Who scratches here?

Who scratches here?
Posted on: 22.12.2011 by Len Lukawski
A couple of months ago I decided to start learning to scratch, properly. Not just pushing the record around and hoping for the best (which best describes the previous 17 attempts back in the day). I have consumed hundreds of hours of videos on Youtube, been reading books, signed up for Qbert's SkratchU and practice whenever I can which unfortunately is maybe half an hour a day. I am definitely off the blocks skills-wise but still in skratch primary/elementary school.

So who here scratches?
Are you beginner or Grandmaster?
What are you learning right now?
What's been the hardest technique for you to learn?
How did you or do you learn?
What's your setup?
What do you scratch to?
Would you like to go to dinner?
- I edited this list as I had a repeat question on setups.

Would love to hear people's stories and views on this!
Len Lukawski
07.03.2012
Originally Posted by djlotus
Welcome to the thread. Please leave pride at the door as humility reigns supreme in this thread.
Mr Neverknowbest: see if you can fix the permissions on your video and we'll give it a look.

Mr. Lotus: Could not have put it better myself. You are one of the heroes my friend.
Ira Alsadi
07.03.2012
Can't view the video. Says it is private.

Welcome to the thread. Please leave pride at the door as humility reigns supreme in this thread.
Cordie Redmann
07.03.2012
Hey guys, I'm new here, I picked up scratching in December. I usually just mix dubstep but I figured, I have turntables, might as well try something new. I went through DJ Angelo's tutorials on youtube and i've been basically just scrounging up tips from various youtube videos and websites. I have a video of myself practicing some scratches over a Koan Sound track... upon watching it I'm bad at scratching on beat, but I'm gonna link it anyway... any tips or criticism would be appreciated! Especially about sounding smoother, I believe I rely too much on quick taps which make that kind of popping sound, which is cool, but not all the time.

Len Lukawski
07.03.2012
I am available to script your hilarity.
Ira Alsadi
07.03.2012
I like this idea. There should more satire and parody in turntablism.

Originally Posted by hipnopath
Yeah me too haha. I'm going to finish this one into a full two minute routine for the online DMC and my local town's elimination rounds. I have no idea what to for a full 6 minute set. I don't know whether to make it all Euro style or poke fun at it (like vocal samples before each part of my routine saying, "and now, here the mandatory extremely fast cuts over fast electro beats" or before a juggle, "and here is the necessary beat juggle to show you can't only scratch" poking fun at all DMC routines. Just a thought).
Verona Spradlin
07.03.2012
Yeah me too haha. I'm going to finish this one into a full two minute routine for the online DMC and my local town's elimination rounds. I have no idea what to for a full 6 minute set. I don't know whether to make it all Euro style or poke fun at it (like vocal samples before each part of my routine saying, "and now, here the mandatory extremely fast cuts over fast electro beats" or before a juggle, "and here is the necessary beat juggle to show you can't only scratch" poking fun at all DMC routines. Just a thought).
Len Lukawski
07.03.2012
Originally Posted by djlotus
That is sounding so much better. Keep it up man. I am looking forward to the whole routine.
Just watched it - agree.
Ira Alsadi
07.03.2012
That is sounding so much better. Keep it up man. I am looking forward to the whole routine.
Len Lukawski
07.03.2012
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Verona Spradlin
07.03.2012
Originally Posted by djproben
yeah I agree, that drum pattern is way too busy. It's cool as hell though; it would be great to work out a way to use it without having it bury your technical skills. Maybe do more shutting off the beat (shut off the channel fader on the beat and continue scratching for 4 bars and then bring it back), or maybe make your own beat with some loops from this and some loops from a much less busy track at the same tempo. Or like Smittten said, find a way to EQ it so that the scratches aren't competing with the drum pattern.
I changed the beginning into, lowered the tempo, used more channel cutting and a better scratch sentence.

Danae Dumler
06.03.2012
yeah I agree, that drum pattern is way too busy. It's cool as hell though; it would be great to work out a way to use it without having it bury your technical skills. Maybe do more shutting off the beat (shut off the channel fader on the beat and continue scratching for 4 bars and then bring it back), or maybe make your own beat with some loops from this and some loops from a much less busy track at the same tempo. Or like Smittten said, find a way to EQ it so that the scratches aren't competing with the drum pattern.
Verona Spradlin
06.03.2012
Originally Posted by smittten
I meant wrestling in general, not just at the end - sorry. I guess I'd go for something that allows your skill to really standout rather than a sound that competes with it. It might just be a case of eq'ing it differently.
Ahhh so you're talking just using a basic sound (ex. one kick or just one snare or just one ahhh) to showcase skill instead of a complicated sentence of insane drums/scratch sentences. I get what you mean completely, since I do love Euro electronic music, I love the sounds of technical turntabilism.
Len Lukawski
06.03.2012
I meant wrestling in general, not just at the end - sorry. I guess I'd go for something that allows your skill to really standout rather than a sound that competes with it. It might just be a case of eq'ing it differently.
Verona Spradlin
06.03.2012
Originally Posted by smittten
Granted I was only watching on my iPhone but the the drums come across as very bright and seem to obfuscate the scratch sample. When you switched the 2nd sample the contrast was way better and your cuts came through brilliantly. Still wonder if the beat pattern is going to end up wrestling with your scratching...
I believe I kind of mean what you're saying? You're saying that the drums are very profound and seem to obscure the scratch samples? Then you wonder if the beat pattern is going to end up wrestling with my scratching (I'm sorry, but I didn't really understand that one). The mayhem of fast scratches snare sounds and fast two clicks is just part of the European routines as shown here by DJ Unkut.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cMyke7at2X4

Unkut is also actually using the same record that I pulled my samples from Le Jad - Nervous Shock. Chock full of samples and beats. I have no where near the skill of Unkut, but it's nice to try. In retrospect, I probably won't do a Euro routine because here in South Texas, I believe many people people would boo fast electro sounding routines. It's too bad, I do like how some of it sounds even though other swear it's what killing the DMCs. Le Jad is known for making DJ Netik's/Rafik's/Fly's and Ligone's DMC routine that won in their respective years.
Len Lukawski
05.03.2012
Granted I was only watching on my iPhone but the the drums come across as very bright and seem to obfuscate the scratch sample. When you switched the 2nd sample the contrast was way better and your cuts came through brilliantly. Still wonder if the beat pattern is going to end up wrestling with your scratching...
Ira Alsadi
05.03.2012
Sounds good. Timing in the beginning is a little loose, but that's just forcing myself to find something.

I am insanely jealous of your ability to go from "insanely fast" 2 clicks to a slow stab and back again so effortlessly.

I will get there one day. One far off beautiful day.
Len Lukawski
05.03.2012
Will check out the vid later. Regardless, you're an amazing scratcher and have given a boat of help to this group. WINNER WINNER CHICKEN DINNER.
Verona Spradlin
05.03.2012
Originally Posted by smittten
So how many of you scratch with the beep the precedes the sample on skipless vinyl like the super seal records?
Nope, I don't use the beep before the "ahhh" or the "fresh," I really don't like it.

New video showing a possible DMC Routine probably for the online DMC or my local one in 3 weeks. I'm pretty nervous.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NkCTt...hzr_OXQZI8e6p1
Ira Alsadi
05.03.2012
I don't have any beeps which precede the samples on my battle vinyl. Now I feel left out. I need to check out these super seal records you guys are talking about. Hard to justify $35 for a double LP though.
Len Lukawski
05.03.2012
So how many of you scratch with the beep the precedes the sample on skipless vinyl like the super seal records?
Len Lukawski
04.03.2012
Keep on, keeping on mate.

The one great thing about scratching is that there are no short cuts, no ridiculous debates on whether one way is easier/cheating compared to others. We all just do what we can to get better. Some of us (I say "us" I mean all of you) master this stuff quicker than others. Some of us have more time but regardless, it's all about practice and keeping at it.

I love this thread above all others because its just about trying to get better and helping those that we can help.



D
Ira Alsadi
03.03.2012
Originally Posted by hipnopath
That part is for sure the hardest. I remember then I could do an incredibly fast two click flare and I thought I was untouchable but then I realized if you can't put it in a freestyle or combine it with other scratches, it's useless. As for transitioning, I'd suggest doing like stab/chirp combos or stab/flares combos to get used to it. Good luck!
Here is proof of that. As soon as I start believeing about another scratch, it all goes to hell in a hand basket.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7KQIG...ature=youtu.be
Verona Spradlin
03.03.2012
Originally Posted by smittten
Thanks! Gonna try out the chirp flare this weekend. I believe the challenge will be chaining the scratches together. Also transitioning between open and closed scratches looks tricky. Any tips?
That part is for sure the hardest. I remember then I could do an incredibly fast two click flare and I thought I was untouchable but then I realized if you can't put it in a freestyle or combine it with other scratches, it's useless. As for transitioning, I'd suggest doing like stab/chirp combos or stab/flares combos to get used to it. Good luck!
Len Lukawski
03.03.2012
Thanks! Gonna try out the chirp flare this weekend. I believe the challenge will be chaining the scratches together. Also transitioning between open and closed scratches looks tricky. Any tips?
Brunilda Kora
03.03.2012
That DJ Excess tute was really well presented...
Ira Alsadi
03.03.2012
Sounding good man. Keep it up.
Verona Spradlin
03.03.2012
Originally Posted by smittten
For those of us climbing that mountain!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6NOhsKJLhEI
Yep, you've got it! Now practice the chirp flare as shown here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DUaY6gMONmA

It's the same fader movement, just doing a quick baby then a long baby.

Edit: Once you start scratching drums, it gets real fun!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uFQ4J...S1KLFiFSwITfpY
Len Lukawski
03.03.2012
For those of us climbing that mountain!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6NOhsKJLhEI
Myung Belski
29.02.2012
Nice cuts hipno! Ya gots flow.
Paul Revoir
29.02.2012
Originally Posted by hipnopath
Tight Flow!!
Ira Alsadi
29.02.2012
What ever helps.

I am finding it difficult to do more than 4 double clicks in a row, and transitioning from open to closed scratches make me want to eat a bullet.
Len Lukawski
29.02.2012


I am sure this is nothing new but in my 34th effort to conquer the flare I have decided sticker and ink up the record, "Super Seal in the 4th Dimension". The green arrow is the start of the "Ahh" sample, the Orange segment is the "Flare Zone" (yes I am that lame) and the red inverted arrow is the end of the "Ahh".

The idea is that this gives me a better set of visual cues which I have found to be helpful. Anyway....... we'll see.

This DMC competition isn't going to win itself you know!
Danae Dumler
29.02.2012
is that the stock fader in the S2?
Verona Spradlin
29.02.2012
Still working on my flow.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U8NVz...hzr_OXQZI8e6p1
Ira Alsadi
29.02.2012
Very nice indeed.

I need to find more time to practice damn it. I am falling behind.
Verona Spradlin
28.02.2012
Originally Posted by J-Reign
Trying to get back in the game. Here's some cuts I just recorded on my new S2.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=saUEl...SZ3KVLDIQwXFL1
Dope cuts!!!! Very clean and crisp! Also, +1 for doing it on an S2.
Myung Belski
28.02.2012
Trying to get back in the game. Here's some cuts I just recorded on my new S2.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=saUEl...SZ3KVLDIQwXFL1
Bertie Metro
27.02.2012
Dj Keita's routine is so clean, i mean there is only one point where he isn't bang on time, and it's me being finicky because compared to other dmc champs routines this guy has a really really tight timing!
Verona Spradlin
26.02.2012
Originally Posted by guiltyblade
Heres a little inspritation. Probably one of the best routines I've ever heard. Totally on point. Although there is much scratching, but he blends songs amazingly, and juggles completely on point. Easily the best juggling I've ever heard.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5LrT5xoUax4
Yep, I've seen that routine before. Tt's pretty sick, especially because he's not using break records and he's doing a majority of the routine in 45 mode. My favorite DMC routine is between Rafik's DMC 2007 Routine:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-DEpAvtP_DA

or Vajra's 2004 USA Finals routine:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nt54OfoQv_A

I love both styles of music they used and even though Rafik's is premade, it's still very musical and I love how it sounds especially with his fast kick kick snare scaratching. Vajra's set is sick technically because of his incredible juggles/scratches and the funky hip hop used.
Alla Bluemke
26.02.2012
Heres a little inspritation. Probably one of the best routines I've ever heard. Totally on point. Although there is not much scratching, but he blends songs amazingly, and juggles completely on point. Easily the best juggling I've ever heard.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5LrT5xoUax4

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