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S4 - Traktor Pro 2 - Scamo's Effect Jogs Extreme [Version 5.0 Beta]- The Next Level
Posted on: 08.04.2012 by Rey Holubar
Hey everyone,

It's finally here! But, before we continue, some quotes to set the right mind and mood.

Uncle Ben
talking to Peter (Spiderman)
With great power there must also come great responsibility!

Jimbob
in a comment on DigitalDJ.com
Sample decks, loops, FX etc. are the next level. If your mixes suck without them, they won’t get better with them. Oh how many evening s have been spoiled by some clueless guy overusing the beatmasher.
That said, everyone who knows my previous mappings, I'd like you to try and just forget them. Now we are going to go to the next level!

What's new!

  • The ability to have up to 14 effect modes or groupings
  • The ability to quickly select through the modes with the C and D deck gain knobs
  • The ability to increment or step through effects in a grouping. Theoretically increasing the possible number of effect modes to 28
  • A better work flow for working with other controllers


If you are new to my FX Jogs mappings, you can go back through the old threads starting with this one and have a nice read. You can get an idea what you are getting into. If you want to start at the beginning, have at it.

Please note: There are two different mappings in the download below. One is the "Builder" and only has one FX mode just as an example FX grouping, so those who are interested in mapping their own effects can have a go at the other 13 modes. The second version is the "FULL" version and is the one I'll continue to add effect groupings as I get suggestions from other users or come up with my own ideas. The FULL version 5.0 beta only has 6 effect modes at the moment. You can read up on them and a bit on what they can do in the documentation in the download.

This first version is a BETA and is not ready for live performances. I have added some documentation in the download, but the section for mapping new effect groupings is missing and will be added for the gold version. I hope to have the gold running in a couple of weeks and I hope to spawn some creative juices for those effects wizards for some ideas on new and cool effects groupings. This mapping opens a whole new realm of FX jogs.

Copyright and Usage

Anyone can use this mapping free of charge for their own personal or professional use. It MAY NOT be uploaded to any other web site for download or passed on to third parties in its original or modified form without my authorization. Downloading the pakage below automatically signifies your acceptance to these usage rules.

That's it! I hope you like is and as always, have fun! I am looking forward to any and all constructive feedback.

scamo
Issac Andreyev
01.08.2012
was thrilled until I saw it was posted on the site's mapping section...

for some reason it's been bugged for me for a few days now, can't login to it but can login fine to community s using same info. Oh well posted a bug report in the proper community when the problem first came up, hopefully it'll be fixed sometime soon so I can enjoy your amazing mapping.
Delena Katherman
01.08.2012
Killer job!
Rey Holubar
31.07.2012
Ok, the builder version is out with a slightly embarrassing video. Yeah, I sometimes don't know my right from my left and when I try to improv the speach (2nd half of the video), my mind flies and I then tend to sound like a retard. Lol! Self-criticism, the worst kind. If I wait to make the video perfect though, I'll never get done, so go easy with the laughing....it took some courage to release this video...

http://maps.djranking s.com/mappings/570

Have fun!

scamo

p.s. I have some chores to do today, but still hope to get the "How to map my mapping" video done by the end of the day, so it can upload overevening (the fundamentals video took 8 hours to upload, crappy DSL). So that video will be released tomorrow. Then the final touches to the full version will be done on Thursday and released (more than likely without any video) on Friday or Saturday, depending on if I find any more bugs. Sorry to Bassfly (and actually everyone else) for not being faster with these releases, but they are getting there!
Jessi Woychik
31.07.2012
May I commend you guys on some hard work...
Celinda Dolfi
30.07.2012
Oh man I cannot wait for you to release the builder version of this mapping, been following for awhile...drooling with anticipation!
Britt Roback
30.07.2012
Are you just teasing us now "maybe I'll release it" come on Scamo sort it out.
Fannie Portilla
30.07.2012
Okay, I still have it on a MBP and 2.5.1.

I can't wait to see the new mapping.
Rey Holubar
30.07.2012
Yeah well. Maybe I'll just release the full version (which isn't quite finished yet) without a video at first to save time. I want to get the "fundamentals" and "mapping my mapping" videos done, before I release the full version, because I truly believe the builder mapping and learning to map your own effect modes is going to be much more satisfying in the end, than my full mapping will be. People should learn to map their own effects modes/ groupings.

As for the double press to get the effect mode initialized, I also noticed this when I first started using my MBP and Traktor 2.5.0. I am not sure if it is a compatibility issue between Win and Mac or the 2.5.0 version of Traktor, but I am happy to say, this is gone now and to be honest, I don't know why it is gone, if it was upgrading to 2.5.1 or using my MBP to save the mapping, who knows. Good thing is, it isn't there anymore.

scamo
Tamra Millus
30.07.2012
Originally Posted by Bassfly
Sad to hear. For me personally, the Mapping itself would be enough for now, as I know the most to use ist, and the actual Versions are quite buggy with Traktor 2.5.1..

So I would be happy, to get the mapping now and the Videos a few time later .
i agree!! The funniest part is that playing with it and learn to understand the mapping.
Fannie Portilla
30.07.2012
The Full Version of V5 hast slightly Problems with the Joog Push. I hav to push twice to get all FX working. And this in every FX Mode. And V4 has the Problem that in 2.5 it doesn't switch of FX Back 3 and 4. So, when I go back to FX Mode 1, there is always still the delay on the FX bank working and on air.
Rey Holubar
30.07.2012
What are you noticing not working right with 2.5.1?

scamo
Fannie Portilla
30.07.2012
Sad to hear. For me personally, the Mapping itself would be enough for now, as I know the most to use ist, and the actual Versions are quite buggy with Traktor 2.5.1..

So I would be happy, to get the mapping now and the Videos a few time later .
Rey Holubar
29.07.2012
Hey everyone. Small disappointing update. My plans are only about 25% at where I wanted them at this point. Good news is, I am on vacation and am still working on the videos and mappings.This video stuff, as a beginner, is quite time consuming. I am getting better at it, I believe, but still, time consuming. If all goes well, (and I don't get disturbed) then the first and longest video with the mapping fundamentals and the builder mapping will be released today.

scamo
Kellie Myrum
29.07.2012
Hi Scamo,

Originally Posted by scamo
hat is also one of my biggest problems. When I start using the mapping, I get carried away with it, because I believe it is so fun and forget to continue actually mapping.)
This is very familiar feeling

I'm not S4 user but come by to bookmark at your thread anyway because I wouldn't like to miss video of mapping you have mention before. I have only heard bit of on soundcloud. Looking forward to see what have you been cooking all this time. Keep it rocking!
Larry Canas
29.07.2012
hi, i tried this mapping again and it didn't work properly. On the left deck everything was fine but on the right deck the third FX was never on. any tips to get rid of this problem?
Tamra Millus
29.07.2012
its sunday today and we are all waiting for the release! <3
Fannie Portilla
28.07.2012
Me too
Mikki Retana
28.07.2012
Originally Posted by scamo
Hmmm..., if you turn on the effect banks for decks C and D, then yes, the FX jogs will work. But that is a manual clicky thingy with the mouse or mouse pad to get the FX jogs to work on those decks. If you switch to deck C or D and press the load button on the S4, it doesn't turn on the FX jogs on, it loads a song. In order to get around this, with the new version you can switch the FX jogs to each deck with each gain encoder. Also, I've improved the take-over of the effect banks, so my mapping should work better with other controllers. Before, the mapping was only turning banks on and if a banks was already on, it stayed on, which could cause issues. Now, the mapping also turns the unused effects banks off. You'll see soon.

scamo
Thanks for the clarification. All I need to do to get the jog FX to work with the remix decks is enable the numbered effects bank slots for deck C or D. So, I just turn on FX units 1 and 3 within deck C, and boom, it all works.

Can't wait for the new mapping man.
Rey Holubar
26.07.2012
Hmmm..., if you turn on the effect banks for decks C and D, then yes, the FX jogs will work. But that is a manual clicky thingy with the mouse or mouse pad to get the FX jogs to work on those decks. If you switch to deck C or D and press the load button on the S4, it doesn't turn on the FX jogs on, it loads a song. In order to get around this, with the new version you can switch the FX jogs to each deck with each gain encoder. Also, I've improved the take-over of the effect banks, so my mapping should work better with other controllers. Before, the mapping was only turning banks on and if a banks was already on, it stayed on, which could cause issues. Now, the mapping also turns the unused effects banks off. You'll see soon.

scamo
Mikki Retana
26.07.2012
Originally Posted by scamo
Oh, oops. Had you said scrolling through the effects "modes", I might have caught on to what you wanted to say. Thanks for clarifying. FYI, my new mapping will have controls for Decks C and D. Each gain knob controls the effect modes for each channel now. Since NI's programming of the S4 in Traktor doesn't let you use FX Jogs with the Mix Decks (you can only scratch the Mix Decks with the jogs), I've made my mapping work around this.
That is REALLY strange, as the jog FX have been working flawlessly with the remix decks for me. I can use all of the effects included in your mapping on the remix decks. Is this not supposed to work????
Lachelle Mcmanamon
26.07.2012
Originally Posted by scamo
You want to change effect modes in my mapping, with a press of an MF button, right? Unfortunately, the mapping system doesn't work like that. Each controller has its own mapping and modifiers and thus, you can't get the one to control the other (at least not the modifiers).

Did I understand you correctly?

scamo
Yup that's correct! Okay well it was worth a shot Can't wait to use v5, thanks for all the amazing work scamo
Rey Holubar
26.07.2012
BTW, with the new videos, I won't be having a PDF anymore.(well, let's say I won't be updating it for now).

scamo
Rey Holubar
26.07.2012
Yes, my plan is to be finished with it (and all the videos) by Sunday. (but, be aware, me following plans for my hobby is practically impossible, but I try.) The builder mapping will be released today or tomorrow on the maps site with a "fundamentals" video. Then I will release a "How to Map my Mapping" video here in the community , because I truly believe it is better, when people learn to map themselves, as this opens up there ability to be much more creative. Then, I will be finishing up the Full version and releasing an explanation video of all the effects modes. I don't believe I'll have all 14 done, but there will be some new stuff and the mapping will be more flexible as you can now use it with decks C and D (and having a lot of fun with the Mix Decks. That is also one of my biggest problems. When I start using the mapping, I get carried away with it, because I believe it is so fun and forget to continue actually mapping.)

So that is the plan. But don't hold me to it.

scamo
Fannie Portilla
26.07.2012
How far is version 5 going? Do you see the finish line?
Rey Holubar
25.07.2012
Oh, oops. Had you said scrolling through the effects "modes", I might have caught on to what you wanted to say. Thanks for clarifying. FYI, my new mapping will have controls for Decks C and D. Each gain knob controls the effect modes for each channel now. Since NI's programming of the S4 in Traktor doesn't let you use FX Jogs with the Mix Decks (you can only scratch the Mix Decks with the jogs), I've made my mapping work around this.

Also, I believe I understand what you want now. You want to change effect modes in my mapping, with a press of an MF button, right? Unfortunately, the mapping system doesn't work like that. Each controller has its own mapping and modifiers and thus, you can't get the one to control the other (at least not the modifiers).

Did I understand you correctly?

scamo
Lachelle Mcmanamon
25.07.2012
Originally Posted by scamo
Woot?

Sorry, but why do you have to scroll through the effects with the knob at all? I don't understand.

scamo
When selecting the effect by holding shift and turning the gain knobs for deck C and D is what I meant when I said scrolling through the effects. I'd like to be able to push a button on the MIDI Fighter and have the LED stay on to show me which effect I have running.
Rey Holubar
25.07.2012
Woot?

Sorry, but why do you have to scroll through the effects with the knob at all? I don't understand.

scamo
Lachelle Mcmanamon
24.07.2012
Since I don't use my C and D decks very much (if at all), how hard would it be to take bank 3 on the MIDI FIghter with instant grat and assign it to Deck A's scamo FX and tack bank 4 and do this for Deck B? This way I could eliminate scrolling through the effects with the knob...
Aliza Seramur
23.07.2012
Thank you for your work on this project and sharing it with all of us.
Rey Holubar
21.07.2012
Highly doubt I'll have the full mapping ready early enough for you. Sorry.

sciamo
Mikki Retana
21.07.2012
Originally Posted by scamo
Yes, for everyone. This mapping was made with Traktor 2.1.3. If you have an older version of Traktor, the mapping won't work right.

This also goes for my upcoming releases by the end of next week. I am now running an MBP with Traktor 2.5 and you'll need Traktor 2.5 to run my next versions of the mappings. Sorry, if there are those of you who aren't upgrading yet to 2.5, but I really don't have the time to make mappings backwards compatible.

scamo
Thank you for the update Scamo. Can't wait to get hands on. I have a gig next saturday and I would love you if this was available a couple days in advance so I can test things out. Cheers bro.
Fannie Portilla
21.07.2012
Whow, end of next week. But okay, an't wait to test it. The actual Beat is a little bit Buggy with 2.5 so I wait for a new Version. So keep your great work Scamo. I love your mappings.
Rey Holubar
21.07.2012
Yes, for everyone. This mapping was made with Traktor 2.1.3. If you have an older version of Traktor, the mapping won't work right.

This also goes for my upcoming releases by the end of next week. I am now running an MBP with Traktor 2.5 and you'll need Traktor 2.5 to run my next versions of the mappings. Sorry, if there are those of you who aren't upgrading yet to 2.5, but I really don't have the time to make mappings backwards compatible.

scamo
Lachelle Mcmanamon
18.07.2012
Originally Posted by digitalvinyl
Hi Scamo,

I'm having a similar issue. When I press the jogwheel I can get each effect to play, but when I twist the wheel it doesn't modify the dry/wet for that effect. Is it because I'm running Traktor 2.0.1?
If anyone else had this issue, upgrading to 2.1.3 made it work like a charm.
Mikki Retana
17.07.2012
I am growing quite impatient scamo .... whats the status on this mapping??? Thanks man.
Fannie Portilla
17.07.2012
Hey Scamo

Will you get it the V5 working till next week?
Lachelle Mcmanamon
16.07.2012
Hi Scamo,

I'm having a similar issue. When I press the jogwheel I can get each effect to play, but when I twist the wheel it doesn't modify the dry/wet for that effect. Is it because I'm running Traktor 2.0.1?
Idella Hartleroad
12.07.2012
I am trying to load a mapping in the controller manager settings but every time I load it up (even loaded twice to see if there was a different result) it will revert to the default Traktor 4 mapping.

I can't find anything that sets it to default or change the default. I have tried deleting all other mappings but it will just recreate the default in some cases and in others just not assign anything at all.

All the help is appreciated,
Thanks.
Fannie Portilla
12.07.2012
How is it actual going?
Rey Holubar
07.07.2012
Um, your post doesn't make any sense. Sorry. What are you expecting to happen, when you spin the jog wheel?

scamo

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