013 | http://turntablelab.com/collections/...kontrol-x1-mk2 |
| Ninfa Mazariegos 19.06.2013 | Those buttons would normally be tempo, bend, cue, key and tap. The strips could control tempo and bend, but you would still need a modifier if you are going to use both on more than one deck. The lack of the hotcue button makes me believe that there is much less functionality or much more than is displayable by label, hence the rgb feedback. Sorry if the conversation sounds weird, I'm an incredibly slow typer and I'm reading your reply's after I post. That, and I live on a farm in bfe and have dialup internet. That, and I've been slamming a few back during this convo.. What were we talking about? Oh yeah, I meant to say "hotcue button labels" But yeah, I believe the color feedback is meant to replace labels and the "hotcue" button...or supply less features that require you to buy more ni hardare! lol |
| Kellie Myrum 19.06.2013 | The first two rows are hotcues and secondary function should obviously be a cue delete which should be something not necessary to be marked in layer. Assuming that the bottom row looks like it's supposed to just trigger cue and play without secondary state function. |
| Ninfa Mazariegos 19.06.2013 |
Originally Posted by Stewe
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| Emelina Chillson 19.06.2013 | Yall are fun to watch speculating on this thing. |
| Ninfa Mazariegos 19.06.2013 | Maybe not for flux mode, but I can guarantee that there will be new mapping features. I believe that the rgb feedback is there to display hot cue state, whether they are loops, cues or mix in/out points. I also suspect the possibility of using those led's for channel and master gain feedback. |
| Kellie Myrum 19.06.2013 | From the LED color feedback that's obviously a single strip with sync phase indicator. Still, that doesn't answer my question though. |
| Ninfa Mazariegos 19.06.2013 | Well, with the inner part of the led's being a different color in the center and the two center lines I would have to put my money on it being two independent control surfaces. Maybe with it being a single large strip, one could use it as both with a single modifier. You would be able to use them to search through a track without a shift function while a track is playing, or possibly control fx in an xy fashion. Maybe they are taking the macro fx or flux mode to a new level? |
| Kellie Myrum 19.06.2013 | Which buttons do you refer to? |
| Ninfa Mazariegos 19.06.2013 |
Originally Posted by beisi
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| Valeri Millstein 19.06.2013 |
Originally Posted by Stewe
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| Kellie Myrum 19.06.2013 |
Originally Posted by djfunke
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| Ninfa Mazariegos 19.06.2013 | I actually prefer a jog wheel and button than an x1's encoder for searching through tracks because I can cover a much greater distance in a large folder than furiously spinning the encoder. A touch strip may solve that problem as well, but a jog controller is best for track search. As I mentioned, a jog controller would allow someone who normally plays dvs or beatmatches the ability to use a modular setup in a cramped booth and use the better analog mixer or mixer of choice while still being able to beat match manually. With the rapid pace that ni has switched from a software company to a hardware based one, and the rate that they are pumping out new hardware, it would be foolish to believe that there aren't employees somewhere in the back jamming out on single deck jog and pitchfader controllers. |
| Alphonso Deitchman 19.06.2013 | It might be a standard MIDI controller this time in order to be class compliant? |
| Kellie Myrum 19.06.2013 | Just curious if NI have fixed the soft takeover pot issue while switching to MIDI mode and back |
| Maile Dekerlegand 19.06.2013 |
Originally Posted by djfunke
unless it is divided in two (and if so then the whole strip gets a lot smaller...) then what are you controlling and how to switch between functions using twitch as an example there are easily four key functions for only one strip, and not out of the realm of possiblity six: -deck A scratch/scrub -deck B scratch/scrub -deck A pitch bend -deck B pitch bend -deck A needle drop -deck B needle drop some have mentioned the cue buttons are not labelled for shift functions due to expected demand for individual user configurability... so then, what is is the standard use case they have designed here? are all touch strip interactions to be done while holding a button activating a modifier? sorta like how maschine mk2 works now with big encoder? |
| Ninfa Mazariegos 19.06.2013 | So essentially, I believe the problem being solved by adding a touch strip is being able to search through a song like one would with vinyl, but also being able to start the needle at the beginning of the record as well as use hot cues without absolute mode turning off. It also provides another control element for fx than just knobs or buttons if you primarily beat grid and sync. I use the lower two encoders for loop size and the upper left one to scroll through music folders and open folders by pushing it. Then I use the upper right encoder to enlarge the track list and search through tracks as I mentioned earlier. I would give up being able to scroll through folders if it meant I could cue up a record faster. |
| Ninfa Mazariegos 19.06.2013 | I see the touch strip as a was to scroll through the track to get yourself in the ballpark, and then be able to cue up with the record, instead of using absolute mode. I use two buttons for that, but a touch strip would be a nice replacement. How i usually play is- after a transition, Ill stop the time code record, put the needle at the beginning of the record, Hit the top right encoder on the x1 to enlarge the track list, turn it to scroll through tracks, hit one of the four "FX" buttons to load the song into a deck, use the "in" and "out" buttons to scroll through the song, cue up my spot with the record, hit play on the turntable, then release the record and beat match from there. |
| Ninfa Mazariegos 19.06.2013 | So are there two touch strips or just one? I could see a touch strip replacing a pitch fader or jog wheel, but not both at the same time. I can beat match faster using the small, non touch sensitive jogs and short pitch faders on my hercules steel than I can with my technics, and the jogs on it are only two thirds the width of the x1. I could care less if jog wheels are scratchable. If I wanted to scratch, I would bring one turntable and just swap deck control. I'm part of a two man dj team and we play back and forth for 4-8 hours at a time at our residency, open format. Usually he plays a few songs, then I play a few songs. Or I'll scratch or play loops while he's playing, so I NEED a fast and efficient way to beat match by ear, and I don't see touch strips doing that for me. |
| Emelina Chillson 19.06.2013 | I dig the touch strip. There are already plenty of low cost portable jog wheel solutions such as the pl1, contour, dnsc, etc. The contour interface edition if you dont have an interface. Really if you had a z1, x1 mk2, and a contour ce, youd have a pretty decent setup to control 4 decks for under 600 |
| Ervin Calvery 19.06.2013 | It can't be just me... An X1 with a platter would not make sense because it complements setups which themselves have platters (turntables, CDJs, etc). "TRAKTOR KONTROL X1 provides DJs of all styles and genres with a highly efficient and intuitive way to control loop, cue, effect, track selection and transport functions of their system. The unit accommodates the two most common digital DJing paradigms - it ideally complements a typical timecode-controlled TRAKTOR SCRATCH setup consisting of a hardware mixer, turntables or CD decks, and also excels as a self- contained controller for DJs who play beat-gridded tracks with the TRAKTOR software and mix externally. Two X1 units can also easily be combined into a four-deck setup that controls all decks and effect units of TRAKTOR PRO or TRAKTOR SCRATCH PRO simultaneously." This is from this press release: http://www.native-instruments.com/fi...Kontrol_X1.zip I also believe that a platter that could fit in what I'll call the "1" form factor that the X1, F1, and Z1 share, even if it were double-wide, would not be useful - certainly not for scratching. |
| Kristofer Krauel 19.06.2013 |
Originally Posted by MaxOne
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| Hipolito Scionti 19.06.2013 | Only thing is they've tried to resolve the platter less ness of the x1 mki with a touch strip on the mkii... Makes me believe they won't bring out a platter controller. |
| Kristofer Krauel 19.06.2013 |
Originally Posted by djfunke
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| Ninfa Mazariegos 19.06.2013 | I believe that with ni's z1 and z2, it would be silly not to have a jog and pitchfader controller. I use an x1 and midi fighter spectra along side my turntables/mixer, and with both of those it still isn't enough to reasonably control two track decks and two remix decks. A jog controller with a decent set of knobs would be perfect with the midi fighter for controlling two remix decks and mixing between track decks. Especially good for when you normally play dvs and there isn't enough room for turntables in the booth. You will always need an analog mixer when more than one dj is playing, so if you can use the available mixer along with an x1, midifighter 3d/spectra, and knoby jog controller, you can easily have full control over two decks and two remix decks while using a footprint the size of an all in one controller. |
| Nedra Fresneda 18.06.2013 | Even better, deck (side) independent layers |
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