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New NI controller!
Posted on: 12.09.2012 by Marquetta Sarnie
Pic from FB, more info tomorrow!
Johnsie Kingrea
21.09.2012
Originally Posted by nestaselect
They will on Oct 1st.
Source?
Virgie Igler
21.09.2012		I would definitely sell my Ecler nuo 2 for this. I only bought it to have a mixer I could easily transport. If this is two channels with built in remix decks and it is analog with scratch built-in i'm sold. That is unless it's $1200... I'll fork over $700 or thereabouts.
Concetta Delorie
21.09.2012
Originally Posted by 0.0
Has NI actually published anything that confirms this yet?
They will on Oct 1st.
Nancey Inderlied
21.09.2012
Originally Posted by MyUsername
DUUUDE, traktor EQ and effects Vs. standalone mixer EQ and effects is a huuge difference.

And standalone wich it more than likely is will just add to the flexability without removing features. Else we'd just have an S2 without jogs on our hands.

We want something to mix the outcoming audio from traktor with and that has tight midi intigration. Not a full midi controller. If that makes sense

Just my take on this.
Uhh, actually, if NI are making the DSP, theres not going to be much of a difference between discrete mixing and internal mixing in Traktor, given that the designers and manufacturers are exactly the same. I highly doubt NI are going to waste a ton of money designing something they already have. Then again, theyre already wasting a ton of resources making this a fucking mixer for software, so I dunno...
Alla Bluemke
21.09.2012		I just like longer faders cause its smoother and easier to fade. I mean I've used the s2 and s4 faders and if they are anything like that I am disappointed. I just don't like those faders.
Dierdre Stillabower
21.09.2012
Originally Posted by nestaselect
Just to clear up the confusion...

1. It IS an analog mixer that will accept turntables, CDJs, etc. just as an other analog mixer.

Has NI actually published anything that confirms this yet?
Concetta Delorie
21.09.2012
Originally Posted by ParisCreative
It's possible it could be a stand alone, but I am sure you would lose a ton of features. And really why would you want a Traktor mixer and not bind that with Traktor software?
Just to clear up the confusion...

1. It IS an analog mixer that will accept turntables, CDJs, etc. just as an other analog mixer.

2. It IS a MIDI controller as well (Basically the NI version of the Rane 62)

3. It IS 4 channel in that it will run audio from all 4 decks in Traktor. Decks C & D are meant to be used as remix decks with F1s. Due to the fact that you have 4 channels within each remix deck, it makes sense to use F1s for those decks since there are 4 volume faders on the F1 itself. Therefore, it doesn't make sense to have 4 volume faders on the mixer itself.

4. It IS NOT a mixer that runs "standalone" a la Stanton SCS.4DJ. There is no Traktor software inside of the mixer and you cannot run Traktor without a computer. If there is no computer is connected, it will work just like any other analog DJ mixer.

I hope this helps to clear up the "Standalone" vs. "Standalone" debate.
Nereida Jasnoch
21.09.2012
Originally Posted by ParisCreative
It's possible it could be a stand alone, but I am sure you would lose a ton of features. And really why would you want a Traktor mixer and not bind that with Traktor software?
DUUUDE, traktor EQ and effects Vs. standalone mixer EQ and effects is a huuge difference.

And standalone wich it more than likely is will just add to the flexability without removing features. Else we'd just have an S2 without jogs on our hands.

We want something to mix the outcoming audio from traktor with and that has tight midi intigration. Not a full midi controller. If that makes sense

Just my take on this.
Jamila Citino
21.09.2012		It's possible it could be a stand alone, but I am sure you would lose a ton of features. And really why would you want a Traktor mixer and not bind that with Traktor software?
Erich Vallabhaneni
21.09.2012		im pretty excited about this now if it can be stand alone. If it needs to be hooked up to a computer then meh
Concetta Delorie
21.09.2012
Originally Posted by Abyrne7
I would like to see NI focus more on what they have already. Including better build quality and advanced jogwheel technology!
Who says they aren't?
Lisa Lochotzki
21.09.2012		bug free software would be fine too
Mac Fly
21.09.2012		I would like to see NI focus more on what they have already. Including better build quality and advanced jogwheel technology!
Kellie Myrum
21.09.2012		It's a battle mixer so faders are meant for fast cutting...
Brunilda Kora
21.09.2012		What's the deal with people wanting long faders? Just fade up or down more slowly???
Ming Devis
20.09.2012		Four channel with longer faders please NI
Valeri Millstein
20.09.2012		Seems really "meh" a four channel version would be great though. Even then, modular would be the way to go. I would love to see something like a Behringer MM1 with a sound card. I still just want a midi mixer to put in between my X1 and future F1.
Concetta Delorie
20.09.2012
Originally Posted by Rukks
Cue sends look to be the lowest set of circular buttons above the upfaders no the mixer. I just see a 3 letter word looking like cue...don't feel like enhancing it at the moment, someone will eventually
Nope. The cue section is in the middle. Between the EQs and below the track scroll knob.
Lang Abriel
20.09.2012		Cue sends look to be the lowest set of circular buttons above the upfaders no the mixer. I just see a 3 letter word looking like cue...don't feel like enhancing it at the moment, someone will eventually
Desire Piedmont
20.09.2012
Originally Posted by photojojo
These guys may never be DMC competitors, but they want emulate them as much as possible. I believe NI nailed it for that market.
For sure. I'll be onto one of these to stick next to my S4 which doesn't do what I most like to do well - scratch and juggle.

The small cross fader won't be a problem because it will be set to cut and not fade anyway.
Leeanna Ayla
20.09.2012
Originally Posted by rdej47
you'd figure this would be against NDA's to post this.
Craze has a history of posting controlled leaks, hints, clues or whatever you want to call it of NI products.

Originally Posted by deckard26354

Underwhelming for, if I can be so blunt. The majority of DJ's out there. A niche product? or am I overstepping my 'Meh' ness?
hip hop/top 40 DJ's are way more the majority in at least the US. These guys may never be DMC competitors, but they want emulate them as much as possible. I believe NI nailed it for that market.
Johnetta Olewine
20.09.2012
Originally Posted by Shishdisma
Uhh... Where're the cue switches?
I'm sure NI haven't left out a cue section.
Nancey Inderlied
20.09.2012
Originally Posted by deckard26354
Potatoes, Pat'A'toes

I'm still not sure what market this is aimed at? If it's correct the option of button select for the other 2 channels (4 channel's) is a definite no no for me, always want a physical visual aid to volume levels. Is this aimed purely at the DMC style of mixing?
Again, at the moment without more information it's certainly 'not' on my wishlist.
More like Potatoes, Potatoes that do something completely different. Hot cues trigger hot cues, cue sends make the sound come out of the headphones. Unless that LCD looking thing above each fader is a tape-assisted switch...
Pilar Maure
20.09.2012
Originally Posted by Shishdisma
Cue switches, not hot cue triggers. The cue bus sends.
Potatoes, Pat'A'toes

I'm still not sure what market this is aimed at? If it's correct the option of button select for the other 2 channels (4 channel's) is a definite no no for me, always want a physical visual aid to volume levels. Is this aimed purely at the DMC style of mixing?
Again, at the moment without more information it's certainly 'not' on my wishlist.
Nancey Inderlied
20.09.2012		Cue switches, not hot cue triggers. The cue bus sends.
Pilar Maure
20.09.2012		I'm presuming they are the four buttons located on the left and right lower section of the mixer?
Nancey Inderlied
20.09.2012		Uhh... Where're the cue switches?
Johnsie Kingrea
19.09.2012		I'm hoping this means we're getting news in the next couple days.
Pilar Maure
19.09.2012		So basically it's a DMC style mixer with short throws and cue trigger's and rotary's for I presume the sample slots?

Underwhelming for, if I can be so blunt. The majority of DJ's out there. A niche product? or am I overstepping my 'Meh' ness?

Plus erm, believe the NDA has been ripped apart here? In trouble someone??
Lashay Walchak
19.09.2012		Traktor is clearly doing something right if all the great DMC champs are all over their product. Craze, A-Trak, Shiftee, and Unkut. Those faders appear to be no different from the S4/S2, I'm sure Innofader will be all over nice upgrades almost immediately.
Johnsie Kingrea
19.09.2012		Wonder if we'll get some news soon, you'd figure this would be against NDA's to post this. According to his twitter he believes it'll replace his 909. Pretty sick if you ask me.
Alla Bluemke
19.09.2012		Faders def look very short to me. Plus god I really hate the gloss finish.
Johnetta Olewine
19.09.2012		Check it out a craze's instagram. Looks like a traktor rane 62 to me... https://mobile.twitter.com/CRAZEARON...67676912406529

Yong Aptekar
18.09.2012
Originally Posted by Saurus
You haven't payed very close attention to NI's price vs build quality.... have you? If they were to build something even middle-high end, it'd be just as expensive as pio.
Saurus, how is it possible that EVERY post you make bashes NIs build quality? Mellow out bro.

My guess, December release. Christmas buying rules the economy. Considering if I want one of these. Very nice me believes.
Eloy Kiepke
18.09.2012
Originally Posted by MyUsername
It won't have the pioneer logo on it, so that must shave a few 100s of price
You haven't payed very close attention to NI's price vs build quality.... have you? If they were to build something even middle-high end, it'd be just as expensive as pio.
Erich Vallabhaneni
19.09.2012		haha yeah, you can pretty much set your watch by apple
Leeanna Ayla
19.09.2012
Originally Posted by Otacon
I believe a december release would be a good idea. Give alot of people something to spend that holiday cash on and what not
And it follows in line with past history. NI is almost as predictable as Apple in that sense.
Erich Vallabhaneni
19.09.2012		I believe a december release would be a good idea. Give alot of people something to spend that holiday cash on and what not
Nedra Fresneda
18.09.2012		^This, my guess is a few days after Maschine MKII hits the shelves (oct 1st)
Concetta Delorie
18.09.2012
Originally Posted by rdej47
Who wants to take a guess at when this thing will be officially announced?
It will be announced in October and released in December or January.

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