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Posted on: 12.06.2013 by Jack Narva
With news of the new NI Z1 I was looking at online retailers and came across this at one of them

http://www.pssl.com/Computer-DJ/Nati...-DJ-Controller

Looks good.

I have not seen it announced anywhere so it looks like someone jumped the gun.
Hipolito Scionti
13.08.2013		100% x1 mk2 only works on 2.6.3

update and enjoy
Candy Vardy
13.08.2013		Ok cool, I'll run my updates and see. Thanks.
Delena Katherman
13.08.2013
Originally Posted by Dustin V
I don't believe I need drivers? Well I'm still running on 2.6.1. Could that be a reason? Cos I'm not running the latest update?
Only works on 2.6.3. The new X1 didn't exist when 2.6.1 came out. Update and everything will work perfectly.
Candy Vardy
13.08.2013		I don't believe I need drivers? Well I'm still running on 2.6.1. Could that be a reason? Cos I'm not running the latest update?
Alphonso Deitchman
13.08.2013		Installed the drivers?
Candy Vardy
13.08.2013		Ok guys I need some help here. I opened up Traktor, plugged in my new X1, it flashed showing it was connected and then nothing. Traktor does not recognize the X1. Any reasons why? I thought that Traktor would automatically see the X1?

Am I doing something wrong?
Candy Vardy
13.08.2013		Got mine today! I still need to plug it in and have a little play with it.

I must say though that I really like the new kontrol stand. It looks like a quality built stand. I also like that they threw in a neat bag to put your kontrol stand in. Impressed.
Madison Luvisi
13.08.2013		Just received mine yesterday wow its a lot of fun , one question though does the $50 e-voucher take a few days to come to your email after registering your hardware ?.
Yuonne Losure
12.08.2013
Originally Posted by firebr4nd
Why is that a deal killer? You don't match pitches EXACTLY with turntables, and people have been beat matching on those for quite a long time. Hell, I don't match exactly when using CDjs either. That's what pitch bend is for.
I do a lot of the time, on both 1200s and CDJs. As long as I have time I lock in the pitch to the point where I can do a 2 minute blend without having to touch to the decks. I'm not perfect 100% of the time, but pretty close.
Hipolito Scionti
11.08.2013
Originally Posted by makar1
Tried changing Tempo Range in Transport Settings? Also does the Mk2 not have a completely viewable+adjustable mapping like the Mk1 does?
Will try that when I get a chance, cheers

It seems to work out the box with no mapping or rather the mapping is blank.

Just at a glance it looks like you can add mappings of your own individually then over ride the factory settings for thatt command but not a full list of mapings a la the mk1.

I havent had a chance to try it yet was seeing if anyone else mapped it yet.
Candy Vardy
11.08.2013		Can't wait till i get mine in a cpl of days!
Ulysses Vittetoe
11.08.2013
Originally Posted by djjohnr
That's a deal killer
Why is that a deal killer? You don't match pitches EXACTLY with turntables, and people have been beat matching on those for quite a long time. Hell, I don't match exactly when using CDjs either. That's what pitch bend is for.
Alphonso Deitchman
11.08.2013
Originally Posted by MaxOne
I cant see how to change the resolution of the fine pitch adjustments when pressing sync + loop encoder... it does it it increments of 0.10 but i'd like it finer i believe... at least 0.05.

Any ideas? do you map it and then check the box override factory mapping?

btw x1 mkii is dope tho
Tried changing Tempo Range in Transport Settings? Also does the Mk2 not have a completely viewable+adjustable mapping like the Mk1 does?
Hipolito Scionti
11.08.2013		I cant see how to change the resolution of the fine pitch adjustments when pressing sync + loop encoder... it does it it increments of 0.10 but i'd like it finer i believe... at least 0.05.

Any ideas? do you map it and then check the box override factory mapping?

btw x1 mkii is dope tho
Ming Devis
11.08.2013
Originally Posted by immon
I road tested the new X1 last evening and was able to manually beatmatch no problem. We were playing back 2 back with another Dj on a different laptop & controller. I simply got the bpm near enough (i.e not exact) and kept nudging with the touchstrips to keep in time. Its good enough for me.
Yep and if you can't get the track exactly in time with a record you can just pitch down or up a touch on the 1200 or cdj. It will definitely make transitions easier for the guys just using a controller setup.
Elias Knapp
11.08.2013		I road tested the new X1 last evening and was able to manually beatmatch no problem. We were playing back 2 back with another Dj on a different laptop & controller. I simply got the bpm near enough (i.e not exact) and kept nudging with the touchstrips to keep in time. Its good enough for me.
Yuonne Losure
07.08.2013
Originally Posted by kooper1980
If thats a deal killer then the X1 is never going to be suitable for you. Although im almost certain you would be able to adjust the settings for a finer adjustment.
The problem is when you go finer with a rotary encoder it gets much harder to make large movements. I'm very surprised NI didn't implement something similar to the SCS.3Ds where the touch strips act differently depending on how fast you move your finger, considering they fully support them. They seem to firmly believe that everyone should just convert to working in the box, all the time. Oh well.
Madison Luvisi
07.08.2013		Hey guys how long does it take for back orders to be processed or for NI to get them in stock roughly ?
Kristofer Krauel
07.08.2013
Originally Posted by djjohnr
That's a deal killer
If thats a deal killer then the X1 is never going to be suitable for you. Although im almost certain you would be able to adjust the settings for a finer adjustment.
Delena Katherman
06.08.2013		You know, it would be awesome if you could reverse the default function of the loop encoder. Then, turning the encoder would change BPM, and Sync + Encoder would change loop length. I would much rather have to hold an extra button for loop length.
Yuonne Losure
06.08.2013
Originally Posted by jdownesbaird
Also, the knob changes the BPM in distinct (somewhat large) increments, meaning you might never be able to get the exact BPM you want (although maybe this can be changed in settings).
That's a deal killer
Delena Katherman
06.08.2013		It's not much of a "process", but pressing and holding sync with one hand then turning the loop encoder knob with the other isn't as efficient or precise as moving a pitch fader. Also, the knob changes the BPM in distinct (somewhat large) increments, meaning you might never be able to get the exact BPM you want (although maybe this can be changed in settings).
Ulysses Vittetoe
06.08.2013
Originally Posted by jdownesbaird
I use a vinyl/DVS combo setup and just got the new X1. I've been beatmatching the remix decks to whatever vinyl record is playing using the touch strip for nudge and the SYNC+LOOP ENCODER for tempo change. It's definitely possible, but not very elegant. I actually like the touchstrip for nudging now that I've gotten used to its sensitivity.
What do you mean by elegant? Doesn't seem like much of a process to adjust a tempo with the encoder and then nudge it in with the strip.
Kellie Myrum
06.08.2013
Originally Posted by jdownesbaird
As far as resolution, you can actually quickly switch between a split touch strip (left half and right half control separate decks) to using the whole strip for a single deck.
Isn't that what I said? Makes me believe that in multi deck mode the X1 sent two mapping events.
Delena Katherman
06.08.2013		The DJ tips video is mistaken. He actually corrects himself at digitaldjtips.com in the written review (he made the video before NI sent the manual). Tempo change is easily done by pressing SYNC+LOOP ENCODER (and the current BPM will actually display right on the X1.

As far as resolution, you can actually quickly switch between a split touch strip (left half and right half control separate decks) to using the whole strip for a single deck. To assign an effect to the touch strip, you just push and hold an effect button then tap the touch strip. It's pretty cool.
Kellie Myrum
06.08.2013
Originally Posted by guiltyblade
In the DJ tips video it says you can't change the bpm at all? Is that true? That kinda sucks.
Someone could edit mapping for that functionality.

(Shift + push to activate, touch enter BPM mode, turn strip in to Tempo adjust in relative mode, use encoder to fine adjustment, Shift + push to go back to looping)

Can anybody say more about touch strip? Is resolution pretty good?

Also about the firmware. Does it have multiple CC capabilities for controlling pitch for both decks at a time? (could be a mapping trick too)
Alla Bluemke
06.08.2013		In the DJ tips video it says you can't change the bpm at all? Is that true? That kinda sucks.
Delena Katherman
06.08.2013		I use a vinyl/DVS combo setup and just got the new X1. I've been beatmatching the remix decks to whatever vinyl record is playing using the touch strip for nudge and the SYNC+LOOP ENCODER for tempo change. It's definitely possible, but not very elegant. I actually like the touchstrip for nudging now that I've gotten used to its sensitivity.
Hipolito Scionti
06.08.2013
Originally Posted by djjohnr
Anyone out there done much manual beat matching yet? Useable? I go back and forth between vinyl and digital in my sets, so this is pretty important.
This. I wanna see someone manual beatmatch on one ?
Yuonne Losure
06.08.2013		Anyone out there done much manual beat matching yet? Useable? I go back and forth between vinyl and digital in my sets, so this is pretty important.
Larita Smaga
07.08.2013
Originally Posted by Paco Loco
Nice one Mojaxx! Thanks for the vid, very informative.
Thanks Paco!

I realised afterwards I'd actually missed out some stuff (like tempo adjust) even in a 15 minute video. Just goes to show how many features there are in the controller.

I'm giving Traktor Scratch a serious go after 6 years as a Serato user, and I must say the original X1 and now the Mk2 are making the switch a lot less painful. They are seriously impressive when combined with their native software.
Kellie Myrum
06.08.2013
Maile Dekerlegand
06.08.2013
Originally Posted by ekwipt
I like the Felix video, i have to say, the touchstrip looks really clunky the way he's using it like you have to be ultra careful not to shoot past wear you want to be, i can see this being trouble.

I'm wishing the new X1 were maybe single deck controllers, they could have gone next level with these
Amen

touchstrip-novation-twitch-review.jpg

/Come on Novation, bring out a four deck Twitch already!
Rochel Gleese
06.08.2013		I like the Felix video, i have to say, the touchstrip looks really clunky the way he's using it like you have to be ultra careful not to shoot past wear you want to be, i can see this being trouble.

I'm wishing the new X1 were maybe single deck controllers, they could have gone next level with these
Logan Lassey
06.08.2013
Originally Posted by Mojaxx
I got hold of one this weekend and did a walkthrough/demo video
Nice one Mojaxx! Thanks for the vid, very informative.
Kristofer Krauel
06.08.2013
Originally Posted by Stewe
Great vid. Cheers for posting!!
Kellie Myrum
06.08.2013
Delena Katherman
05.08.2013		Any owners of the new X1 know if it's possible to get access to the deck control selection option WITHOUT unplugging/replugging the unit? It's nowhere in the manual, so it seems like you get one choice when you plug the thing in and that's it. I'll often switch my decks up mid set if I switch from real vinyl to control vinyl.
Tiesha Fantoni
06.08.2013		[QUOTE=Mojaxx;641326]I got hold of one this weekend and did a walkthrough/demo video, I'm sure it's not 100% comprehensive but I covered as much as I could:

Great video man!

Do you know if you can pitch shift with it (without re-mapping it).


Allan Neubert
05.08.2013		I picked one up at guitar center and used it in a set this weekend alongside my old X1 which I set to decks 3/4. Here's a quick review. I use vinyl timecode so the primary use of the X1 is for effects & cut points.

* Fx section is exactly the same as old X1, except you can spin the knobs to pick effects which is nice. Need to build a habit out of it to use it during a set though.
* I thought the touch to show browse mode would be a great feature, in practice not so much. There is a half second or so delay between touching the knob and the on-screen change, I found it faster to press the encoder (you can press to show/hide browse mode as well). Touch for browse can be disabled in settings so no big deal.
* On the flip side the encoder + 2 buttons is far more functional for track browsing than the two encoders of the old X1. I was using maps for my DN-X1600 for track loading but the X1 is just as good.
* I thought that only 4 cue buttons might be a problem but mapping flux to switch actually works pretty well. You can still use flux by mapping that to shift + flux button (or flip them if you want flux more often than cues). The color coding of the buttons is FANTASTIC, makes it much less confusing (for me anyway) to figure out which cue is which when you're in a hurry. But they did drop the ball here, IMO hotcue shift should have been a dedicated button.
* The display of loop size is also great, although I have a lot of loops that are > 32 beats and for those it shows '32'. I wish it would show something else. But again, having a visual indicator of when you are in or not in a loop is great. You can use shift + push loop encoder to activate loop mode w/o setting a loop size which is great if you want to let your track "play into" a loop (effectively using a loop as a locked groove).
* Didn't use the transport controls at all other than the occasional sync to do a huge BPM change. But I imagine the oversized buttons will be nice for those that use them.
* Didn't use the touch strip at all, not really useful as is with timecode. At some point I want to mess with mapping this to effect manipulation which would be a lot more useful for me.

EDIT: Tried flux with vinyl timecode and it "works". I put works in quotes because flux mode appears broken in 2.6.3 (just not any more broken with timecode). I was able to break it pretty easily by jumping to a cue for 1 beat over and over. Do this a few times and the track display goes all fuzzy (like it does for parts of tracks it hasn't loaded) and it doesn't jump back (i.e. acts like flux mode is off). I also had a few jumps occur off beat with some crackle. This happened in multiple tracks with or without timecode and with or without using the X1. Also tried both tempo and beat sync and that didn't help either. Use flux at your own risk.

EDIT2: Did a bit more flux mode testing and the above problems only happen with FLAC files. Mp3's work fine.

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