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The Drum & Bass Thread (formally Drum 'n' Bass is dead?)
Posted on: 19.08.2008 by Random X
Every now and than, a musical genres foremost poet or pioneer will come forth claiming the style is dead.

We've already seen it in punk, hip hop, metal, rock and opera already.

Stupidest thing even, that this seems to be some kind of "retro- cycle" that passes along every decade.

With the coming of styles like dubstep amongst others, purists are really keen on claiming that these styles are no derative or subgenre of our beloved DnB.
Better yet, they utter the words "DnB is dead!"

If your own creative impulses can't cope with a style any longer, why claim it is dead in the first place? Couldn't it just evolve into other (sub)styles?
No, kill your idols instead!
There seems to be no better way to start something new, than completely destroy any relations with the past.

How can a genre with high BPM rates be dead, while comparing it to the ever so low BPM rates of the ever so vivid dubstep?
Ofcourse, BPM rates are not a factor in this case, but people listening and enjoying DnB are.
There are still heaps and heaps of bass-heads still jumping their shoes to the sounds of d&b pioneers as Krush, Bukem, Dom & Roland and all others still producing.

Agreed that the old spirit needs to be revived. Still, it's no reason to don the old lass after that much joy she has given us.

Drum and Bass is dead? It seems ever so vibrant as it was in 1996!
Annalisa Shogren
16.04.2013
Originally Posted by Destiny
Talking about Fresh, how the hell did Gold Dust suddenly become a TOP40 tune when it was released about 3 years ago. Has his mind been that corrupted by money? I can't even imagine him being the same guy that once rocked Bad Company...
The original Gold Dust isn't very much like the new (top 40) tune at all.

Tomorrow's Another Day is a decent Netsky tune though, has to be said.
Estrella Rozzo
16.04.2013
I don't know how the commercial side of DnB is faring in the capital of DnB, but here in Belgium it's going on steadily. Literally dozens of raves every weekend with about every DJ not playing in Fabric, etc being booked here. Basically everyone who listened to commercial dubstep went DnB or Trap. And seeing how Trap is only rising slowly here, most of them are DnB minded.

Talking about Fresh, how the hell did Gold Dust suddenly become a TOP40 tune when it was released about 3 years ago. Has his mind been that corrupted by money? I can't even imagine him being the same guy that once rocked Bad Company...

I try not to let the commercial side get to me that much. It's just really annoying that when people see my DJ kit and ask me what I spin, and respond with DnB, that they're way confused that I've nothing of Dj Fresh, Rudimental or even our own flagship Netsky. I believe it's one of the most wrongly understood genres of the moment.

Imma give your song a play & let you know what I believe.
Corrin Penney
16.04.2013
firstly, i have to agree with the general concencus of UKF. Its got potential and I've found some cracking tunes on there but the majority of the audience believes drum & bass is fast dubstep and have little idea of the culture or history embedded deep in dnb.
They usually come off as obnoxious, rude and ignorant. Not really the kinda people im into.

On another note, do you believe the mainstream peak of dnb we heard last year with DJFresh, etc has come / is coming to an end?
Locally the wheat seems to be separating from the chaff quite quickly as new genres emerge and Techno takes all the scene kids.
Weve had quite a lot of dnb evening s start up in the past year and many of them are fading fast as the cash flow dries up.
My own evening has never once strayed into the mainstream, were always in it for the headz, regardless of turnout, and seems to be keeping a strong fan base. I'm hoping it stays that way.

And another thing, heh. I've been doing a fair bit of production of late, exclusively deep/liquid/tech dnb. I figure you guys on this thread are the most likely to enjoy it:
https://soundcloud.com/howitzer/sets/original-productions

Any comments or critique are much obliged.
Nice one.
Marguerite Salsedo
16.04.2013
Well this is disgusting...

Izola Larose
12.04.2013
wow this thread is BIG. new to these community and there so much to read through. DnB was the first step i ever took into the world of EDM and what made me want to try my hand at DJing.

well in the sprite of laziness the way i put together the tunes i get ,outside of people i know and free downloads when i can scrounge them from a producer. is to just listen to live streaming internet radio like bassdrive.com and get in there irc chat and talk to there djs. it lets me request live track ids and listen to how well the tunes mix as well as getting me exposed to tunes i would otherwise have never got a chance to hear.

anyone out there have a comparable list of DnB internet radio station other than bassdrive im always looking to broaden my horizons and get new tunes. also if anyone has links to anything free...

thanks
Sonja Roybal
10.04.2013
I don't even know what UKF is.

Picked up this week:
Fracture - Gangbusters/Better Than Tomorrow - Headz
Prolix/DLR/Silent Witness - Originate/Silence - Trendkill
Andy Pain and Z Connection - Planet EP - Broken Audio
Phil Tangent - More Than You'll Ever Know/Contrition - Commercial Suicide
Hybris - Gravitation EP - Dispatch
Queensway - Run/Healing - BluMarten
Estrella Rozzo
10.04.2013
UKF is a great place for people who listen to the more commercial side of DnB. It's easy accessible and mainstream. Every 2 or so uploads I see a decent tune (like recently Break's Love So True VIP), yet it gets the wrong reception. The comments on UKF are just sad. I don't know why I keep doing it, but it's insta-rage when I do so. It's pretty much the TOP40 of DnB.
And I'm not hating, they (well, he, I guess) uploads some really good tunes aswell, but that's mostly when most DJ's already picked up the tune.

For me there's better channels out there, but it's ok for most people it seems.
Augustine Mitzen
10.04.2013
UKF as a whole is a waste.
Marguerite Salsedo
09.04.2013
Originally Posted by Jayvee
Sooo... What do you guys believe about UKF Drum & Bass?
Honestly, I find most (probably like >90%) of what they post to be soul-less or just 'commercial' (if such a term can be applied to Drum & Bass)... Anyways, my impression of it is that almost none, if any, of the tunes they post are for the true heads.
Alease Fitch
09.04.2013
Sooo... What do you guys believe about UKF Drum & Bass?
Estrella Rozzo
09.04.2013
Recent Upbeats EP (Alone) is really hard. Especially the Fourward Remix. Damn! They are pushing out a lot of quality tunes. Noisia's vision label has a lot of nice releases on their list.

Also really enjoying the Billain single (Blockfield / Boogie). Especially Boogie.

Been trying to put my time into producing again, but I'm still having a really really hard time finding my own sound. Or at least something I'm quite happy about. But I'll get there!
Emelina Chillson
08.04.2013
Where are my fellow DNB Producers at?
Marguerite Salsedo
08.04.2013
And another great track:

Sam KDC & Mr. Smith - Walk the Path
Marguerite Salsedo
07.04.2013
Great tune:
Sub - Tensions
Elijah Loverin
06.04.2013
@Citizen_Insane - Yeah those that you listed were on my list but I didn't want to make my post to long LOL.





I hope these links work lol!
Augustine Mitzen
05.04.2013
those are some sick tunes^
Marguerite Salsedo
04.04.2013
Inside, solid list but you're Missing Technical Itch, The Panacea, Raiden, Machine Code, The Sect... oh man I should probably go through my stuff if it's wanted... not too into much of the newer dark stuff honestly so I'm out of touch with that.

In case anyone hasn't posted about these beauties yet....
Paradox - Scorpius


Overlook - Three Shards
Elijah Loverin
04.04.2013
After reading the majority of this thread I noticed no one mentioned anything from the dark side of DnB which is kind of disappointing . So for anyone wanting to find the more darker and heavier toons of DnB I'll share some with you. I did make a list of the producers/DJs that I like and I have around 130 or so in just the heavy side of DnB. Also should note most of the people I'm listing also dabble into our genres so you will hear these influences in their productions.

The Starting List:
Current Value, Limewax, Lowroller, Syrinx, Peter Kurten, Air J, Gancher, Ruin, Circular Discharge, Nagato, Katharsys, The Teknoist, Lucio De Rimanez, Brainpain, Freqax, C.A.2K, Erre, C-Netik, Fragz!, Counterstrike, Donny, Cooh, Dead Phantoms, Forbidden Society, Deathmachine, Switch Technique, DJ Hidden, Hostage, Suicide, Malicious, Of God, I:Gor, Jakub23.........

I've got a ton more to list but I believe this is a good start if you want to know some more producers feel free to message me or do some digging
Sonja Roybal
26.03.2013
Without going into too much depth, getting non dnb fans into a dnb set has always been an obstacle. Liquid is a good way, but real liquid like Calibre and Mr. Joseph type of shit. I've been playing a lot more footwork and jungle juke trying to break that barrier.
Deloise Pridgett
26.03.2013
At the risk of sounding obvious, If you are into the ;aid back liquidy sound, then have a look at the liquicity channel. Although it is hit and miss, when it hits it hits hard!

Seeing as I am pretty damn new to Djing, and learning with Drum and Bass (learn where the heart lies...), are any of you finding that it is becoming more and more acceptable in 'normal' (as in, playing music you would recognise most of from the radio)clubs? If so, which types are you finding go down well and aren't scaring off some of the dancefloor? I would be really interested to hear you guys with experience's thoughts!

Cheers
Arielle Posso
21.03.2013
I need to watch this thread. So much good drum & bass out there. I love mixing and making drum & bass
Estrella Rozzo
19.03.2013
Why havent I heard of Billain before?

Sonja Roybal
16.03.2013
Lots of great tunes are coming out in the next 2 weeks...

Dub Phizix - Rainy City Music (3/18)
Skeptical - Blue Eyes VIP (3/18)
Eastcolors - Rock Fella (3/18)
Paradox - Zeal (3/18)
Gremlinz and Homemade Weapons - Ruff Age (3/18)
Fracture - Gangbusters (3/25?)
Om Unit and Danny Scrilla - EP on Exit which I can't remember the name of (3/25)

There's more too that are just slipping my mind.
Estrella Rozzo
16.03.2013
Salvaging!

FabricLive 68 by Calibre is really really nice! Always loved Calibre. Apparently his first mix CD aswell.
Estrella Rozzo
13.03.2013
Yeah, picked that one up y'day with my spare paypal $'s.
Sonja Roybal
13.03.2013
Naibu put some free bits on his bandcamp the other day.
Estrella Rozzo
13.03.2013
Infrared, V, Gunaudio, Radius, Nu Directions, ... As Omni said, really easy to miss some really good ones.

Enjoying the FabricLive mix from Calibre right now. And relistening some of Mutt's older releases. That and still rinsing Octane & DLR - Let Me Go (and the Break remix).
Oh, and ofcourse lots of Naibu, damn, love it!
Annalisa Shogren
12.03.2013
Originally Posted by blackavenger
You wouldn't include Fokuz, Med School, or Influenza in with that list? I mean,
I agree with everything on there, but I would DEFINITELY add those few others as well.
It's easy to miss some...

Dread, Virus, V and all the sister labels...
Shad Rametta
12.03.2013
Dispatch recordings
Critical Music
Exit records
spearhead records
shogun audio
CIA records
Samurai Red Seal
Commercial Suicide
Nuirections
im:lTD
Ingredients
Symmetry
Horizons
BMT
Program
You wouldn't include Fokuz, Med School, or Influenza in with that list? I mean,
I agree with everything on there, but I would DEFINITELY add those few others as well.
Estrella Rozzo
11.03.2013
Been listening to some of the older Naibu stuff as recommended. Rly love it
Sonja Roybal
08.03.2013
Horizons has some incredible deals on Naibu material at their site.
Random X
08.03.2013
Originally Posted by Destiny
These last week I've been really digging the next releases:
Naibu - Fall EP
Never heard of Naibu before, but the first track on the EP already left a really good impression on me. The rest of the EP didnt dissapoint.
Love Naibu, his older works are even more spectacular!

Originally Posted by Damien1138
Oh wow, this thread is still going strong! amazing.
Yeah, I believe I have started something in the days of way back.
Corrin Penney
08.03.2013
the DRS LP was amazing, if you like that, definitely pick up the ENEI LP.

The dnb world seems to be mostly about the labels, they are the quality control filter for the rest of us.
I go by:

Dispatch recordings
Critical Music
Exit records
spearhead records
shogun audio
CIA records
Samurai Red Seal
Commercial Suicide
Nuirections
im:lTD
Ingredients
Symmetry
Horizons
BMT
Program

(thats not an exhaustive list)

When I browse, if its not on there or by an artist I recognise, it doesn't even get a listen. Cuts the wheat from the chaff pretty quickly, although I do miss some great music.

But as you guys say, theres literally too much stuff out there to get through.
Estrella Rozzo
08.03.2013
But that DRS LP was huuuuge! I'm not that picky, maybe that's why I find there's so much great music. Makes it harder to choose tunes & get familiarised with them. Should just get a crate of vinyl, some gear & isolate myself!
sinior cliff
08.03.2013
Oh wow, this thread is still going strong! amazing.
Edwina Fagel
07.03.2013
I have hard timing finding great DNB for myself.
Too much really mediocre stuff coming out these days with tons of hype and promo.
Last big thing for me was the DRS LP which was superb and got it on 2x12".
Shad Rametta
07.03.2013
the DnB World is releasing so much amazing stuff that I'm finding it hard to keep up
This.
Shad Rametta
07.03.2013
the DnB World is releasing so much amazing stuff that I'm finding it hard to keep up
This.
Sonja Roybal
07.03.2013
This is what I grabbed:

Fade - Robotic Funk/Tripod/Bring The Madness
EastColors - Strange Talk/I Don't Know Why/I Become Older
Detail - Exhaustion/Resonance
Beastie Respond - Ficticious Nostalgia LP Sampler
Survival and Silent Witness - Into The Wild LP
Seba - Identity LP
Skeptical - Frozen/Static
Overlook/Blocks and Escher - Three Shards/Embers
Ruffhouse - Strangers/The Domino Effect
Paradox - Crate Logic/Scorpius
Danny Scrilla - Shogun/Thorium (Can't remember the EP name)
ASC - Reality Check (Method One Remix)
Mikal - The Chant (Rido Remix)
Estrella Rozzo
07.03.2013
These last week I've been really digging the next releases:

Octane & DLR - Method in the Madness
Let Me Go (Break Remix) is so awesome, and damn that Cometh Horde track is stereo goodness, amen.

SPY - What the Future Holds
Love Hurts & What the Future Holds are amaaaaazing.

Naibu - Fall EP
Never heard of Naibu before, but the first track on the EP already left a really good impression on me. The rest of the EP didnt dissapoint.

Jaydan - Instatiable / Elements
Really strong single there. Really loving the typical Jaydan Jump Up stuff, but this release is so deep & clean.

Ivy Lab - Afterthought & Brat
Frank Carter, need I say more? Lovely, lovely tune Afterthought is.

And there's soooo much more that I can't leave out.

SPY & Kasra - Surface VIP & So Real (Mefjus Remix)
The Upbeats - Diffused
Wickaman - The Chant EP (The Chant has to be one of the best tunes released ever...)
Rene Lavice - All My Trials & Not Deep
Dbrigde - Mainline & Apathy

And so on... Damn, the DnB World is releasing so much amazing stuff that I just can't keep up. Im'ma have to start dedicating a whooooole lot more time to dig dig dig. Wish I grew up in the era of Vinyl goodness.

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