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S4 - Traktor Pro 2 - Scamo's Effect Jogs Extreme [Version 5.0 Beta]- The Next Level
Posted on: 08.04.2012 by Rey Holubar
Hey everyone,

It's finally here! But, before we continue, some quotes to set the right mind and mood.

Uncle Ben
talking to Peter (Spiderman)
With great power there must also come great responsibility!

Jimbob
in a comment on DigitalDJ.com
Sample decks, loops, FX etc. are the next level. If your mixes suck without them, they won’t get better with them. Oh how many evening s have been spoiled by some clueless guy overusing the beatmasher.
That said, everyone who knows my previous mappings, I'd like you to try and just forget them. Now we are going to go to the next level!

What's new!

  • The ability to have up to 14 effect modes or groupings
  • The ability to quickly select through the modes with the C and D deck gain knobs
  • The ability to increment or step through effects in a grouping. Theoretically increasing the possible number of effect modes to 28
  • A better work flow for working with other controllers


If you are new to my FX Jogs mappings, you can go back through the old threads starting with this one and have a nice read. You can get an idea what you are getting into. If you want to start at the beginning, have at it.

Please note: There are two different mappings in the download below. One is the "Builder" and only has one FX mode just as an example FX grouping, so those who are interested in mapping their own effects can have a go at the other 13 modes. The second version is the "FULL" version and is the one I'll continue to add effect groupings as I get suggestions from other users or come up with my own ideas. The FULL version 5.0 beta only has 6 effect modes at the moment. You can read up on them and a bit on what they can do in the documentation in the download.

This first version is a BETA and is not ready for live performances. I have added some documentation in the download, but the section for mapping new effect groupings is missing and will be added for the gold version. I hope to have the gold running in a couple of weeks and I hope to spawn some creative juices for those effects wizards for some ideas on new and cool effects groupings. This mapping opens a whole new realm of FX jogs.

Copyright and Usage

Anyone can use this mapping free of charge for their own personal or professional use. It MAY NOT be uploaded to any other web site for download or passed on to third parties in its original or modified form without my authorization. Downloading the pakage below automatically signifies your acceptance to these usage rules.

That's it! I hope you like is and as always, have fun! I am looking forward to any and all constructive feedback.

scamo
Idella Hartleroad
06.07.2012
Hey scamo i downloaded your 4.3 gold version and i can get the jog wheels to change the quantity of the effects, if i press on the jog wheel the effects work but if i try and spin the wheel nothing happen. can you help me?!?!
Fannie Portilla
03.07.2012
And for me much more uninteresting.
Rey Holubar
03.07.2012
SMS is sold out and a lot further to drive for me.

scamo
Monty Strauder
02.07.2012
Nature ? mh ... let meet us @ Sonnemondsterne ! ....
Fannie Portilla
02.07.2012
Just the OT from me:

I got a MBP with an I7, so it should be strong enough.

And yes, the sample fires correct, when I switch of Quant OR Keylock OR when I stop the Remix Deck. It only happens with retrigger nd Quant & Keylock ON.

I'm looking forward to NIs answer. But you shoudl go on working on the new Version ;-)
Rey Holubar
02.07.2012
Well, with a quant of 1 and quantize on, there might seem to be a lag issue, if you don't time the start of the sample quite right or if your latency is poor. Try it by turning quantize off and see how well the sample fires. I know our i3 Windows system was a dog compared to our new MBP in this area too. I even had issues with the sample starting with a pop in some instances. The Mix Decks are definitely hungry for CPU power. What computer specs do you have?

Going to be interesting to hear what NI believes of the issue.

scamo
Fannie Portilla
01.07.2012
The Value doesn't matter, as far as I remember. But yes, for my Support Video it was 1.
Rey Holubar
01.07.2012
What is the Quantization value set at? 1?

scamo
Fannie Portilla
01.07.2012
I've just noticed a slight Bug with the Remix Decks when you use One Shots with Keylock and Quant. I made a Video which i've sent to the NI Support. I hope they'll fix that.
For now, the One shots have a litte starting Offset, when you use Keylock, Quant and the retrigger command.
Rey Holubar
01.07.2012
Cool. For sure, we'll come by, if we go there.

And what a difference the MBP makes. Holly cow. The control of the Mix Decks with the F1 is much better, because there are no small pops anymore and since the latency is much better, it is just a much, much tighter feel. Even the sound of the S4 is crisper and more "real" with Traktor and the MBP. The MBP seems to be definitely worth the purchase. The next step is taken to become a performing DJ.

scamo
Fannie Portilla
01.07.2012
Just give me a hint.

You're welcome at our Camp
Rey Holubar
30.06.2012
You mean this? http://www.nature-one.de/veranstaltungen/nature-one/

Cool! Yeah, I have plans to work a lot on the mappings in July, during my vacation.

Nature One isn't even a 2 hour drive from where I live. Maybe we'll drop by.

scamo
Fannie Portilla
30.06.2012
Congrats for that.

I'm courious, if you could manage it, to finish the Mapping in July, that I can use it on Nature One. Otherwise i will use the old Version
Rey Holubar
30.06.2012
Mini update. We've been blessed with an MBP (15" i7 Quadcore, 8 MB RAM, 500MB HD) in our family and I'll be playing with our new baby with any free time I have this weekend. So, no work on any mappings still. Sorry. But I hope the new baby will increase our joy in working with Traktor and help speed up our mapping and mixing endeavors. I really believe it will. The old i3 Window system was a pain and I am glad it is now replaced, finally.

scamo
Tamra Millus
27.06.2012
that setting is on and has always been that. :S
Rey Holubar
27.06.2012
There is a setting you need to turn on, so samples are saved, when you capture them. I believe, if that isn't on, then the samples are lost, once you remove them from the slots, even if you had saved the Mix Deck set (which is stupid functionality).

The setting is under "File Management->Save created loops and samples automatically"

Click that on and you should be good to go.

scamo
Tamra Millus
26.06.2012
I know this is not the right thread.
But have a little quick question about my F1.
How are you doing to make a "capture" and then manage to save the set?
When I do "capture" and press a pad and then save, open the saved set again the loop is not there.
I have watch the "all samples" and there is no loop there.
Rey Holubar
25.06.2012
At the latest. I might just get the Builder version out with a tutorial video sooner, to put up in the new DJTT Video Creation contest. Not sure I'll have the time (my main problem) though. We'll see. I'd really like to win the VCI-400EGE.

scamo
Britt Roback
25.06.2012
*sighs* end of July it is then..............
Rey Holubar
23.06.2012
The newest version is in the first post of this thread. I haven't yet finished the next version.

scamo
Vergie Igneri
23.06.2012
Where Can I get the newest version of this mapping ?
Britt Roback
20.06.2012
Yep I feel the f1 love. Isn't it great?? With our funky s4 it's a pretty good combo. Although you have a midi fighter 3d too so you'll be well having lots of coffee and staying up all evening . Well when you've finally come down from your fun mountain please believe about us Scamo effects mapping fans who simply can't wait to get our grubby mitts on your next mapping. Oh btw I'll also PayPal you some dosh as a way of saying " thankies"
Mikki Retana
20.06.2012
I feel you buddy, I am LOVING the F1 and I find myself spending a crazy amount of time trying to tweak my workflow.

I do have a question for you.

Would donations help, umm, speed things up? I know I would certainly give you some money in return for a more solid release date.

Let me know man.
Rey Holubar
20.06.2012
I'm here....

Please excuse me. I've been selfish and have been playing with my new toys (Traktor 2.5, F1 and MF3d) during any free time I've had the past two, three weeks. Unfortunately, the MF3d isn't working properly and I've been trying to figure out why. Traktor 2.5 is also flaky. It has crashed on me a couple of times now. (Once while working on the mappings).

At any rate. I have some more vacation coming mid-July. I know that doesn't sound fantastic, but it seems I need more spare time to concentrate on the maps. I'd say, by the end of July, I'll have the mappings finished. That isn't a promise, just my plan.

scamo
Mikki Retana
19.06.2012
SCAMMMOOOOO!!!! Where are you???
Delena Katherman
19.06.2012
Originally Posted by DysfunkDJ
Yeah my hands are becoming impatient
Likewise!
Britt Roback
18.06.2012
Yeah my hands are becoming impatient
Fannie Portilla
18.06.2012
How is it actual going?
Rey Holubar
10.06.2012
It isn't. I ended up working (to make money) this weekend and got two projects finished. However, I was burned out on Sunday and just basically didn't want to touch a computer. Sorry.

And don't worry about bothering me. I feel bad enough as it is already. You guys saying you want the mapping and kicking me in the ass will help me find the time and energy to continue.

I just ask you continue to be patient with me... a little more.

scamo
Delena Katherman
10.06.2012
Originally Posted by DysfunkDJ
How's it coming along old boy
Yeah, I hate to bother the guy, but I'm excited for the final release! Hope all is going well.
Britt Roback
10.06.2012
How's it coming along old boy
Rey Holubar
04.06.2012
Hey everyone. Another update.

I'm sorry to say, 2.5 has actually set me back a notch, but it is sort of my fault too. I was probably trying too much and 2.5 crashed and I lost all my changes. I was trying to finalize the Builder mapping with a new incremental effect mode 1. Also 2.5 has new mapping names and I had to "get used to them" too. The effect commands are totally different as their are no more single or group modes to select from. Instead, the effect commands are all put together in one selection.

So, I guess it was one step back to get possibly two steps forward. This coming weekend I have a 4 day weekend and hopefully won't have too much other work to do, so I can concentrate on the mappings some more. Sorry guys and gals that I am not faster with all this. I really wish I could be and thank you all for your patience and support.

Edit-/ Oh, I was also trying out how to make a video and I now have a video software and I found out my iPhone 4 is actually quite good at taking videos. I am afraid though, my computer is a bit too weak to play Traktor and run the screen capture too. I'm going to have to play with that some more. I also have to learn the video software. But for sure, we are getting there.

scamo
Delena Katherman
31.05.2012
Originally Posted by DysfunkDJ
How did you completely uninstall and reinstall? Do you lose your cue points and load markers etc. step by step guide pretty please. Just learnt how to do hopefully I won't lose anything and scamos map will now work.
I have a Mac, and this is what I did. First, I backed up my track collection just in case (right click on "track collection" in the browser and select export. Uncheck "copy tracks to destination". Then, I downloaded the Uninstall Utility from the Native Instruments web site. After I ran that (selecting to uninstall Traktor 2), I re-downloaded Traktor (newest version, obviously) and installed. I didn't lose any cue points or anything from my track collection, so I didn't end up needing the backup (good to do anyway). Everything seems to be working now!
Britt Roback
31.05.2012
Scamo are you finding you have to touch the jog wheel a second time for the effects to work? It's not a massive big deal just a little gripe.
Rey Holubar
31.05.2012
Originally Posted by Joseph278
Again a great Job with this Mapping, but I recognize a few Bugs, I believe.
Let me know what you are finding.

scamo
Rey Holubar
31.05.2012
Originally Posted by Krypt7n
Hey Scamo,

Been a long time follower and fan of your mappings. This is the first time I've ever run into a problem It's two days before a big show, and I decided to upgrade to 5.0 from 4.4 even though you warned against using it live. I figured I could just revert if I didn't like it. Upon loading the new mapping everything is great except the sensitivity of my jog wheels when scratching (not in Fx mode) has been greatly increased. I need to have my old sensitivity back for scratch parts during my set. I've looked through all the settings in TP2 as well as your modifications in your mapping with no avail. I even reverted back to the 4.4 mapping and the jog wheel sensitivity is still much higher than before. I don't know if I'm missing something obvious, but your mapping has irreversibly changed something in Traktor Pro 2 for me. Please help me out.

Krypt7n

edit- I have messed with the tempo bend sensitivity and it seems to have no effect. All other community posts say there is a 'scratch' sensitivity edit in the mapping somewhere but I can't find it in either of your mappings (4.4 or 5.0). Just to be clear I had everything set-up and working with 4.4 and Traktor 2.5. Something changed and even restoring back to my saved preferences with 4.4 won't fix anything.
Unfortunately, I don't know how to help, as my mapping should have absolutely no effect on the way the jogs scratch. I'd try turning Traktor off, disconnect the S4 from USB and turn the power off, reconnect and turn power on and then start Traktor again.

Other than that, I have no ideas. Sorry mate.

scamo
Sophia Piecyk
31.05.2012
Hey Scamo,

Been a long time follower and fan of your mappings. This is the first time I've ever run into a problem It's two days before a big show, and I decided to upgrade to 5.0 from 4.4 even though you warned against using it live. I figured I could just revert if I didn't like it. Upon loading the new mapping everything is great except the sensitivity of my jog wheels when scratching (not in Fx mode) has been greatly increased. I need to have my old sensitivity back for scratch parts during my set. I've looked through all the settings in TP2 as well as your modifications in your mapping with no avail. I even reverted back to the 4.4 mapping and the jog wheel sensitivity is still much higher than before. I don't know if I'm missing something obvious, but your mapping has irreversibly changed something in Traktor Pro 2 for me. Please help me out.

Krypt7n

edit- I have messed with the tempo bend sensitivity and it seems to have no effect. All other community posts say there is a 'scratch' sensitivity edit in the mapping somewhere but I can't find it in either of your mappings (4.4 or 5.0). Just to be clear I had everything set-up and working with 4.4 and Traktor 2.5. Something changed and even restoring back to my saved preferences with 4.4 won't fix anything.
Britt Roback
30.05.2012
How did you completely uninstall and reinstall? Do you lose your cue points and load markers etc. step by step guide pretty please. Just learnt how to do hopefully I won't lose anything and scamos map will now work.

Kind of works with fresh install. Need to grab the jog wheel again for effects to work but it's ok as still usable. I love the fact you can load a track by hitting the jog anyway. I have my f1 now too, well have had since Monday woop woop. Linked up to my s4 and launchpad = digital orgasm
Delena Katherman
30.05.2012
I just did a complete re-install of Traktor, and everything is back to normal. Why is it that this particular piece of software seems to require so many fresh installs when things go wrong? It seems to be the best solution to a lot of Traktor issues. Shouldn't the upgrade work better? Anyway, at least it's working again.

Can't wait for the new mapping (when you have time to finish, of course)!
Fannie Portilla
30.05.2012
I'L check it the coming days. My F1 will arrive tomorrow.

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