Official info on the Kontrol Z2!
Official info on the Kontrol Z2! Posted on: 29.09.2012 by Dung Domingus ***MOD EDIT Go to page 6 for the official announcement*** ---------------------------------------- Idk if this is real or not. It's in spanish (I used google translate to read the article), but supposedly this article bears all of the info you could ever want about the z2 and has an unreleased picture of it. I apologize if this has been posted already. I did some searching and didn't see it anywhere. http://grupoadagio.es/informaticamus...e-instruments/ kontrol z2.jpg Article as translated by google translate. Maybe our bilingual djtt members can give us a better breakdown of the features? "I recently had the opportunity to be in Berlin at the official presentation of the Z2 KONTROL European distributors. From the first moment is a product that has raised great expectations while many doubts. Leo in certain community s many dubious statements about what is going to be exactly the Z2 KONTROL Native Instruments ... Let's try to clear up some ideas. One of the "slogans" that Native Insturments used in new designs is INTEGRATION. That means that each and every one of them his power will always come from an integration of the advantages of a powerful and efficient software and ergonomic hardware. Thus we have the best of both worlds combined, or rather multiplied. * The KONTROL Z2 is a controller for DJ, sound card, integrated 4-channel capability to handle external signals from dishes or CDJ's in a session. It even works in "stand alone", ie not connected to the computer, but who wants to buy the Z2 with this functionality as stomping staple is suitable territory. * The main idea that is developed with the design and release of TRAKTOR KONTROL Z2, is that there is a huge community of DJ's worldwide using TRAKTOR and go on tour with your computer as a key. Upon arrival at the club the DJ's are a multitude of solutions mixture that does not integrate with TRAKTOR at all, you must face connections and disconnections of cables and make room in the cabin for dedicated controllers as X1 and F1 are those who really are solve your session with TRAKTOR. The mixer as the centerpiece of the cabin is relegated then to control the volume, EQ and little else, and if it is an old and battered interpose noises mass or some faders and EQ's rascantes between your brand new computer and gear is sound. With Z2 as a controller / mixer core of a club can have the conventional material (plates and / or CDJ's) playing, but start dreaming of your TRAKTOR just connect a USB cable. In addition two integrated USB hubs allow you to connect F1 or X1 in any combination at the same mixer and sound ... The changes between DJ's are now possible in less than two seconds. Z2 can control 4 channel sound, to select between channels A, B, C and D easily. Its 4 side buttons are prepared to control 4 CUES or the shot of the first 4 samples of REMIX decks. The TRAKTOR effects control is also integrated although in a less extensive than using an F1. Switching to receive the analog signal from an external source is instantaneous and is performed with a simple pressing of a button, in this case only functions EQ, filter and volume can be performed on the signal. The mixture remains engine when no ringing TRAKTOR an external source, so that the absolute cleanliness of the signal path is ensured. The analog electronics around digital motor has been designed and chosen to provide audio quality up to the level that will require this new contender to win the heart of the cabins worldwide. In that sense I've tested both as EQ and filters are excellent. It also includes a license for TRAKTOR SCRATCH PRO 2 with their corresponding vinyl and CD's in the pack. With this new family member TRAKTOR, the digital DJ system more advanced than we could have in the universe or not an S4, is a two KONTROL Z2 + F1 and an F1 or X1 or two dishes plus two CDJ's. And a computer, of course! Other details like effects PRE / POST fader selectable, adjustable crossfader curve from the front panel, as well as X-fader reverse, two headphone outputs | |
Len Lukawski 05.10.2012 |
Originally Posted by oneapemob
I have not been as plugged in to the scene of late so when I saw the Z2 and its price I was disappointed. Now I know the faders are Innofaders, I am well impressed. This might be one of the few battle-oriented mixers where not having a quick-swap crossfader is ok. Now's the time to f*** the warranty on your s4 and get that innofader in there |
Leeanna Ayla 05.10.2012 | It's not going to matter much on which EQ's your using since the hardware EQ's are emulating the software EQ's. |
Rochel Gleese 05.10.2012 | I'm getting conflicting reports: When using Traktor (control vinyl or controllers) is the software always in Internal mode or can you select between using it in external mode (thus using the EQs of the actual mixer) and internal (or both I Guess) |
Ciara Cuttill 05.10.2012 |
Originally Posted by ekwipt
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Rochel Gleese 05.10.2012 |
Originally Posted by Eliot Han
2x X1 1x F1 1x Maschine Audio 10 Xone 92 A Z4 or Z5 would have to be a perfect solution for me to switch Quite happy with my setup as it is now |
Leota Dolney 06.10.2012 |
Originally Posted by photojojo
Originally Posted by Eliot Han
As far as techno etc., that is definitely within my styles and I do use multiple channels...they are just spread across my mixer and my F1 :-) I don't always play to much of it though...maybe early in a set or later in a set as a sort of improv/live remix component...I don't really do much in the way of full on techno sets...but your point is well taken as I am considering a 2nd F1 so I can control both remix decks at the same time...right now I need to switch control over using a single F1...having the 4 channels on the F1 is nice...having 4 more would be nicer...so...I guess you are right... ;-) |
Mila Garan 05.10.2012 | Anyone know how the VU meters for the decks work on this? One thing I like about running 2 channels out of traktor into a hardware mixer is that the vu meters are much more accurate and you can actually see that you have the 2 tracks at an even volume (I like being able to see that my tracks are peaking with only 1 of the yellows lighting up). Traktor's internal meters seem to hit max no matter what so it's hard to tell what your track is actually peaking at.. Anyone know if the z2 works this way or if the meters work more like the s4/ traktor internal meters. |
Nedra Fresneda 05.10.2012 | Assuming the HID map isn't closed as the S4, sacrificing the displays in the process (don't make the same mistake twice NI). |
Basil Forshee 05.10.2012 |
Originally Posted by photojojo
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Leeanna Ayla 05.10.2012 | Black is prettier |
Ciara Cuttill 05.10.2012 |
Originally Posted by DirtyNerd
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Ciara Cuttill 05.10.2012 |
Originally Posted by ekwipt
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Ashanti Andreacchio 05.10.2012 | It comes with scratch pro and is focused 90% for timecode users as it looks to me. I want to be just controller DJ so no thanks. |
Leeanna Ayla 05.10.2012 | I'm curious to know if I can route both remix decks to decks C for main volume control and then use Deck D for Maschine? Or maybe use the Aux channel for Maschine. |
Dung Domingus 05.10.2012 | I feel like the djm has a better crossfader for my needs and has more knobs and buttons to be midi mapped offering more flexibility. I don't need actual remix deck control as I'm going to pick up an f1. The only thing that has me torn from just picking up a djm-t1 (which I can get from guitar center for about $750 with they're Columbus day sale) is whether or not the post fader effects will work for it. Anyone know? |
Leota Dolney 05.10.2012 |
Originally Posted by bmo
Originally Posted by ekwipt
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Rochel Gleese 05.10.2012 | I'm 3decks easily and have started mucking around with the F1 on the 4th, and sometimes use Maschine on the 5th So personally looking for 5 channels with faders and EQ |
Virgie Igler 05.10.2012 |
Originally Posted by DirtyNerd
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Leota Dolney 05.10.2012 |
Originally Posted by Mofli
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Leota Dolney 05.10.2012 |
Originally Posted by Nicky H
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Janyce Henningson 05.10.2012 |
Originally Posted by rdej47
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Nancey Inderlied 05.10.2012 |
Originally Posted by djproben
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Danae Dumler 05.10.2012 |
Originally Posted by oneapemob
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Nancey Inderlied 05.10.2012 |
Originally Posted by Rukks
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Johnsie Kingrea 05.10.2012 | The features included in 2.6 make me wonder what we're going to get when Traktor Pro 3 releases. I thought for sure things like custom macro FX and post fader fx would be held off until then, so this comes as a surprise to see this. |
Johnsie Kingrea 05.10.2012 | Anyone interested in my DJM T1 now? haha |
Bertie Metro 05.10.2012 |
Originally Posted by Mofli
As for the internal external eq and stuff, i do believe that NI's jargon is telling us that, when using control vinyl, it's using Traktor's internal eq, only when using line or phone does the mixer use the mixer's hardware eq. But rejoice, with the upcoming 2.6 they started adding some of the stuff that has been requested for a long time. Such as post fader fx (praise god(s), any of the one you praise ), and NI's own slip mode, etc... And the thing is with a mixer like that in the pipeline, they will have to improve on the quality of the eq. Just wait for it, i'm sure this will be in some future update, as soon as reviews of the Z2 start mentioning that it could sound better, because it's actually being hold back by the quality of traktor's own internal eq. Then they will improve, they'll have to in order to sell this mixer |
Lang Abriel 05.10.2012 |
Originally Posted by Shishdisma
I watched the video.... |
Thomasine Henzi 05.10.2012 |
Originally Posted by deckard26354
As for the external or internal eq. I guess that if you want to use the mixer with timecode you have to put it in trakor mode (as ean shows in the video) and then the eq will be internally. Really like the look of this mixer, it kinda brings together turntableism with controllerism. |
Leota Dolney 04.10.2012 | I'm not sure if I am interested in this yet or not....part of me says "oooh...shiny new thing...I want it...", but the other part of me looks at it and things...well, what does it have that my DN-X1700 doesn't have...FX knob, dedicated filter on each of the 2 main channels, onboard buttons for hotcues/remix decks, USB hub. The fx knob is no big deal...I have an X1 and/or a Xone:K2 that I can repurpose for that. The DN-X1700 doesn't have a dedicated per-channel, but it does have 2 FX engines each with its own filter and I can just route my 2 main channels to the 2 FX units and get the same thing. I have an F1 and an X1, so I don't need dedicated buttons for hotcues...the DN-X1700 is also Traktor scratch certified so I can use timecode vinyl/cds...the FX engine on the DN-X1700 also does Post-Fader FX (e.g., Echo)... The only thing that the Z2 has that my 1700 doesn't is a built-in USB hub... But then again, it may be just the right thing to complement a modular setup like what I prefer...but then again, I already have a mixer that can do a lot...ughhhh. Forget it...I just want the new Traktor 2.6 to come out...once that is out and I have a chance to map my controllers for it..I will see how much I really need the Z2. |
Wallace Lawmaster 04.10.2012 | Anybody know what the three buttons above the Load/Browse functions are for? |
Danae Dumler 04.10.2012 | This is interesting alongside the new Pioneer monster because NI is squarely aiming for the turntablist market with this a lot more than ever before; with innofaders this is a straight up battle mixer, something Ean doesn't really demonstrate here. This is their answer to the Rane 62 and it's a damn good answer. I'm sure the Rane sounds a lot nicer -- I would bet this sounds exactly like all of NI's soundcards or the S2/4, and that the EQs sound exactly like the ones in Traktor internal. Would love to be wrong about that but I don't believe I am. But otherwise this is bad ass - with innofaders and a nice clear space around the xfader you can scratch and juggle without accidentally triggering any of the insane effects combos you'll have at your fingertips. And it can do four channels but will work great with just two and not feel like "too much" at all. I was talking smack about the next Traktor update in another thread, but I'm pretty pumped about a couple of things here -- so glad they didn't add yet another overly complicated sampler to the thing. Slip mode (can't remember NI's little jargon for it at the moment but that's what it is) is something they've been missing for a LONG time that is quite welcome here, and the macro effect tool is excellent - if it works how I imagine it does, it will alleviate a lot of mapping issues that take hours/days... All this makes the software easier for people to do cool things with even though they don't necessarily like to read manuals, mess with settings, screw around with their computer for hours ... folks who otherwise would probably use Serato. Meanwhile, Pioneer's new toy takes Serato in the direction previously dominated by Traktor -- all-in-one controllers with redonkulous effects possibilities, looping craziness, cue point juggling, four deck-control, ultra-fine pitch control, filters, etc. |
Ming Devis 04.10.2012 | ^ I really hope so.. A bigger version of this would be exactly what I'm after. |
Rochel Gleese 04.10.2012 | Interested in the sound quality of the mixer, and will wait it out for the 5 channel (Traktor and Maschine) Surely they'll have to go this way since most of their sponsored techno DJs use this setup (Leibing, Hawtin, Speedy J, Dubfire etc) |
Johnetta Olewine 04.10.2012 | Packing 3 innofaders, a soundcard and standalone mixer together for under a grand is pretty impressive. |
Lina Rawie 04.10.2012 |
Originally Posted by elliot1106
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Nancey Inderlied 04.10.2012 |
Originally Posted by Rukks
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Lang Abriel 04.10.2012 | I'm still confused on the whole internal mixing mode with this mixer....is it going to perform the same as the s4 or are the faders/eq actually performing like an analog mixer while using traktor timecode? |
Nancey Inderlied 04.10.2012 |
Originally Posted by nestaselect
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Linda Chavda 04.10.2012 | They are on the front. |
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