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Official info on the Kontrol Z2!
Posted on: 29.09.2012 by Dung Domingus
***MOD EDIT Go to page 6 for the official announcement***

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Idk if this is real or not. It's in spanish (I used google translate to read the article), but supposedly this article bears all of the info you could ever want about the z2 and has an unreleased picture of it. I apologize if this has been posted already. I did some searching and didn't see it anywhere. http://grupoadagio.es/informaticamus...e-instruments/
kontrol z2.jpg


Article as translated by google translate. Maybe our bilingual djtt members can give us a better breakdown of the features?

"I recently had the opportunity to be in Berlin at the official presentation of the Z2 KONTROL European distributors. From the first moment is a product that has raised great expectations while many doubts. Leo in certain community s many dubious statements about what is going to be exactly the Z2 KONTROL Native Instruments ... Let's try to clear up some ideas.

One of the "slogans" that Native Insturments used in new designs is INTEGRATION. That means that each and every one of them his power will always come from an integration of the advantages of a powerful and efficient software and ergonomic hardware. Thus we have the best of both worlds combined, or rather multiplied.

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The KONTROL Z2 is a controller for DJ, sound card, integrated 4-channel capability to handle external signals from dishes or CDJ's in a session. It even works in "stand alone", ie not connected to the computer, but who wants to buy the Z2 with this functionality as stomping staple is suitable territory.

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The main idea that is developed with the design and release of TRAKTOR KONTROL Z2, is that there is a huge community of DJ's worldwide using TRAKTOR and go on tour with your computer as a key. Upon arrival at the club the DJ's are a multitude of solutions mixture that does not integrate with TRAKTOR at all, you must face connections and disconnections of cables and make room in the cabin for dedicated controllers as X1 and F1 are those who really are solve your session with TRAKTOR. The mixer as the centerpiece of the cabin is relegated then to control the volume, EQ and little else, and if it is an old and battered interpose noises mass or some faders and EQ's rascantes between your brand new computer and gear is sound.

With Z2 as a controller / mixer core of a club can have the conventional material (plates and / or CDJ's) playing, but start dreaming of your TRAKTOR just connect a USB cable. In addition two integrated USB hubs allow you to connect F1 or X1 in any combination at the same mixer and sound ... The changes between DJ's are now possible in less than two seconds.

Z2 can control 4 channel sound, to select between channels A, B, C and D easily. Its 4 side buttons are prepared to control 4 CUES or the shot of the first 4 samples of REMIX decks. The TRAKTOR effects control is also integrated although in a less extensive than using an F1. Switching to receive the analog signal from an external source is instantaneous and is performed with a simple pressing of a button, in this case only functions EQ, filter and volume can be performed on the signal.

The mixture remains engine when no ringing TRAKTOR an external source, so that the absolute cleanliness of the signal path is ensured.

The analog electronics around digital motor has been designed and chosen to provide audio quality up to the level that will require this new contender to win the heart of the cabins worldwide. In that sense I've tested both as EQ and filters are excellent. It also includes a license for TRAKTOR SCRATCH PRO 2 with their corresponding vinyl and CD's in the pack.

With this new family member TRAKTOR, the digital DJ system more advanced than we could have in the universe or not an S4, is a two KONTROL Z2 + F1 and an F1 or X1 or two dishes plus two CDJ's. And a computer, of course!

Other details like effects PRE / POST fader selectable, adjustable crossfader curve from the front panel, as well as X-fader reverse, two headphone outputs
Dung Domingus
03.10.2012
They're probably waiting for the bpm show on the 6th
Cole Maroto
03.10.2012
Originally Posted by rdej47
Please make it mostly brushed aluminum, no glossy
looks like that may be an option. check out the photo ean put up on his instagram. his name is also on that maschine mk2...

http://instagram.com/p/QSsV5Iyd4N/
Johnsie Kingrea
03.10.2012
I wish they'd just release some damn info, it's already October. Nestaselect you said we'd have news by October 1st, what gives?
Dung Domingus
03.10.2012
Yet another spanish link with some new possible info. This one has a price too.

http://www.sonomarket.com/es/tienda/...ontrol-z2.html

Corret me if I'm wrong, but that converts to about $1050 I believe
Johnetta Olewine
02.10.2012
Originally Posted by nestaselect
Unfortunately, no.
Source?
Concetta Delorie
02.10.2012
Originally Posted by Tolga
anyone now this will have send\return ???
Unfortunately, no.
Darlene Strohbeck
02.10.2012
Originally Posted by fitzyp
Looks kinda like brushed steel.Im believeing it is because you can see the glossy parts around the hotcue buttons. I believe it's just glare blocking half the VU meter.
That's some crazy glare to cause such a perfect rectangle
Tara Ramnath
02.10.2012
anyone now this will have send\return ???
Johnsie Kingrea
02.10.2012
Please make it mostly brushed aluminum, no glossy
Dierdre Stillabower
02.10.2012
Originally Posted by fitzyp
Looks kinda like brushed steel.Im believeing it is because you can see the glossy parts around the hotcue buttons. I believe it's just glare blocking half the VU meter.
Yeah, you can definitely tell that the level meter has the glossy surface, and it's surrounded by a different material. A metal surface would make me feel much better about this mixer.
Virgie Igler
02.10.2012
Shut up and take my money (after I sell a few of my DJ things that are collecting dust). I love using a real mixer (even though i started off with a controller, I just hate using them for EQs). I like the feel and the control of using timecode cds or vinyl, it's just more fun for me. I use my X1 religiously to the point where I would seriously feel out of it spinning without one. I would love to be able to pack this mixer in my knapsack and take it to gigs. It and my X1 wouldn't take up that much sapce (it's doable especially with my Mono 365 DJ bag) and I'd have the piece of mind knowing when I go to a gig that i'll be using my OWN mixer. Nothing is more annoying than setting up my Traktor box (although it is light). Getting rid of all the extra wires would be awesome. I have a Korg Zero 4 traktor certified mixer so at home it's not too much of a problem, but I still can't get the on-the-fly recording funciton to work with it.

TL;DR

I was going to get an F1, but I'd rather sell my current 2Ch mixer and get this to use for samples and remix decks, and continue to use my X1 for deck controls and hot cues. Definitely the most anticipated DJ gear release since (personally) the original CDJ 2000 came out. I don't believe i've ever been more excited and gun-hoe on getting somethign right when it comes it, quite like how I am now.
Ned Somerset
02.10.2012
Looks kinda like brushed steel.Im believeing it is because you can see the glossy parts around the hotcue buttons. I believe it's just glare blocking half the VU meter.
Dierdre Stillabower
02.10.2012
oooh, is that a brushed stainless surface? If they did that for Ean, they'd better make it available to the rest of us assholes too.

Any idea why the top half of the level meter seems to be blocked out? Just glare?
Ned Somerset
02.10.2012
550713_10151444081797786_749477510_n.jpg Posted on Ean Goldens facebook page. His new rig for the CNTRL tour
Concetta Delorie
02.10.2012
Notice the orange buttons below the hot cue buttons are blank. In some photos in others they are labeled Flux, and in a few photos that I've seen, they are labeled Bjump. Not sure what to make of it. I guess we will find out next Monday.
Beverlee Bedrin
02.10.2012
Can anyone tell if this is gonna have a send/return for external effects?
Cliff Lohman
02.10.2012
Check out around the 15:00 mark of vid..

Thats a pretty common post fader fx example
Cliff Lohman
02.10.2012
Originally Posted by tokenasianguy
I get that, but how would these differences in functionality benefit someone in a real world application?

I understand when you're doing live sound, and you want to hear some vocals with and without FX, but when it comes to DJ'ing, don't you always want to be able to hear the FX in the phones so you know what it sounds like? If you want to know what it sounds like without FX, couldn't you just disengage them?
Nothing to do with the phones.. Some mixers will let u prelisten/cue an fx but i dont believe traktor lets u prelisten to fx..

The most common postfader fx ppl want to use is the delay.. Basically using the fader to do echo freezes.. Good for teasing a beat or scratching..
Nancey Inderlied
02.10.2012
Originally Posted by tokenasianguy
I get that, but how would these differences in functionality benefit someone in a real world application?

I understand when you're doing live sound, and you want to hear some vocals with and without FX, but when it comes to DJ'ing, don't you always want to be able to hear the FX in the phones so you know what it sounds like? If you want to know what it sounds like without FX, couldn't you just disengage them?
It has nothing to do with the headphones. When you put an echo on pre-fader, then drop the fader, the track, and the echo, cut. When you route an echo post fader, then drop the fader, the track cuts, and the echo tails out naturally. It doesn't have anything to do with effects cueing.
Darlene Strohbeck
02.10.2012
Originally Posted by login
If materials are similar to the S4 then I see no point of it against a djm t1, also it doesnt have deck controls.
+1

DJMT1 has almost everything you need.
Darlene Strohbeck
02.10.2012
Originally Posted by kevz718
Prefader - u need ur fader volume up to hear the fx
Postfader - u can still hear fx lingering after u turn channel volume down - most common post fader fx would be an echo or reverb where u pull channel fader down and let the channel echo out.. Or push the fader open to fill up the echo fx slightly
I get that, but how would these differences in functionality benefit someone in a real world application?

I understand when you're doing live sound, and you want to hear some vocals with and without FX, but when it comes to DJ'ing, don't you always want to be able to hear the FX in the phones so you know what it sounds like? If you want to know what it sounds like without FX, couldn't you just disengage them?
Danae Dumler
02.10.2012
it will probably be the exact same materials as the S4, and as everything NI makes hardware-wise
Randell Koper
02.10.2012
If materials are similar to the S4 then I see no point of it against a djm t1, also it doesnt have deck controls.
Dung Domingus
01.10.2012
I'm holding off on a mixer purchase until this announcement. I really hope that it has metal pots and quality faders... I'm also hoping that NI announces remix deck compatibility with the new maschines, in which case I'm going to snatch one of those up instead of an f1.
Leota Dolney
30.09.2012
Originally Posted by rdej47
I'm definitely guessing in the $800-$1000 range but I'm actually believeing its going to be $800 remember they have to leave room for a 4 deck version so I'm guessing that would launch with a $1000-$1100 price. I'm basing this pricing off their price for the S4 (4 decks + jog wheels + timecode) and the price of the DJM T1. You can't expect this mixer to sell if its priced higher then the DJM T1 and more then the S4, otherwise people would just buy one of those since both of those offer similar features. $800 is the sweet spot.
I hear you...Ideally, they would price this at like $799 and have it with a street price of around $650 or so....in that price range, it would be very compelling. Not sure that I see this removing any market share from Pioneer or A&H as an installation mixer in most clubs though...
Johnsie Kingrea
30.09.2012
I'm definitely guessing in the $800-$1000 range but I'm actually believeing its going to be $800 remember they have to leave room for a 4 deck version so I'm guessing that would launch with a $1000-$1100 price. I'm basing this pricing off their price for the S4 (4 decks + jog wheels + timecode) and the price of the DJM T1. You can't expect this mixer to sell if its priced higher then the DJM T1 and more then the S4, otherwise people would just buy one of those since both of those offer similar features. $800 is the sweet spot.
Leota Dolney
30.09.2012
I'm so down for post-fader FX and Macro-mode FX. I considered an RMX-1000, but decided against it...would LOVE to have FX builds with reverbs, delays/echos that "spiral" up/down...and be able to use only 1 knob for that. Not sure if you should need the Z2 for that...seems like it should be mappable to anything with a free knob...but I guess we'll see!

Don't know if I will buy this thing. If it were "reasonably priced" under $500 or $600, I may eventually be tempted....but I just don't see that. My guess is that it will be in the $1,000 range and that is just TOO much $$$ for me.
Johnsie Kingrea
30.09.2012
Come on Padi translate!
Dung Domingus
29.09.2012
that would be awesome
Nedra Fresneda
29.09.2012
Posting this so I remember to properly translate it later.
Shonda Soulier
29.09.2012
Large photo - http://grupoadagio.es/informaticamus...KONTROL-Z2.jpg

Looks really awesome. Can't see too much need for an X1 with this.
Nancey Inderlied
29.09.2012
Christ, they're really hedging this thing as an INSTALL mixer? Woof, I can't wait for the controller only version next year...
Danae Dumler
29.09.2012
"but who wants to buy the Z2 with this functionality as stomping staple is suitable territory"

- gotta love google translate
Rochel Gleese
29.09.2012
I'm seriously tempted by this but I believe a four channel fader version wll be here in the new year.

Must not buy until then
Cliff Lohman
29.09.2012
Originally Posted by tokenasianguy
What's the difference between "pre" and "post" fader effects? I understand the difference in live sound applications, but I'm not sure how this would make a difference for "FX" unless just for monitoring purposes.
Prefader - u need ur fader volume up to hear the fx
Postfader - u can still hear fx lingering after u turn channel volume down - most common post fader fx would be an echo or reverb where u pull channel fader down and let the channel echo out.. Or push the fader open to fill up the echo fx slightly
Darlene Strohbeck
29.09.2012
Originally Posted by oneapemob
Yep the google translation seems to be on point

I can say i'm REALLY STOKED if it's true that they implemented pre and POST fader fx, the biggest change in traktor in years for me !
What's the difference between "pre" and "post" fader effects? I understand the difference in live sound applications, but I'm not sure how this would make a difference for "FX" unless just for monitoring purposes.
Johnsie Kingrea
29.09.2012
I can't believe I never noticed this, if you watch the kontrol z2 video, at the very end the guys deck fader is all the way down. We are definitely getting post fader fx. I can't believe I never noticed it the first 100 times I watched it
Johnsie Kingrea
29.09.2012
macro mode -effects (this mode allows you to control various parameters of an effect from a single button and the new version of TRAKTOR comes with a large group of preset effects to be controlled with a single button that will delight the DJ's for its ease of use and its incredible sound)

AH I suggested something similar to this in the NI community s. I found the chained fx settings to be lacking when you compare them to the control you get from using single mode. So I thought it'd be sweet to be able to customize the way a single FX should sound so that you could just use one knob to control it. I love my RMX 1000 but if I can start to do things like post FX delays and my own custom builds then i'm very down.
Janyce Henningson
29.09.2012
Good find!

Looks a nice mixer...
Bertie Metro
29.09.2012
Yep the google translation seems to be on point

I can say i'm REALLY STOKED if it's true that they implemented pre and POST fader fx, the biggest change in traktor in years for me !
I can only pray for it not to be a mixer specific function, but a software one, available to all for use in internal mixing mode !

Great find Kid Quest !

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