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Xone: DB4- the official unofficial thread
Posted on: 18.10.2011 by Romelia Stankard
(former thread title Xone: DB4- convince me not to sell off my possessions and drain my bank account)


I mean it's just a mixer, nothing I should sell my S4 and some other expensive possessions for and drain my bank account completely for... right?

I am having a hard time with this decision. I know it won't make me a better DJ, yet it gives me the urge to make irrational spending decisions. Please talk me out of it.
Romelia Stankard
24.03.2012
Originally Posted by MrPopinjay
I feel that the DB4 is an exception though- if you worked those 4 brilliant effects units into your routine I could totally understand lugging it about and using it alone with a laptop and ableton. Maybe a launchpad as well.

I certainly wouldn't bother if I were going to be using turntables/CD players though, too much hassle setting up.
I just got back from Ultra and I'm pretty certain Dubfire was using his, his set was absolutely incredible.



Look at that grin, he definitely had a DB4 up there. I could hear the DB4 reverbs and delays he was using and it sounded sick.
Tatum Ansaldo
22.03.2012		I would be awesome if you could route a channel's output back into another channel and chain the FX units...
Kiyoko Wellisch
22.03.2012		I feel that the DB4 is an exception though- if you worked those 4 brilliant effects units into your routine I could totally understand lugging it about and using it alone with a laptop and ableton. Maybe a launchpad as well.

I certainly wouldn't bother if I were going to be using turntables/CD players though, too much hassle setting up.
Dorie Scelzo
22.03.2012
Originally Posted by Hoodless
Only problem being is the DB4 is double the price..
It's also twice the machine that the S4 is.

Originally Posted by MrPopinjay
That's true but I was replying to some fellows statement that the DB4 is a little pointless as you won't see it in a typical club install. Solution is just to bring yours with you.
I actually agree with him. As long as the mixer isn't trash, I'd rather use almost anything they have than bring a mixer unless the booth was big enough to have 2 full DJ setups. If the mixer actually is trash
Kiyoko Wellisch
22.03.2012		That's true but I was replying to some fellows statement that the DB4 is a little pointless as you won't see it in a typical club install. Solution is just to bring yours with you.
Dione Haimes
22.03.2012
Originally Posted by MrPopinjay
Comes with its own bag? Cool

I'd certainly go for an DB4 over a S4 for a mobile setup.
Only problem being is the DB4 is double the price..
Kiyoko Wellisch
22.03.2012		Comes with its own bag? Cool

I'd certainly go for an DB4 over a S4 for a mobile setup.
Shaniqua Tisa
22.03.2012
Originally Posted by mostapha
Wait, is that a USB goose neck light?

Damn. Props. Finally, a reason for mixers to have USB ports
Romelia Stankard
22.03.2012		Honestly the DB4 would be less of a pain to bring to a club than an S4. It is light, smaller footprint, and comes with a nice padded shoulder bag.
Kiyoko Wellisch
22.03.2012		What do you mean Savour? If you really wanted to you could lug a DB4 to shows, it's not that heavy
Carmina Buttweiler
22.03.2012
Originally Posted by Jack Rabid
You can get a midifighter for around $100-$200 and have even more fun with the gear you already have?
If you play out like me, wasting your money on things like this is pointless - you'll rarely come across it in a club set-up - all the magic you learn at home will be wasted.

At least with your S4 you can take it shows etc. Invest the money into other things, like promotional material to further your career.

If you don't play out...then yes, sell your parents if you need to and buy this badboy - it is divine.
Tatum Ansaldo
22.03.2012		wow, is that port powered?
Dorie Scelzo
22.03.2012		Wait, is that a USB goose neck light?

Damn. Props. Finally, a reason for mixers to have USB ports…………
Shaniqua Tisa
21.03.2012		I'm in love.
Cliff Lohman
20.03.2012
Originally Posted by JDFS
Does the Delay FX have a kind of Tape Delay? Or something like the Ramp Delay in Traktor? It would be really great to hear such crazy delays!
Actually just listened to tape delay in traktor..if i use db4 looper and just decrease to a micro loop, it sounds the same as tape delay,,
Larae Knifong
20.03.2012
Originally Posted by Xonetacular
36 pages for me if you change the default posts per page, still pretty good.

The new firmware is dope, not sure if I would really want to control it with an ipad but whatever works. I ditched my ipad/traktor fx setup when I got the xone.
I still use an iPad on stage to be able to move away from behind the table to interact with the crowd. Also, my idea of integrating an iPad could allow to use 2 or more FX at the same time with multi-touch and motion capablilities... i guess like a wireless midi fighter 3D.

...Oh yah! Cudos on your rotary idea.
Cliff Lohman
20.03.2012		It would be great if the fx parameter names were displayed on the lcd screen somehow.. Theres so many great fx but sometimes i forget the parameters.. For example, if i choose masif delay, the lcd screen would show me that
Exp will control feedback
Adj will control freq
Time will control time

Obviously delay is easy to remember but the res, mod and dmg r where i could use the hints..
Larae Knifong
20.03.2012		Hey! Will it still fit in the bag the DB4 came in?

Originally Posted by D@VE!
So it founds out that the DECKSAVER for the djm800/XONE:92 Fits the XONE: DB4 / XONE: DB2 according to DECKSAVER's :

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?f...type=1&theater



So after receiving the humbling Allen & Heath DB-4 late last week, we made a quick discovery. Our 12” Pro Mixer cover; part code DS-PC-DJM800 actually fits the DB-4 and DB-2 perfectly. As you well know our 12” Pro Mixer cover is one our founding covers originally designed for the DJM-800, however fits a range of mixers; Allen & Heath XONE DB-2, DB-4, 62, ,92 - Pioneer DJM-500/600/700/800/850 & Denon DN-X1100/1600/1700.
http://www.decksaver.co.uk/shop/arti...S-PC-DJM800%26
Cliff Lohman
20.03.2012
Originally Posted by JDFS
Does the Delay FX have a kind of Tape Delay? Or something like the Ramp Delay in Traktor? It would be really great to hear such crazy delays!
Cant believe of anything thats like ramp or tape delay.. But i do like the db4 pingpong and scatter delays.. If u turn them to a low time like 1/64, it might sound a little like ramp delay..
Basil Forshee
20.03.2012		Does the Delay FX have a kind of Tape Delay? Or something like the Ramp Delay in Traktor? It would be really great to hear such crazy delays!
Lynetta Stanislav
20.03.2012		Just bought a nice black gloss one from ebay.


http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...#ht_2468wt_952
Felipe Rasper
20.03.2012		So it founds out that the DECKSAVER for the djm800/XONE:92 Fits the XONE: DB4 / XONE: DB2 according to DECKSAVER's :

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?f...type=1&theater



So after receiving the humbling Allen & Heath DB-4 late last week, we made a quick discovery. Our 12” Pro Mixer cover; part code DS-PC-DJM800 actually fits the DB-4 and DB-2 perfectly. As you well know our 12” Pro Mixer cover is one our founding covers originally designed for the DJM-800, however fits a range of mixers; Allen & Heath XONE DB-2, DB-4, 62, ,92 - Pioneer DJM-500/600/700/800/850 & Denon DN-X1100/1600/1700.
http://www.decksaver.co.uk/shop/arti...S-PC-DJM800%26
Romelia Stankard
19.03.2012
Originally Posted by Rexx
Wow! It's been a while since I've seen this thread. I just found out about the new firmware. I was playing around with the iLive in the studio and we just got the iPad integrated into our system. I hope something like this can happen on the DB4/2. I would love to be able to control the DB's effects this way. Somehow get the iPad, mac and db to work together as one unit.

(I can't believe this thread hit 72 pages.... just awesome)
36 pages for me if you change the default posts per page, still pretty good.

The new firmware is dope, not sure if I would really want to control it with an ipad but whatever works. I ditched my ipad/traktor fx setup when I got the xone.
Larae Knifong
19.03.2012		Wow! It's been a while since I've seen this thread. I just found out about the new firmware. I was playing around with the iLive in the studio and we just got the iPad integrated into our system. I hope something like this can happen on the DB4/2. I would love to be able to control the DB's effects this way. Somehow get the iPad, mac and db to work together as one unit.

(I can't believe this thread hit 72 pages.... just awesome)
Tatum Ansaldo
19.03.2012
Originally Posted by Xonetacular
as long as it includes cats and space suits
haha, the cat's cool and all but if I find out cool shit that I can do with my favourite toy that's the most important thing!
Romelia Stankard
19.03.2012
Originally Posted by fullenglishpint
+99999999
as long as it includes cats and space suits
Tatum Ansaldo
19.03.2012
Originally Posted by kevz718
can we have another vid of some other crazy undocumented use of db4?
+99999999
Cliff Lohman
20.03.2012		Ditto proaudiostar is great.. Fast drop shipping.. I believe i had mine 2 days after ordering with standard free shipping.

On another note - looks like decksaver just announced that the djm800 12" cover fits the db4.. Lol.. I actually ordered this a month ago when i put 2 and 2 together and figured it would fit. Cant believe it took them over a year to tell ppl about it lol
Romelia Stankard
19.03.2012
Originally Posted by ferluno01
So guys prob gonna make the leap and get me a DB4. For those who have ordered from ProAudioStar what did you guys believe of them? Are they quick on shipping?
yes very quick and they are great
Lita Vavrina
19.03.2012		So guys prob gonna make the leap and get me a DB4. For those who have ordered from ProAudioStar what did you guys believe of them? Are they quick on shipping?
Cliff Lohman
19.03.2012
Originally Posted by mix architekt
bit bash is supposed to sound different relative to the coax and analogue inputs. you can get a 3rd variation by toggling the riaa filters on ch 2/3. tapping on them creates some microphonic like sounds... it's the byproduct of low bit rate quantizer distortion. when the bit rate goes down to super low res, like 4 or 2 bits, the difference between line noise and full audio is marginalized to similar levels. that's also how you can use bit bash to generate noise itself. all these topics are covered in a video i made a while back.


Thnx for confirming.. I get a lil confused with some of the technical stuff sometimes but now i get it. Thats cool that u can basically get a few variations on this fx. I do like the digital input version as it sounds like nice clean noise which was something i missed from the djm.

And thnx for repost of my fave mixer vid ever lol - can we have another vid of some other crazy undocumented use of db4?
Romelia Stankard
19.03.2012		^that video sold me on the DB4
Brant Briski
19.03.2012		bit bash is supposed to sound different relative to the coax and analogue inputs. you can get a 3rd variation by toggling the riaa filters on ch 2/3. tapping on them creates some microphonic like sounds... it's the byproduct of low bit rate quantizer distortion. when the bit rate goes down to super low res, like 4 or 2 bits, the difference between line noise and full audio is marginalized to similar levels. that's also how you can use bit bash to generate noise itself. all these topics are covered in a video i made a while back.



Originally Posted by kevz718
Anybody else have any weird noise issues with the bitbash fx? Seems like its extra noisy when played with matrix on rca input but sounds cleaner on digital input..
Johanna Marckel
18.03.2012		Thats great news
Lynetta Stanislav
18.03.2012		been waiting on these coming out great news.
Felipe Rasper
18.03.2012		So finally the Decksaver for the DB4 / DB2 are coming; as posted to Twitter by Decksaver :

News coming Monday about DB2 & DB4 cover!


I can't wait to get mine !
Cliff Lohman
15.03.2012		Anybody else have any weird noise issues with the bitbash fx? Seems like its extra noisy when played with matrix on rca input but sounds cleaner on digital input..
Hipolito Scionti
15.03.2012
Originally Posted by Rev1911
Fired up the mixer to finally get to spend some time on it after receiving it a week ago and found this.



Wasn't there when I first un-boxed it. Any thoughts? Think I'm going to switch it out for a new one with ProAudioStar. A bit frustrated...
They don't call em Allen and Grief for nothing
Tatum Ansaldo
15.03.2012
Originally Posted by Xonetacular
Everyone gets wireless headphones and can switch between channels. Sounds pretty damn stupid to me to have to dance around listening to music on shitty headphones.
That's the worst thing. The headphones are too quiet and have pretty poor sound quality. I was fine though, I had my HDJ-500s

Originally Posted by mostapha
The only appeal to me–as a dj or a punter–would be for me to listen to completely different music as everyone else.
The other DJ had to play cheese and commercial a lot of the time, so he was switching over to my channel instead. You should have seen the reaction when I played dead prez haha.
Dorie Scelzo
15.03.2012		The only appeal to me–as a dj or a punter–would be for me to listen to completely different music as everyone else.

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