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New NI controller!
Posted on: 12.09.2012 by Marquetta Sarnie
Pic from FB, more info tomorrow!
Leota Dolney
12.09.2012
Originally Posted by rdej47
I could be wrong, but I haven't seen anything about this. Anyone hazard a guess as to what the M means next to the new effects? I've got a funny feeling it could mean mixer effects - you only get access to these effects if you use the new mixer.
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Originally Posted by DirtyNerd
I am really most curious now about the FX. As others have pointed out, it looks like there are some new FX (Bass-o-Matic, laser sclicer)...also what is Flux Mode? The "M" next to the Bass-o-matic effect makes me concerned that it will only be available on the Mixer...but then again, it may have nothing to do with that....
Lanita Aring
12.09.2012
I could be wrong, but I haven't seen anything about this. Anyone hazard a guess as to what the M means next to the new effects? I've got a funny feeling it could mean mixer effects - you only get access to these effects if you use the new mixer.
Geri Jarra
12.09.2012
Originally Posted by DJZILCH
so... are the faders magnetic or normal ones?
Im wondering the same. If NI is trying to bust into the scratch market, it better have a magnetic cross fader at least.

Ive pretty much concluded that this is a long over-due attempt to get NI into the scratch mixer scene, but is not meant to replace the S4. I predict a new S4 coming out, or a 4ch mixer similar to this Z2 (Z4?)

Regardless Im glad NI is doing mixers now, although Im not draining my bank account until I see something I can't live without. but I am interested to see the price point (im guessing $599) and the software update/new effects
Johnsie Kingrea
12.09.2012
Originally Posted by padi_04
Looks like they will keep the fingerprint magnet design they used on the S4's mixer section.
haha no doubt, I don't even know how they get it out of the factory with nothing on it.
Kellie Myrum
12.09.2012
Could it be "M" next to effects mean that wel see mixer effects back with traktor? Select Global FX Unit / Direct-mixer. I'd love that.
Nedra Fresneda
13.09.2012
Looks like they will keep the fingerprint magnet design they used on the S4's mixer section.
Elmer Kindinger
13.09.2012
Originally Posted by dj subculture
Nice mixer. But I'll wait for the four channel version.
This.
Johnsie Kingrea
13.09.2012
Originally Posted by Invoke
looks cool... as long as there is no internal mixing it should be very cool
True, ever since using an analog mixer I've always disliked Traktor's EQ.
Alla Bluemke
13.09.2012
I mean its awesome its a stand-alone mixer from what I gather. But won't like more then half the unit be non usable unless you hook a computer up to it anyways? Or will all these functions like loops and effects be built in?

If thats the case, couldn't they just offer a bare bones one as well that isn't standalone for a cheaper price?
Kristin Tesfamichael
13.09.2012
looks cool... as long as there is no internal mixing it should be very cool
Fannie Ohayre
12.09.2012
Nice mixer. But I'll wait for the four channel version.
Jamila Citino
12.09.2012
So this seems to be right down my alley. I have been believeing of stepping up from my S2 to either SL1200s or SC3900s but would likely still stick with Traktor since I am quite familiar with it.

So this fits right into what I would need in the setup, a mixer, hopefully with the ability to swap out crossfaders, that can hook up a F1 or two. This is meant for people that want to stay in the Traktor line while going away from controllersm and getting that beautiful 1:1 matchup to software.
Charise Duphily
12.09.2012
I quite like it and I've been looking at getting a new mixer so this could be perfect. My only concern is that it will be made cheaply and built similar to the S4, which I wasn't too keen on.
Leota Dolney
12.09.2012
I am really most curious now about the FX. As others have pointed out, it looks like there are some new FX (Bass-o-Matic, laser sclicer)...also what is Flux Mode? The "M" next to the Bass-o-matic effect makes me concerned that it will only be available on the Mixer...but then again, it may have nothing to do with that...

Not sure if I am going to ever get this. I have a DN-X1700, Xone:K2, F1, & X1...so I don't really need another mixer at all and I have plenty of MIDI control available to me... I may go a different direction and get an RMX-1000 for dedicated FX...but for now I am working on a mapping for my K2 that will handle the more complex FX settings for me. If the new Traktor FX are good, I may avoid getting an RMX-1000 and just work with Traktor for all my FX.
Kandra Fagler
12.09.2012
so... are the faders magnetic or normal ones?
Leota Dolney
12.09.2012
Originally Posted by rdej47
No gain knobs, it had better be mixer height as well. Again why the tease??

It looks like the fx have changed as well... Maybe they're customizable. Also that performance was a sonic mess.
Actually, it looks to me like there are gain knobs. There is fatter (filter?) knob on the bottom of the knob strip, then 3 equal sized knobs (EQs), and then a smaller knob on top of that which I am guessing is gain.
Meg Reinoehl
12.09.2012
Although the design of the mixer makes complete sense, the extra knobs/buttons on the sides of the mixer are exactly what I don't like about the Rane 68, now NI has gone and done it. I wish that the mixer and "X1" controls were side by side, but again, it makes sense to have the controls next to the respective decks.

This product does look intriguing, a DJ mixer really completes the Traktor ecosystem. Although I'm not a fan design, maybe some real world use will change my mind.
Teresia Janusch
12.09.2012
dont believe i see any benefit of this...
Johnsie Kingrea
12.09.2012
Damn beat me too it haha. So do you guys believe this is analog or will it operate in internal mode?
Dierdre Stillabower
12.09.2012
Originally Posted by rdej47

http://translate.google.com/translat...tor-kontrol-z2
Leota Dolney
12.09.2012
Originally Posted by Nicky H
F1's have their own volume controls.
I believe it is to use alongside other NI gear.
F1's may have their own volume faders, but there is likely still a need for EQs for the remix decks.
Marshall Aby
12.09.2012
Google had a go:
Take a good analog mixer, put all the important controls for Traktor Pro 2.5 and you have the Kontrol Z2 mixer.

Main points of the Kontrol Z2:

Traktor Scratch certified two-channel mixer
A full-sized blender who must compete with the same high quality that the competitor offers.

Two additional channels for Traktor
There are 4 channels can be found on the mixer (A / B / C / D), wherein the latter two are suitable for Traktor and associated peripherals such as the Traktor Kontrol F1.

A USB hub
Allows all your Traktor gear on your computer / laptop connect only one USB cable.

Midi-control loops and Traktor's effects
Control and view your loops, as known from the Kontrol S4 (with LED display). The effects of Traktor Kontrol can obviously with the Z2 controlled.

Hot cues for each channel
Beside each channel on the mixer are four buttons available, which can be used as hot cues. It is also possible, in view of the plurality of assigned colors and the presence of a SHIFT-key, these keys to be used as a sample, such as well-known triggers of the Kontrol F1.

Separate filters
Among the EQs of the channels, the filters are to be found.

Traktor Library Browser
in the middle of the mixer is a button which allows the library to open Traktor and then scrolling down through your tracks.

The Traktor Kontrol Z2 will scratch DJs to really speak. The two-channel layout and quality Traktor and devices entail, will therefore very much in the limelight.

The combination with Kontrol F1 and Kontrol X1's is very easy to set up now there is a mixer that seamlessly integrate into this setup. The USB hub makes this easy by a jumble of wires to avoid.
Johnsie Kingrea
12.09.2012
http://www.tonecontrol.nl/native-ins...tor-kontrol-z2

anyone care to translate?
Leota Dolney
12.09.2012
Originally Posted by LoopCat
I've been believeing the same way. I haven't seen a new good house/techno (longer faders, four channels) style mixer other than Pioneers DJM series which I'm not that fond of.

Actually scratch that Denon have some pretty good gear
I have a DN-X1700 and I love it...It was either that or a Xone:92...I went with the Denon for the 2 FX engines and the MIDI mappability...

Not sure what I would do with this new Traktor controller. If it is the size (and weight) of a regular mixer, I doubt that I would want to lug it around. It is only 2 channels which may reduce the size, but it does look like there are extra buttons and knobs on the sides so that the size may not be all that small.

Now, a MIDI mixer (no analog) with built-in sound card to control Traktor, now that is something I can get down with.
Johnsie Kingrea
12.09.2012
I can't believe I didn't notice this but the FX section only have one on button, it's not like the X1 where there's 4 on buttons for the chained fx.
Johnsie Kingrea
12.09.2012
Judging by the deck c fader hologram in the video it looks like it's being controlled by an encoder/knob.
Marshall Aby
12.09.2012
Maybe the M stands for mixer, as in; the mixer has on board fx. Which would be handy if you can use it standalone. The Bass-o-matic one only uses the one knob.
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On second thoughts, that sounds a bit bonkers. Not sure NI would do that.
Johnsie Kingrea
12.09.2012
There's no way it's more then $1000. I'm guessing $800. I'm basing this off the fact that the DJM T1 is now $1000 and an S4 is $800 - $1000. Feature wise the S4 is truly an all in one where as this is aimed at timecode users and lacks 4 channel fader/eq. I would love to see a send/return function for my RMX 1000.

No idea what the M means beside the FX.
Leeanna Ayla
12.09.2012
Originally Posted by rdej47
Flip switches could be phono/line switches. Anyone curious as to what that flux mode is in one of the screen shots? There's a USB Hub, i'm not sure where but Phil Morse over at Digital DJ Tips said its in a screen cap somewhere.
Yeah I deleted my post because i wasn't believeing. :0
Johnsie Kingrea
12.09.2012
Flip switches could be phono/line switches. Anyone curious as to what that flux mode is in one of the screen shots? There's a USB Hub, i'm not sure where but Phil Morse over at Digital DJ Tips said its in a screen cap somewhere.
Shonda Soulier
12.09.2012
Originally Posted by Ed Paris
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Lashay Walchak
12.09.2012
Originally Posted by mwn11
Wonder if they will do a 4 deck version. Seems strange to have 4 channels but only 2 sets of faders and eq's
It really does get tricky at times. I've got my S2 mapped in this fashion and it can be confusing. Are the two "tempo +/-" looking buttons above the RGB pads deck a/c and b/d focus for the mixer controls?

There was an easier solution to this. Could have used endless encoders with LED rings around the knobs to so when you swap controls you don't have to worry about "soft takeover", would've looked cooler too.
Arla Seniw
12.09.2012
Looks like the small ones are just the gain then?
Leeanna Ayla
12.09.2012
Some screen caps



Clearly five knobs, filter, 3 EQ and gain. If it's midi mappable and you like auto gain it could be a xone type EQ.



Definitely new software update coming.



A/C cues



Flip switches on the top



Bass-o-matic, but what's the M? Are we going to be able to buy FX groups?



Looks as tall as a standard mixer and has a sound card. My money is on A6 or similiar.





Laser slicer








Channel meters for C/D in the center



Looking at the cables and how they're wrapped makes me believe there will be a USB hub.





Lashay Walchak
12.09.2012
Originally Posted by kevz718
I assumed hotcues / sampler triggers?
Yeah, went back and watched the video again and thought hot-cues too. I'd bet the + 2 part refers to volume knobs for C & D, kinda like how they called the S2 2.1 channel with a combined volume knob for the sample decks. I can kind of see their reasoning here as a lot of people that are going to utilize the Remix decks don't really need EQ control as the Remix deck slots have individual volume control, it's indirectly like EQ'ing.
Rolanda Clodfelder
12.09.2012
Originally Posted by mwn11
Wonder if they will do a 4 deck version. Seems strange to have 4 channels but only 2 sets of faders and eq's
Looks to me like a savage 2 deck + 2 sample deck mixer... encoders above what I'm guessing are sample slots down each side which would be equally at home driving 2 extra channels. It would make sense though so as not to need 8 faders per sample deck if you dont have an F1.

For now I'll hold off and see what Behringer have up their sleeve with the CMD's if I decide to stay with Ableton, traktor is starting to look far more appealing again though. Fair play to NI for bringing out some really nice modular kit.
Matt Kane
12.09.2012
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Wilson Durrum
12.09.2012
I have been believeing of selling my S2 and going with a mixer with my X1. Will have to wait and see the specs on this.
Cliff Lohman
12.09.2012
Originally Posted by DJ Abide
I'd be surprised if this retails for over $600. Let's hope that this new version of Traktor will include map-able Remix Decks! Little confused about what the RGB buttons on the sides are for? FX units on? Deck Focus?
I assumed hotcues / sampler triggers?
Rosina Steinkuehler
12.09.2012
Now that NI is entering the mixer market it might be harder and harder to get competitor mixers certified. Thinking of the DB4 here. Sigh.

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