Pioneer xdj-r1??
Pioneer xdj-r1?? Posted on: 07.05.2013 by Dannie Dimora I never heard of this "controller" up until someone in a thread here mentioned it and uploaded some photos. In case you haven't seen them, here they are:2.JPG3.JPG4.JPG So it seems pioneer has gone the all-in-one route that numark and gemini have taken quite some time ago, But i'm just wondering. Is there a niche market for pioneer that's big enough to justify such a product? I understand it's rekordbox compatible and everything, but at probably the price of 2 cdj400 and a little mixer, will this market be big enough for pioneer to make a profit? Also, do you guys believe that since this thing is probably based off cdj400s, it will support HID in traktor? | |
| Lizabeth Peight 20.06.2013 | Well then take the 2000s with you buddy!!!!!!!!! For what people are getting for the price (from Pioneer no less??????), I believe it's such a niggling small detail to complain about, I really do, and I'm not being funny, but if you and your colleagues are working at such a high level within the industry then use the best gear
and demand it on your DJ rider. This is a consumer device, and it is awesome, for HALF THE PRICE more or less, of a CDJ-350/DJM-350 setup. Poor bloody Pioneer, they could literally give away a guaranteed DJ spot for eternity in the bloody afterlife with each unit and people would still complain. "What, eternity???? Not sure I want that." |
| Alfredo Tooher 20.06.2013 | the limit sucks for a lot of mobile guys like myself, there are weekends where I will do 5 parties ranging from a Wedding, Sweet 16, anniversary, BarMitzvah. I have 25 years of collecting music on my drive all organized by artist, genres, etc.... I cannot re-do my drive and limit it to 10,000 files when i have near 30,000 track at hand for any situation or request I walk in to. I don't need to make room on my drive being that space is so cheap nowadays and why leave tracks at home that "may" get requested by an aunt, grandmother, whoever and say, oh sorry, i left that home. My Promo Only collection alone os over 10,000 tracks, LOL can I break it down to under 10,000 tracks? yes I am sure I can and tell them "sorry i dont have that track with me" but why when I can just have it all with me I work for one of the largest companies on L.I./NYC and theres easily 10-15 mobile dj's that work there that I am friends with, they all have huge libraries and thats the first thing they said when I mentioned the limit, Oh well, wont be buying that. A good mobile dj should have any request on hand to make the client happy. Yes, for the most part I dj out of the same 3-4 playlist every gig but obviously I take requests also and try and fit them in and it makes my clients happy, that's all I care about. Im not going to buy a device that limits me from doing that, especially when i own the 2000's that have no limit |
| Lizabeth Peight 20.06.2013 | OK, can someone please confirm this point definitively..... Is the R1 10,000 song limit regarding the maximum number of tracks on the USB device to be plugged into the R1? Or is it saying that if you have an R1, you must tell Rekordbox this in advance and it will only analyse, or allow you to have 10,000 max tracks in your rekordbox library on your home computer system. I really would love to know as many are getting really worked up on this topic! |
| Lizabeth Peight 20.06.2013 | I'm not sure why everyone is getting so hung up on this 10,000 song limit on the R1. You are NEVER going to need more than 10,000 songs every time you leave the house, that's just nuts! You can have your 3 kersquillion songs on your laptop at home, and then when wanting to use the R1 out of the house you prep your thumb drive with up to 10,000 songs and then head out to a gig!! Even if you are away for oh... I dunno, a 3 day festival, you aren't really going to need more than 10,000 songs. And all joking aside, the whole difference of rekordbox preparation over having your entire library on your laptop with Traktor or Serato is just that... 'preperation' being the magic word! Thinking in advance what you will take with you to play! A bit like preparing your vinyl bags of yore, but instead of a few hundred records in 3 or 4 HUUUUUGE bags on wheels, you can slip it in your jeans key pocket! If I'm missing something here, please do tell me, but I really don't see what the issue is and it seems a trivial objection to what is quite frankly AMAZEBALLS functionality at an amazing price point. You should head over to the Pioneer community s and read the mountain of shit Pioneer is getting from CDJ-900/2000 NEXUS owners who are all going ballistic as the R1 has better library searching and scrolling than the very top of the line 6K a pop Pro installation setup. |
| Cira Ditz 17.06.2013 | I debated for weeks about which of the two to go for. The R1 is incredible in what it offers, especially the fx and how it can be controlled DJM 2000 like via the app. The hotcue/samplers and also the CDJs are also an amazing addition. But I decided to go for the AERO just as it's a bit more portable, can connect direct to a laptop for recordbox prep and being able to record simply onto a USB is just so useful (big shame Pioneer limited the R1 on those two sadly). But I'm hoping to rebuild my setup in the future so will likely get some cdj2000s again, and maybe a DJM 850 or a 2nd hand DJM2000, so all those main extras I'm lacking on the R1 I won't miss for (hopefully) too long. I ordered a white AERO last week and am just aching to get hold of it, and plan to save for the white RMX 1000 hopefully for a payday or two away to match. Think whichever you go for in the R1 or the AERO it'll be a great setup. Just a shame it's not got all those features in one unit (and maybe have had a CDJ version and a slimline). Ah well. |
| Sonja Roybal 18.06.2013 | The R1 seems much more practical and less gimmicky. The Aero would be great if you're a kareoke dj though. |
| Anissa Perusek 17.06.2013 | I was on Amazon yesterday and thought of the Aero. I pulled it up and it was listed at $750. Looked again this morning and it was up to $960. Bummer. |
| Alfredo Tooher 17.06.2013 | nice! enjoy, its a good video actually if you're on the fence between them |
| Anissa Perusek 17.06.2013 | I'm at work. Don't have access here. Thank you! Will watch on my break. |
| Oretha Afful 17.06.2013 |
Originally Posted by bieberatemytaco
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| Alfredo Tooher 17.06.2013 | youtube+search= |
| Anissa Perusek 17.06.2013 |
Originally Posted by brichi
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| Alfredo Tooher 17.06.2013 | Pioneer did a comparison video between them too so you can see which one suits you better |
| Anissa Perusek 17.06.2013 | So Aero or XDJ-R1? Not sure what the major differences are. What do you guys believe? |
| Oretha Afful 17.06.2013 |
Originally Posted by paul1976
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| Loura Ulam 15.06.2013 | Fuel, the aero which came out a year ago allowed the plug and play aspect. I won't be updating from the aero as I like being able to download tracks to my nexus 7 and streaming songs on from there. I record my sets also to USB which isn't an option on the r1. I don't see the appeal of remote box software. Why would you want to control the mixer on an iPad when you have the physical mixer in front of you? The effect pad seems nice though. If I was using an iPad, traktor dj seems to be the way ahead. |
| Kristel Wattenberg 15.06.2013 | I believe it's pretty awesome. I've always liked the idea of an all in once device, but no company has every really hit the spot for me. I like the idea of being able to just plug in this controller, put a usb stick in, and mix right away. I don't like how it's impossible to have 4 decks, and there are obviously a lot of limitations when it comes to this kind of controller. Otherwise, for what it is, it's pretty cool. |
| Peggy Gabrielson 15.06.2013 | Kinda weird the lack of buzz around this unit. Seems like the first piece of hardware Pioneer has launched in ages that has not totally pissed off controllerists and/or laptop DJs. But since it was announced two weeks ago there has been very little buzz. I believe I've seen one youtube review. |
| Sonja Roybal 15.06.2013 | If it was 4 channels, I'd be the first in line. I'll probably still get it though. There's a few other things I need first though. |
| Ashanti Andreacchio 14.06.2013 | Thomann so got it up on their online store and state delivery from 28th and they were spot on with the DDJ SX. It costs the same as the SX is a little smaller but weights 1 kg. more then the SX. Still not sure if I'll get it |
| Oretha Afful 14.06.2013 | AGIpro shipping date moved to June 21st as of today. |
| Lizabeth Peight 09.06.2013 | No. The spec the specifically say it does not support Hubs I'm afraid. |
| Verlene Geevarghese 08.06.2013 | So are CDJ-2000's and a DJM-900, but that doesn't stop some people from using them with Traktor mostly (see Sasha). Being capable of doing multiple things well is never a bad selling point. |
| Gaynell Rydberg 08.06.2013 | I just don't get why you would want to run Traktor or any software with the R1. Point of the R1 is to be standalone. |
| Alphonso Deitchman 08.06.2013 | Doubt it. There's no drive selection menu on any of the Rekordbox players afaik. |
| Oretha Afful 09.06.2013 | Know this is a longshot but can you use a USB hub and plug in multiple USB drives? |
| Lizabeth Peight 06.06.2013 |
Originally Posted by makar1
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| Alphonso Deitchman 06.06.2013 | Pretty sure the restriction is imposed on NI's end as the 350 and 850 work fine as HID controllers for other software. |
| Dannie Dimora 06.06.2013 |
Originally Posted by makar1
Pio won't do it, i mean, they had to have something to market the 900 with, didn't they :P |
| Lizabeth Peight 06.06.2013 | I believe you're probably on the money with your comment 'no competing products'. The 400 is outdated as hell, so was just a bit of fun and an 'easter egg', without affecting anything current and still having the 350+850 be 'not really bothering with Traktor'. But of course there are now plenty of Tsi's for both of those decks! |
| Alphonso Deitchman 06.06.2013 | I don't really understand why they picked the CDJ 400 for Traktor HID, while neglecting the 350+850. It did have non-Advanced HID back in Traktor 1.x I guess. |
| Lizabeth Peight 06.06.2013 |
Originally Posted by makar1
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| Alphonso Deitchman 06.06.2013 | TSI files are just plain MIDI which I'm sure will work fine on the R1, no hacking necessary. NI only allow HID control from the high end CDJs where they have no competing products themselves. ^Advanced HID does indeed work with my 2000s connected to VDJ. Is there a list of HID-compatible VDJ devices anywhere, and does it extend to controllers too? |
| Lizabeth Peight 06.06.2013 |
Originally Posted by Polygon
http://www.virtualdj.com/wiki/HIDImplementation.html |
| Alfredo Tooher 06.06.2013 | gotcha, so much for that then, lol |
| Dannie Dimora 06.06.2013 |
Originally Posted by brichi
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| Lizabeth Peight 06.06.2013 | I completely agree mate. Its whole raison d' |
| Alfredo Tooher 06.06.2013 | it runs Virtual DJ so HID is possible |
| Alphonso Deitchman 06.06.2013 | The R1 is a direct competitor to Traktor so you won't be seeing HID integration. Is there even going to be HID at all from the R1? Doesn't seem likely. |
| Oretha Afful 06.06.2013 |
Originally Posted by dillinger23
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