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Posted on: 30.09.2011 by Romelia Stankard
Wow this looks promissing

http://www.allen-heath.com/uk/Produc...neK2&SubCatId=



So if you link two together with the ethernet cable through USB, will it 'merge' the soundcard so you have a 4 channel soundcard?

If it does then you could bring two to a gig, hook them together with ethernet and not need another audio interface and have a 4 channel soundcard. It kind of sucks they put one 1/8" on the front instead of having both outputs in the back. It makes it a little awkward if you wanted to run both outputs to separate channels on the mixer, now you have to run a cable to the front. Also remember you have the option to run each channel in traktor mono so you could use one of them as a 4 channel soundcard with a few adapters (like you would with an audio 2 or 4). Plus a lot of systems are mono anyway.

I really like the idea of having one or two of these with a DB2 or DB4 for a home setup then just take them to your gig with a laptop and you have an audio interface to use already in your controller with the house mixer.

I love the X1s but I might have to give them up for these, i would love to get my hands on one.
Lynetta Stanislav
05.12.2012
Anyone one any ideas on this

Originally Posted by neilmcm
I am trying to use my K2 as my soundcard for my maschine have the output from maschine set as K2 but no getting any sound , when I switch the output to my Db4 I get sound , not sure if I am missing some thing. I have 2 k2s connected via xlink then usb to a hub then the mac.
Carrie Vongonten
05.12.2012
Well if you're using the K2 standalone, i.e. without a mixer, you would need
- 4*3 = 12 potis for the EQ
- 4*3 = 12 buttons for kill EQ
- 4*3 = 12 buttons for play, cue, and sync
- 4 line faders for volume
- 4 push encoders for loops
- more knobs for gain, cue-levels, mix, cue activate, key.. and then you haven't covered effects yet.

Sure you could use latching layers, but then you forfeit multiple LED output colors.. and quite honestly: latching layers is nothing else than a built-in shift mode.

As said, it's possible, but uncomfortable.
Kiyoko Wellisch
05.12.2012
Why do you need so many shift modifiers? You get a fader, 3 knobs, an encoder and 24 buttons per deck. Surely that's more than enough? Of if you're not using the latching layers you get 8 buttons, still more than enough for one deck.
Carrie Vongonten
05.12.2012
My experience has shwon that 4-deck just using the K2 is... possible.. but uncomfortable.
You'll have to work with many modifiers and shift buttons, which isn't exactly intuitive and bears the risk of doing something crazy when playing in a club.. especially after a couple of beers.

You may be interested in my simple 2 deck mapping: http://djsetup.de/einfaches-2-deck-xone-k2-mapping/
The site is German, but the picture should be self-explanatory: http://djsetup.de/wp-content/uploads...Mapping_v1.png
Danae Dumler
05.12.2012
Originally Posted by photojojo
You want two deck or four deck?
Two deck would do me fine though I'd love to play with a good four deck option too if it's available.

As for making my own, yeah that's true but I didn't want to reinvent the wheel, and it wouldn't just take me an hour - I'd probably spend days trying to get it perfect, and wind up making it overcomplicated, and then wasting time I could be spending playing music screwing around with mappings.... Might wind up doing that anyway but I'd rather start with something that works than from scratch.
Leeanna Ayla
04.12.2012
Originally Posted by djproben
Is there a decent mapping available for using one K2 and Traktor? I want the K2 configured as the only controller and soundcard so I can just bring the K2 and a computer and do everything I need. None of the mappings I've looked at seem very intuitive, and my poor K2 is just gathering dust... (well, actually it's not gathering dust thanks to the fancy case, but still...)
You want two deck or four deck?
Lynetta Stanislav
04.12.2012
I am trying to use my K2 as my soundcard for my maschine have the output from maschine set as K2 but no getting any sound , when I switch the output to my Db4 I get sound , not sure if I am missing some thing. I have 2 k2s connected via xlink then usb to a hub then the mac.
Kiyoko Wellisch
04.12.2012
Just make one, it's only take an hour or two and then you'll have exactly what you're after.
Danae Dumler
04.12.2012
Is there a decent mapping available for using one K2 and Traktor? I want the K2 configured as the only controller and soundcard so I can just bring the K2 and a computer and do everything I need. None of the mappings I've looked at seem very intuitive, and my poor K2 is just gathering dust... (well, actually it's not gathering dust thanks to the fancy case, but still...)
Kenya Zaretsky
21.11.2012
Can anyone tell me if the Xone K2 is usb class compilant and is working with software like djay for the ipad/iphone?
Marcos Zelko
20.11.2012
Well the only reason I would do layers is so that I wouldn't have to hit shift in order to change a parameter. I would like to have each deck accesible over two k2's + the option to run on 1 k2 if the other fails. My current map is using all 3 of the colour LED's and it is cool as f**K tho...
Carrie Vongonten
20.11.2012
Yes, only one color per latching layer.
I'd encourage you to re-map the K2 with latching layers off.. There's so much cool stuff you can do with color LEDs... And you can always map a new layer using she shift-key and modifiers... So there's no need really for latching layers.
Marcos Zelko
19.11.2012
Quick question for those who have mapped there k2's via layers mode. Right now I have a 2 deck + effects setup with a single k2. Later on I plan to add a second k2 so I can control 4 decks with 5 hot cues per deck. What I want to know is when mapping with layers, are all the LED return feedback colours all the same as the current layer? Like for example 1 layer is red, will all my buttons have to be red in that layer for my map to work properly? Reason I ask is because my 2deck mapping has all 3 colours in the mapping according to what each button does. Hot cues in red, play green, sync orange etc.
Kiyoko Wellisch
24.10.2012
Yeah, I would have much preferred two sets of RCAs on the back tbh.
Cassaundra Lindesmith
24.10.2012
Just posted my first mapping i've ever made (BBridges K2 map). its 2 deck with 2 fx superknobs, 4 hc per deck, play sync cue, full eq w/ kills and filter, and loop select/set. It also has the cue buttons, which are mapped under volume fader, as monitor level as lights. the clip light is at the top of the channel strip under the gain knob.

I need help figuring out and fixing bugs, so take a look and feel free to comment.
Carrie Vongonten
24.10.2012
I believe you'll have to remap most controls, as the latching changes the notes.
I would anyways suggest to disable latching completely and use modifiers for switch functionality.
Lynetta Stanislav
24.10.2012
I am using the K2 with the x1 emulator which only has the bottom buttons latched , can I switch the latching to all buttons and switches and still use the mapping or do I need to remap everything or just the led feedback.
Carrie Vongonten
24.10.2012
Alternatively you can download my cheat sheet with all the correct notes on one page:
http://djsetup.de/xonek2-midi-return-cheat-sheet/
Leeanna Ayla
23.10.2012
Originally Posted by neilmcm
Is it possible to change the amount of layers on the X1 emulator mapping without messing the map up , I want to change from layer 2 to to layer 4 so I can map addition controls.
Originally Posted by neilmcm
Yes there are 3 layers but you can set the latching layers to 5 different states ,
So you want to go from the Switch Matrix being a latched layer to All Controls being latched by going through the setup menu each time? I don't believe that will give you any more controls as the three layers are still the only three layers you get. That initial layer on the faders and knobs when you're in Switch Matrix will be the first layer when you switch to All Controls so you might as well just start in All Controls. You can set a modifier to give you additional controls.
Leeanna Ayla
23.10.2012



https://www.evernote.com/shard/s3/sh...5-01bca25d2386
A&H put out a new user guide with the correct notes.

http://www.allen-heath.com/uk/Produc...=#tabset-tab-4
Cassaundra Lindesmith
23.10.2012
So i am trying to map the midi out messages of traktor to my k2 so the lights work. In the K2 manual it says the button i want to map is Eb7, but i don't see it on the drop down menu. i tried the cc # of 99, but that isnt working either. any suggestions?
Lynetta Stanislav
21.10.2012
Yes there are 3 layers but you can set the latching layers to 5 different states ,
Leeanna Ayla
20.10.2012
Originally Posted by firebr4nd
Wait isn't there only 3 layers Orange, yellow, and red?
Yes, there's only three.
Ulysses Vittetoe
20.10.2012
Originally Posted by neilmcm
Is it possible to change the amount of layers on the X1 emulator mapping without messing the map up , I want to change from layer 2 to to layer 4 so I can map addition controls.
Wait isn't there only 3 layers Orange, yellow, and red?
Lynetta Stanislav
19.10.2012
Is it possible to change the amount of layers on the X1 emulator mapping without messing the map up , I want to change from layer 2 to to layer 4 so I can map addition controls.
Lynetta Stanislav
17.10.2012
All working now thanks Mix Arch for all the help.
Lynetta Stanislav
17.10.2012
thanks will try this toevening , I am using ur Db4 tsi will this be ok to import using the small import once I have the k2's setup.
Brant Briski
17.10.2012
if you're using xlink only, it's easy to connect them in the wrong order. DB4 is always the in at the end of the chain. K2A out, into K2B in, K2B out into DB4 in. then in traktor your in and out port will be the DB4 for both parts of the map - transport and fx.

if you're using USB and an xlink connection - the same chain applies. K2A out into K2B in, K2B usb into your computer. then in traktor you'll set the in/out ports to K2 as above.

if the K2's are not waking up then run snoize midi monitor. also make sure their firmware is updated. and that your xlink port is not messed up from shoving usb cables into the wrong hole.

i'd also suggest deleting all the tsi's in your preferences (after you export any unsaved changes), then reimport the K2 tsi using the import button on the bottom left of the preferences. make your port assignments if needed and roll from there. you may need to restart traktor to see the led's come to life on boot, or just press all the buttons to wake them up.

traktor remembers your last state, so port assignments are only done once unless you're changing the connection method constantly.
Lynetta Stanislav
17.10.2012
I tried them on 12 and 14 but could only get one to be recognised at a time and I need to set the ports everytime I start traktor is this normal , with the x1 or f1 they just plug and play.
Brant Briski
16.10.2012
my maps run on ch's 12 and 14.
Lynetta Stanislav
16.10.2012
yes got one mapping set for 14 and the other to 15 and both set to 14 and 15 on the k2's , I am getting the led outputs but no other controls of anything else on the one set to 15.
Leota Dolney
16.10.2012
Originally Posted by neilmcm
I have just got my second K2 and having a few issues connecting both to traktor . I was using the first one with the X1 emulator map with no issues , when I got the second K2 I wanted to use Mix Arch's mapping but could only get one of the K2's recognised at a time , I tried swapping the k2's in the controller manager but this didn't work . I then remapped the x1 mapping so I could use decks A&C on one k2 and B&D on the other , I managed to get this working but now it won't work can only get the A/C K2 to work , I have unplugged the B/D k2 and replugged it in , I then have to reselect the mapping every time foe both k2's . I have one on midi channel 14 and the other on 15 , they are connected via usb hub to macbook .
do the mappings that you are using use the same midi channel as what you have set on the K2s? If you switch one K2 to use midi channel 14, then whatever mapping you use for it needs to also have all its commands set to use midi channel 14.
Lynetta Stanislav
16.10.2012
I have just got my second K2 and having a few issues connecting both to traktor . I was using the first one with the X1 emulator map with no issues , when I got the second K2 I wanted to use Mix Arch's mapping but could only get one of the K2's recognised at a time , I tried swapping the k2's in the controller manager but this didn't work . I then remapped the x1 mapping so I could use decks A&C on one k2 and B&D on the other , I managed to get this working but now it won't work can only get the A/C K2 to work , I have unplugged the B/D k2 and replugged it in , I then have to reselect the mapping every time foe both k2's . I have one on midi channel 14 and the other on 15 , they are connected via usb hub to macbook .
Alejandrina Hicken
15.10.2012
Originally Posted by Drumfire82
I have tested a loaded a TSI for Ableton and this time I cannot get the K2 to be recognised in the Midi sync tab under control surface yet it shows up in the input output and also midi ports.

Cheers - Mark
If you are talking about the automatic mapping capabilities offered by the "control surface" pulldown menus in Ableton's MIDI preferences, then you won't have any success unless you have a remote script for your controller installed in Ableton's MIDI Remote Scripts folder (these are collections of python scripts). Controllers that come with these files are listed here: http://www.ableton.com/pages/control...ll_controllers. Other people have written custom versions for their own controllers, but as far as I know nobody has posted one for the K2 online.
Horace Yemm
13.10.2012
Originally Posted by Drumfire82
Yeah I have a Allen Heath DB4 so shouldn't be a problem there
Yep so I have a DB4 and the K2 is not running via the xlink. Single mode is an option on the A&H site. Still can't get it working. Might be a conflict somewhere along the line?
Rolando Lomangino
09.10.2012
i know the chroma caps dont fit but I really want to replace those faders (using it as a mixer) does anything else work? I have a xone 22 I will try there faders when I get the K2 but I will obviously have to order more.
Horace Yemm
05.10.2012
Originally Posted by MrPopinjay
Can't tell from the post but how are you using the Xlink? Xlink only works between K2s and A&H mixers. You cannot just plug it into your computer's ethernet jack, it's not designed for that
Yeah I have a Allen Heath DB4 so shouldn't be a problem there
Leeanna Ayla
03.10.2012
Originally Posted by MrPopinjay
Can't tell from the post but how are you using the Xlink? Xlink only works between K2s and A&H mixers. You cannot just plug it into your computer's ethernet jack, it's not designed for that
This, the K2's can be connected to each other so that you only have to use one USB on the computer or you can connect them to an A&H DB series mixer.
Kiyoko Wellisch
03.10.2012
Can't tell from the post but how are you using the Xlink? Xlink only works between K2s and A&H mixers. You cannot just plug it into your computer's ethernet jack, it's not designed for that
Horace Yemm
03.10.2012
Alright people.

I have a K2 and have an X1 emulator tsi running Traktor just to start things simple. At the moment I seem to only be able to run it through usb, i get nothing from the Xlink - Any ideas?
I have tested a loaded a TSI for Ableton and this time I cannot get the K2 to be recognised in the Midi sync tab under control surface yet it shows up in the input output and also midi ports.
I run a mac so from what I gather I don't need to install any drivers and cannot see anything on the cd that comes with it. I am a mapping novice and have only mapped basic stuff in Ableton to my APC40 in the last.
I might have missed something really obvious and only have limited knowledge so can someone help a brother out?

Cheers - Mark

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