Is DJForums down?

Is DJForums down?
Posted on: 27.09.2011 by Halley Wurzer
Site hasn't loaded for me in like a week???
Verona Candia
26.11.2011
The Djcommunity guy should just sell his site to someone who will be willing to make it work.... It would be a shame to lose everything that he built.
Belle Tufnell
26.11.2011
Originally Posted by mostapha
I'm going to miss Scary G's epic advice thread
+ 1

And, also how to get girls as a DJ. LOL. Classic material.
Jenni Philippsen
25.11.2011
Originally Posted by Xonetacular
Someone already beat you to it, I don't know if it will take off though but the layout is decent. They made the mistake of starting off with like 30 sub community s though.
Darn, I was actually considering it to, considering I have tons of experience in web design and vbulletin. No doubt I probably would have a hell of a time finding an available .com domain. Do you happen to know if he used vbulletin or phpbb?
Romelia Stankard
25.11.2011
Originally Posted by Kayzee
Woah I should take advantage of my web developing skills and start a Dj community I got the know how and everything Hmm.
Someone already beat you to it, I don't know if it will take off though but the layout is decent. They made the mistake of starting off with like 30 sub community s though.
Brinda Tidrick
25.11.2011
Shame to lose it 2400 posts in
Jenni Philippsen
25.11.2011
Woah I should take advantage of my web developing skills and start a Dj community I got the know how and everything Hmm.
Dorie Scelzo
25.11.2011
Originally Posted by Steeevo
I dont even believe if the site gets back up and running people arnt gonna go back, all that info was the main reason people kept joining, just believe how much time people spent making guides. and all the the mods that people posted all gone cos the people running the site are twats and didnt have a backup. what a load of dickheads.

and dont say to us get a life its only a community , i only visit community s when i need help with things. and yes they are a bunch of dickheads and everyone that ever posted anything worthwhile and time consuming will agree with me
Six thousand posts and about ten thousand rep points disagree with you here. If/when the site goes back up, I'll buy a year of VIP out of principle.

They made the same mistake that over 99% of computer users make: not having good enough backups. That's not a big deal compared to the camaraderie and information available there, and the information wasn't limited to the posts
nayit ruiz jaramillo
25.11.2011
Originally Posted by oliosky
thats because DJTT has a pg13 rating
No its because we don't insult people. Simple.
Vanna Hochstadt
24.11.2011
DJF is as dead as a doorknob, lol. Too bad, didn't really visit it that much in the past year as I feel it went downhill (or maybe that's just me). Though I must give credit where credit is due, DJF really taught me the ropes of DJing... to the point where today I have played my fair share of very respectable gigs with world class DJ's. Probably wouldn't be the case without DJF, so thanks for that!

That being said, even if DJF went back up, I probably wouldn't be an active contributor, maybe just a post here and there.
Palma Hanslip
24.11.2011
When i'm looking for a new community i tend to look at how many members/posts/active members there are. There is nothing worse than signing up to a new community and it being dead!

So i believe if we have to start with little members it will struggle for a bit. Maybe the name 'djcommunity s' will help it out again though. I know i will certainly go back (member of 4 years) just because i know it can be helpful if you ignore the n00b threads and the spammers.
Tesha Freudenstein
24.11.2011
Originally Posted by mbthegreat
The threads are all gone, but I really don't see why the site isn't already back up. Setting up a community is not at all difficult or time consuming.
damn you basementdwelling no-goods

j/k btw
Keli Muennink
24.11.2011
I dont even believe if the site gets back up and running people arnt gonna go back, all that info was the main reason people kept joining, just believe how much time people spent making guides. and all the the mods that people posted all gone cos the people running the site are twats and didnt have a backup. what a load of dickheads.

and dont say to us get a life its only a community , i only visit community s when i need help with things. and yes they are a bunch of dickheads and everyone that ever posted anything worthwhile and time consuming will agree with me
Lina Rawie
23.11.2011
Originally Posted by Karlos Santos
I'm not muck raking here but, what did Mods say "STFU" about/to/for..?
Just interested as thats quite a statement and obviously it bothers you.
Do you wanna share.
I should say that I believe most of the mods on DJF were sound, but in some of the threads started by members asking about the periods of down time, certain mods spoke to people like dirt IMO. Those that offered help were ignored.

I messed around a bit on DJF and made the odd thread to wind people up, but in general I believe I made some good contributions to the site. I wrote guides. I organised a couple of the bigger battles. I was a member for over 6 years and I was in the top 10 posters on the site. I was a mod for a while. I asked one of the admins why they didn't just make a pinned thread letting people know what's going on with the site and I was ignored. Now I'm not saying that I deserved special attention over anyone else, but their lack of responses - overall I mean - annoyed me.

I guess I just don't agree with the way they did certain things. To me, the life of a community is the members, not the backbone of the site - that's just there out of necessity. As such, you should do what you can - within reason - to keep the majority of your members happy, especially when all that requires is for you to be honest and to tell people what's going on.
Latoria Kavulich
23.11.2011
and because insulting someone is likely to get you in schtook
Leeanna Ayla
23.11.2011
Originally Posted by oliosky
thats because DJTT has a pg13 rating
More like a 1980's R rating
Johnetta Olewine
23.11.2011
thats because DJTT has a pg13 rating
Latoria Kavulich
23.11.2011
we would never tell a member to "STFU"
nayit ruiz jaramillo
23.11.2011
Originally Posted by DJSigma
If I go there and there's already posts from mods saying "STFU!" again, then that'll be it for me. They need to be more clear and open about what they're doing if they want people to stick around and start supporting the site financially again.
I'm not muck raking here but, what did Mods say "STFU" about/to/for..?
Just interested as thats quite a statement and obviously it bothers you.
Do you wanna share.
Ladonna Schlender
23.11.2011
News just in from Stripe...

"We are working on getting it back up quickly. One of the other admins may have an older db save that will be back loaded if available. Main focus at the moment is getting the site online".
Lina Rawie
23.11.2011
Originally Posted by Allensmusic
I feel they are a day late and a dollar short. I saw many people in the last year or so offer money, time, services, IT help, etc and everyone was told not to worry, deal with it, they have it under control, it is just a server problem, they are taking care of it.
well, they didnt take care of it and it died.
they can start a new one, but it would have been a lot easier to have saved the old one months ago instead of waiting until it was aa total loss. even a few weeks ago everything was still available on google archives, but I believe that is gone now

R.I.P. djf
All of the post and member data is stored in an SQL database. The only way to get a backup of that is to make one yourself and obviously it's too late for that now. If they have an older backup, they can at least restore the site to the point that the backup was made so only the threads and posts made, and the members that signed up after the backup was made, would be lost.

They could use Google's archive to literally copy and paste the contents of archived tutorials and stuff over to new threads on the new community , but that's about as far as it goes.

In the end, I don't believe it'll be that bad. It's gonna seem weird visiting the site when there's virtually no threads there and you're member number 10 or whatever, but it'll soon fill up again. They can use the latest version of the community software and there's no excuse for not keeping it up to date. They can give the site a more modern look and implement new features that weren't previously possible. I would rather they do that than just resurrect the old site using a backup from 2 years ago or whatever.

Then it's just a matter of building up member confidence. If I go there and there's already posts from mods saying "STFU!" again, then that'll be it for me. They need to be more clear and open about what they're doing if they want people to stick around and start supporting the site financially again.

Originally Posted by mbthegreat
I'm talking about literally 30 minutes work.
Nonsense. You can't build a decent community in "literally 30 minutes". When the community I co-run was moved to a different host and was down for a few days, we set up a temporary community using Proboards for people to use while the main site was down and we knocked that up in 30 minutes or so, but it was a barebones effort that we just put up so people had somewhere to meet up and chat.
Cami Loretdemola
23.11.2011
I'm talking about literally 30 minutes work.
Eulah Klemz
23.11.2011
Originally Posted by mbthegreat
The threads are all gone, but I really don't see why the site isn't already back up. Setting up a community is not at all difficult or time consuming.
they have families and jobs. they should have it going in a few months. you really need to find better things to do with your time....
Cami Loretdemola
23.11.2011
The threads are all gone, but I really don't see why the site isn't already back up. Setting up a community is not at all difficult or time consuming.
Eulah Klemz
23.11.2011
I loved searching DJF for info.
they had threads for everything, and years worth of knowledge.
Rena Estabrook
23.11.2011
Originally Posted by Allensmusic
I feel they are a day late and a dollar short. I saw many people in the last year or so offer money, time, services, IT help, etc and everyone was told not to worry, deal with it, they have it under control, it is just a server problem, they are taking care of it.
well, they didnt take care of it and it died.
they can start a new one, but it would have been a lot easier to have saved the old one months ago instead of waiting until it was aa total loss. even a few weeks ago everything was still available on google archives, but I believe that is gone now

R.I.P. djf
Without the ability to search for good technical input from the experienced members, the site is kinda useless. At least for my needs.
Tesha Freudenstein
23.11.2011
Originally Posted by Steeevo
i just hope all the great information hasnt been lost, i no i spent alot of time on there researching what to buy when i started and had loads of good info at the touch of a button.

also deinfamous stop posting and get mixing we have a battle to get under way and your late
it's seems like it's lost. they may be able to rebuild the UI but the content that was within the database should be lost.
Keli Muennink
23.11.2011
i just hope all the great information hasnt been lost, i no i spent alot of time on there researching what to buy when i started and had loads of good info at the touch of a button.

also deinfamous stop posting and get mixing we have a battle to get under way and your late
Eulah Klemz
23.11.2011
I feel they are a day late and a dollar short. I saw many people in the last year or so offer money, time, services, IT help, etc and everyone was told not to worry, deal with it, they have it under control, it is just a server problem, they are taking care of it.
well, they didnt take care of it and it died.
they can start a new one, but it would have been a lot easier to have saved the old one months ago instead of waiting until it was aa total loss. even a few weeks ago everything was still available on google archives, but I believe that is gone now

R.I.P. djf
Tesha Freudenstein
23.11.2011
Originally Posted by Capitan
A bit more from D.j. Forns (Stripe) from the Facebook page...

"we own the domains, the name will be the same. As far as the tutorials and articles from the main page. I have those here as usually I was the one publishing those.

Archive.org doesnt spider through sql databases. Unfortunately everything I have, they do. Also using the rebuild opportunity to update the look of everything. This should be a good thing at least. We are still combing through personal hard drives to see if there is any prior sql saves.

Also, I would like to personally say thank you for the support. Having this happen was almost like losing a good friend.

The community s are more than just messages and threads. Its about a community. Yes it royally sucks that this happens, but you live an learn. We can make it better this time round.

DJF started with the vision of a few people, the rebuild of djf will be the vision of the community.

I did have an extensive to do list with what some people had thought would be good ideas for the site. Those will be listened to. Also hoping this go round to finally get some of our prior visions accomplished.

I want to say thank you all again, as your support is what makes the site what it is. I am trying to time my last 5 free vacation days for the year with the finalization of the server load. I am hoping it will work out with the timing. Will keep you all posted, and once again thank you".
well s*** i feel bad now but cool i guess that they are working on it.
Ladonna Schlender
23.11.2011
A bit more from D.j. Forns (Stripe) from the Facebook page...

"we own the domains, the name will be the same. As far as the tutorials and articles from the main page. I have those here as usually I was the one publishing those.

Archive.org doesnt spider through sql databases. Unfortunately everything I have, they do. Also using the rebuild opportunity to update the look of everything. This should be a good thing at least. We are still combing through personal hard drives to see if there is any prior sql saves.

Also, I would like to personally say thank you for the support. Having this happen was almost like losing a good friend.

The community s are more than just messages and threads. Its about a community. Yes it royally sucks that this happens, but you live an learn. We can make it better this time round.

DJF started with the vision of a few people, the rebuild of djf will be the vision of the community.

I did have an extensive to do list with what some people had thought would be good ideas for the site. Those will be listened to. Also hoping this go round to finally get some of our prior visions accomplished.

I want to say thank you all again, as your support is what makes the site what it is. I am trying to time my last 5 free vacation days for the year with the finalization of the server load. I am hoping it will work out with the timing. Will keep you all posted, and once again thank you".
Tesha Freudenstein
23.11.2011
Originally Posted by Allensmusic
ok, your right. we should be able to have outside lives. I for one spend a lot of time working at a omputer and a community is a nice break when I need it.
my argument is, had they actually fixed it, it wouldnt be gone now.
when the small outages came, they said deal with it. had they fixed it then, they wouldnt be offline now.
if they didnt want it or have time for it, they coulda given it to someone that cared and did have time for it.
it is just a waste
this. you know i appreciate the work that has been put into making DJF to what it is/was but take DJTT as an example. they get a bunch of new members from another community and actually ask them for new sections to accommodate these new members. we asked DJF for something as simple as a new emoticon which was discussed in a long thread and hasn't been realized up until now.
Eulah Klemz
23.11.2011
Originally Posted by Deinfamous
I mean..I was one of those people saying something along those lines.

Don't get me wrong, being able to get online to speak to someone about djing, music or something related is great and all, but there is more to life than just wasting away in front of a comp all day on a community . Thats just me though.....

For the DJTT community, thanks for welcoming us former DJF people and thanks for expanding the community a little bit.
ok, your right. we should be able to have outside lives. I for one spend a lot of time working at a omputer and a community is a nice break when I need it.
my argument is, had they actually fixed it, it wouldnt be gone now.
when the small outages came, they said deal with it. had they fixed it then, they wouldnt be offline now.
if they didnt want it or have time for it, they coulda given it to someone that cared and did have time for it.
it is just a waste
Tesha Freudenstein
23.11.2011
Originally Posted by Deinfamous
I mean..I was one of those people saying something along those lines.

Don't get me wrong, being able to get online to speak to someone about djing, music or something related is great and all, but there is more to life than just wasting away in front of a comp all day on a community . Thats just me though.....
that is a perfectly resonable standpoint but when i am signing up for a community i expect to be able to connect to those people at any given time. for example i want to buy some new gear but want some hands on experience reviews from others and get immediat feedback only to find out the community is down once again and i have to wait a week until it's up again.
and just because people are complaining about it does not mean that they dwell in front of the computer all day to post on the community . for most of them it means that they enjoy being there and i can totally understand the frustration of some people after a week trying to visit the site only to recieve our infamous "database error".
Marilee Drinnen
23.11.2011
Originally Posted by Era 7
and it saddens me that when people ask why the community out of nowhere is down for a week or so you get something along the lines of "don't you have a life and cannot do anything productive during the downtime instead of whining about it?" as an aswer.
I mean..I was one of those people saying something along those lines.

Don't get me wrong, being able to get online to speak to someone about djing, music or something related is great and all, but there is more to life than just wasting away in front of a comp all day on a community . Thats just me though.....

For the DJTT community, thanks for welcoming us former DJF people and thanks for expanding the community a little bit.
Osvaldo Newhall
24.11.2011
Originally Posted by knifey
Im a boss around here. dont ask for stuff, i'll deny it. just a heads up. now get out.
Lina Rawie
24.11.2011
Originally Posted by Era 7
i could understand the arguements brought up like the owners having jobs and and children and all that yadda yadda but imo if you run a website you are responsible for it. do it or let it die.
Those arguments were bullshit. If they'd said that after a week, fine. After a month, well, OK. But the site has been up and down for a year or so. There's several admins and loads of mods there and not one of them could have sorted something out in a year because they were too busy with jobs and families? Nah. Nobody wanted to pull their finger out and actually sort it.

Many people paid for accounts on DJF, either through VIP accounts or vendor accounts, so the "the site is free so STFU" arguments don't work either and even if they did, that's not the way you talk to people who are regular visitors to your community .

It seemed to me that it had reached the point where nobody gave a fuck. Some of those guys had decent jobs in IT, yet nobody has a backup of the site? They couldn't sort out a new host in a year? They couldn't create a pinned thread on DJF letting people know the situation, instead of telling people to STFU when they asked what's going on? They couldn't keep people better updated about the site down time via Twitter, Facebook and community s like this one?
Tesha Freudenstein
23.11.2011
that was my concern with DJF as well. i could understand the arguements brought up like the owners having jobs and and children and all that yadda yadda but imo if you run a website you are responsible for it. do it or let it die.

and it saddens me that when people ask why the community out of nowhere is down for a week or so you get something along the lines of "don't you have a life and cannot do anything productive during the downtime instead of whining about it?" as an aswer.
Nick Kingsley
23.11.2011
I just never understood why the mods were so hostile about it...

If the site is down for anything longer than a few hours people notice, and there is obviously a problem. Sure its probably annoying to get asked, but as a moderator or site owner I believe you have a responsibility to at least make announcements or address the situation in some way. Not just insta lock every thread asking and throwing your weight around.

On another note, I work with hosting and web based projects for my 9-5. I have never, EVER heard of the problems described by djf staff for the downtime. Something doesn't add up, but that's just my personal opinion.
nayit ruiz jaramillo
23.11.2011
Originally Posted by knifey
Last couple times it went down there was an argument in the OT community that mods dont have to explain crap to members because we arnt paying for anything. I believe any explanation they would give would be in a thread that ends up on page 4 in 15mins so no would see it. Stickies were brought up and using FB but they must be stressed out or something....
That is the shittiest thing ive ever read about Mods and a community (i dont mean what you wrote, i mean what the Mods said).

If DJTT went down I know for a FACT that all the mods would be concerned and they would team up 'outside' the community to make sure that information was made available to the members if and when it could be.

No-one is paying for anything around here. Theres just a moral obligation or s personal duty to do the right thing.

Are there any DJF Mods on DJTT ..? Show of hands !!!
Liberty Huson
23.11.2011
http://web.archive.org/web/201005281...ms.com/community s/

Isn't that just bittersweet... It's archived, but you can't get to the actual posts...

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