Xone: K2 Thread
Xone: K2 Thread Posted on: 30.09.2011 by Romelia Stankard Wow this looks promissinghttp://www.allen-heath.com/uk/Produc...neK2&SubCatId= So if you link two together with the ethernet cable through USB, will it 'merge' the soundcard so you have a 4 channel soundcard? If it does then you could bring two to a gig, hook them together with ethernet and not need another audio interface and have a 4 channel soundcard. It kind of sucks they put one 1/8" on the front instead of having both outputs in the back. It makes it a little awkward if you wanted to run both outputs to separate channels on the mixer, now you have to run a cable to the front. Also remember you have the option to run each channel in traktor mono so you could use one of them as a 4 channel soundcard with a few adapters (like you would with an audio 2 or 4). Plus a lot of systems are mono anyway. I really like the idea of having one or two of these with a DB2 or DB4 for a home setup then just take them to your gig with a laptop and you have an audio interface to use already in your controller with the house mixer. I love the X1s but I might have to give them up for these, i would love to get my hands on one. | |
| Sunni Hallonquist 19.06.2012 | Thanks for the reply. I checked the xlink port and it looks like 1 pin may be a tiny bit off. I haven't had a chance to play with it to see if I can get midi signal by pushing down on the ethernet connector. There is some sort of connection happening though since the K2 lights up when I plug it into the DB4 xlink port, but as you mentioned, this may not mean it will be able to send AND receive MIDI. I'll play with snoize midi monitor and the connection and see what I can get. I really appreciate all the time and energy you put into creating these mappings, testing them, sharing them and helping everyone get their setup running optimally, it's a tremendous help. Cheers |
| Brant Briski 14.06.2012 | we always suggest checking things with snoize midi monitor to see what is transmitting and what isn't. but quite often, and this is becoming a bit of a problem for me in recent travels, lot's of DB4's have bent pins in their xlink ports from people sticking the wrong cable in the hole. if the pins get crossed, it can have some big problems. if they're bent out of the track and not making contact, then they may receive but not transmit, or possibly the other way round. check your physical connectors first with a flashlight to see if you notice anything out of alignment, then start attaching the units piece by piece, in every possible order to fully explore where the hang up is. with db4 and without. K2 #1 into K2 #2 via xlink, vice versa, etc... or if the pins are definitely bent, then it's usually a repair trip to fix it. you can try pushing down on the ethernet connector on the DB4 to see if that changes anything. |
| Sunni Hallonquist 14.06.2012 | I am running 1 K2 with the DB4. I have Mix Architekt's .tsi loaded in Traktor for 1 K2 with 2 decks. When I connect the K2 through USB, it works fine in Traktor. However, when I connect the K2 through the X-Link port on the DB4 I get no response from the K2 besides it initial light up. I have the in-port and out-port set to DB4 in the controller manager and still am not getting control. Any idea of what setting I may need to tweak to get midi sending/receiving from the K2 through the DB4 and into Traktor?
Originally Posted by mix architekt
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| Cammy Clegg 06.06.2012 | anyone use one of these for ableton live and an external mixer? |
| Joya Pomerinke 05.06.2012 |
Originally Posted by photojojo
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| Jonathan Chiuchiolo 05.06.2012 |
Originally Posted by Duros
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| Leeanna Ayla 05.06.2012 | You should be able to do everything the X1 does with the K2. The process may be a little different, but that's not necessarily a bad thing. |
| Joya Pomerinke 05.06.2012 | I was just wondering Is there anything missing on the K2 X1 emulator that there is on the X1? I just recieved a K2 for testing and the first question from one of the dj's in the company was - if i use the K2 with the X1 mapping. What do i loose of functionality then. I've looked at the overlay and can't see what would be missing. |
| Yuki Gance 31.05.2012 | Great work Rainer! I'm looking forward for it! Btw, does anyone else having problems with the ember layer? If all the LEDs light up I hear a beeping sound coming out of my K2. It's not that loud but you can hear it when is the volume is down. Greets, -Duros |
| Bethel Himmelein 31.05.2012 | K2RemixDeck.jpgK2 and Remix Decks I am working on a TSI/lemur template combo package, that will allow to control the 2.5 remix decks from the K2. K2 overlay is attached. Having some problems with capturing atm, but the rest works fine. Still need to do some testing |
| Lamonica Basenberg 30.05.2012 | Received my K2 yesterday The quality is the buttons, knobs and faders are very very nice! The rubber buttons feel better than Native X1! I've made some mapping to the original X1 Emulator, I have mapped chained effects and Master deck selector with led feedback. If someone interested, I can upload it |
| Kenya Zaretsky 18.05.2012 | I'm wondering if there's an official 2 deck internal mixer mapping with overlay to print out? Just found the X1 Emulator mapping. |
| Dorie Scelzo 17.05.2012 | Yeah…if you want to use them as controllers, use them as controllers. If not, you need an audio interface that has 2 stereo ins, and just set the traktor decks as live inputs and configure things correctly. |
| Ashlea Retzlaff 17.05.2012 | I just bought CDJ900s off someone from these community s and was wondering if its possible to use these with my k2 as the mixer and traktor controller for the time being until i can save enough for a mixer. This is doable yea? |
| Donella Bentch 03.05.2012 | Uups-it |
| Cathern Ent 03.05.2012 | Still seems to be stock issues in the UK so picked one up from Germany for |
| Chasidy Heckenbach 25.04.2012 |
Originally Posted by djproben
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| Farah Chaleff 25.04.2012 | Followed everything on the manual when I change the sound setting to internal no sound comes out of the k2 |
| Danae Dumler 24.04.2012 | Ditto ... We'll likely never see NI fix this in Traktor but it would help if the Xtreme Mapping developer knew people wanted this feature. I remember emailing him when I first started using it and (IIRC) he basically said he left it out as a safety feature so that people didnt totally hose their mappings in one fell swoop. It would be great to have the option, even if he wanted to add a dialogue box "are you sure you want to do this?" to the action |
| Chasidy Heckenbach 24.04.2012 | indeed... and even xtreme mapping doesn't really help with that. would be nice to be able to group by note/cc, select them all and change them. |
| Kiyoko Wellisch 24.04.2012 | There should be a way to change the midi notes of a traktor mapping in batches. |
| Chasidy Heckenbach 24.04.2012 |
Originally Posted by coupon
else u can use the latching layers and remap all the midifighter notes to those 3 banks. would be cool as it'd give 3 banks of 4x4 buttons ofc - u could then add your own stuff on the top row. neither is *simple* tho probably |
| Ashlea Retzlaff 24.04.2012 | i asked this in the midifigther thread but maybe i can get a better answer here. is there a simple way to load the insta grat mapping onto the k2? |
| Kimberli Nisanov 23.04.2012 |
Originally Posted by dirtynerd
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| Krystina Chludzinski 23.04.2012 | mac_aggregate_device.jpg Aggregate Device on a Mac |
| Krystina Chludzinski 23.04.2012 |
Originally Posted by djproben
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| Leota Dolney 22.04.2012 |
Originally Posted by Robert Kevening
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| Kimberli Nisanov 22.04.2012 |
Originally Posted by DirtyNerd
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| Brant Briski 21.04.2012 | xlink will only tx/rx midi information, not audio. don't let the rj45 fool you into believeing that it has gigabit ethernet bandwidth capabilities, because it does not. when linking multiple K2's together via xlink, the data from all the controllers will be seen by any of the computers connected to them via usb. this could be through a db-series mixer using xlink, the usb ports on the K2's them selves, etc. for instance - 2 K2's linked by xlink with the cpu connected to one of the K2's will see midi from both K2's, on the individual midi channels each K2 is set to, but only recognizes one K2 as the midi in port. my 2x K2 tsi is an example of this. it will work through the DB4 in the same way - 3 channels of midi information will be seen by a single input device (db4 via usb) in your computer. it also means that you can have multiple computers on a K2 xlink network. for instance - 2 K2's + 1 DB4 can have a total of 3 computers connected, all rx the midi from the k2's, and can tx to them as well. midi clock does not hold up very well for sync in that scenario - too many conversions from point to point. the variance can be around 100bpm - speaking from experience of running 5 computers on 4 K2's and 1 DB4. this is a problem you'll find with midi clock in general. external sync solutions are recommended for this - inner clock systems from oz is worth a look. K2's operate on a single midi channel, not multiples. latching layers shifts the midi note/cc's, and does not change the midi channel itself. but all of that is covered in the manual, which is on line at the xone site. also there is a firmware update which helps with initialization issues, so please update your units if you have not already. :-) |
| Chasidy Heckenbach 21.04.2012 | Kinda disappointing if it can't do audio aggregation though not a deal-breaker by any means.
Originally Posted by djproben
Kinda disappointing if it can't do audio aggregation though not a deal-breaker by any means.
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| Danae Dumler 21.04.2012 |
Originally Posted by zestoi
Kinda disappointing if it can't do audio aggregation though not a deal-breaker by any means. It just seems that it ought to and that was my understanding before I bought it, that whatever info could be transfered over USB could also go through X-LINK and be available to any connected units. Of course audio itself wouldn't transfer but given that both units (whether 2 K2s or a K2 and DB4) have D/A converters built into them, surely it would be trivial for either unit to handle the conversion to audio? It's still just ones and zeroes as far as the controllers are concerned. I feel like X-LINK has a lot of promise but it's still quite a ways from being realized; most of the things I imagined the K2 would make possible simply aren't, at least at this point. Hopefully A+H are working on some firmware magic for this and for their mixers that make this unit more useful. |
| Chasidy Heckenbach 21.04.2012 |
Originally Posted by djproben
@zestoi - yeah I've had a hard time getting any tsis to work the way I have it set up with the DB4, but I also haven't had time to mess with it. But I installed mixarchitekt's tsi for the K2 and none of the controls do anything.
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| Danae Dumler 21.04.2012 |
Originally Posted by padi_04
@zestoi - yeah I've had a hard time getting any tsis to work the way I have it set up with the DB4, but I also haven't had time to mess with it. But I installed mixarchitekt's tsi for the K2 and none of the controls do anything. |
| Nedra Fresneda 20.04.2012 |
Originally Posted by deevey
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| Caitlyn Scarantino 20.04.2012 | Got mine last week, I finally created a mapping I was happy with. I'll be testing on my weekly online radio show tomorrow... |
| Rolanda Clodfelder 20.04.2012 | Ah ok, shame really ... Do you need the the second unit to be plugged in direct to USB to show the second units sound card on the Mac/PC or will it run just on the xlink between units ? |
| Branden Wentler 20.04.2012 | XLINK and the sound card are mutually exclusive and AFAIK they show as individual sound cards when plugged via USB |
| Rolanda Clodfelder 20.04.2012 |
I only have one K2 but when I plug it into my DB4 with the XLINK it aggregates the controllers - they show up as one controller, the DB4, in Traktor, yet the controls on the K2 send midi signals to traktor so I know it's working. Pretty sure that will happen with two K2s as well. Yay Xlink! I just wish it could control some of the capabilities of the DB4 too.
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| Chasidy Heckenbach 20.04.2012 | sounds pretty cool if it can do that just with a couple of k2's as opposed to with the DB4. only the flip side tho, if it does aggregate, surely u can't use any standard tsi's with the second one if u have two plugged in? as one of them has to send different midi if it's part of the same aggregate device. no conflict i guess with the k2 midi and what your DB4 sends out? edit: i guess a device can have multiple in and out ports so maybe that's how it works? but not if all u see if one in traktor. |
| Danae Dumler 20.04.2012 |
Originally Posted by zestoi
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