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Lemur now on iOS!
Posted on: 06.12.2011 by Hang Trabing
Title says it all, here's more information: http://liine.net/en/products/lemur/
nayit ruiz jaramillo
24.12.2011
Oh fuck it, im just gonna buy it and make maps before i eventually get an iPad.
Gonna try make them with Xtreme Mapping.

I can check the maps on my iPhone.

Damn you Padi_04... i have to blame someone so im blaming YOU...!!!
Nedra Fresneda
24.12.2011
The Lemur editor has MIDI connector icon on the top right, that shows a list of all the MIDI messages your layout contains. The editor automatically sets a different CC to every control you add (unless you copy an item, in that case the CC is doubled as well).
Lynetta Stanislav
24.12.2011
Padi how do I check that ?
Nedra Fresneda
24.12.2011
Originally Posted by neilmcm
Yes got the app going to have a play about with a layout and see if I can get it to work , one question I have when I have built the map do I use the learn button in Traktor to get the each function to work is this the easiest way.
Yes, just make sure there are no MIDI overlaps in Lemur editor first. After that you can use the learn function for everything except outputs.
Lynetta Stanislav
24.12.2011
Yes got the app going to have a play about with a layout and see if I can get it to work , one question I have when I have built the map do I use the learn button in Traktor to get the each function to work is this the easiest way.
Nedra Fresneda
24.12.2011
Originally Posted by J5k
Can you share how you mapped the menu? I managed to map one that would display the selected effect correctly, but couldnt get it to select the proper effect. Any tips would be great. Thanks!
You need to map it as a direct fader/knob, it should divide itself to step between the different effects whenever you add or delete an option. The only tricky part is to ALWAYS have "No Effect" as the first option and have the order of the rest match the order of your Traktor FX.
nayit ruiz jaramillo
24.12.2011
Forget the last question , just read the website.
nayit ruiz jaramillo
24.12.2011
I havent got Lemur yet but ive made layouts on TouchOSC, its dead easy.
I dont imagine making an EQ layout is that hard ...???

Have you got the Lemur app Neil..?

Can someone tell me, does the app have to run on the iPad or can you create the layouts on a Macbook Pro..? I assume its iPad/iPhone only..?
Lynetta Stanislav
24.12.2011
These are starting to look to cool guys , not got a clue how to start building a lemur template would love one where u can control the xone 4 eq in the s4 , will anyone be sharing the templates and tsi and possible videos of how to build your own templates.
Irwin Ney
24.12.2011
Originally Posted by J5k
Can you share how you mapped the menu? I managed to map one that would display the selected effect correctly, but couldnt get it to select the proper effect. Any tips would be great. Thanks!
I wish the same, didn't tried yet but if you could post how you do it would help
Keeley Mikulsky
23.12.2011
in search of a video of someone scratching with ipad + lemur pleaseee! will be forever grateful!
Leah Shawkey
23.12.2011
Originally Posted by padi_04
Giving this a shot running beside the S4. Nothing too fancy, just want to test it's stability in a live scenario.

From testing it's a lot more responsive. I also map the out commands to the faders for them to update their position when you change the FX, moving 3 faders mapped this way made TouchOSC stutter quite badly, Lemur can handle 8 with comfort. Like I said before, the menu element wins the day.

Can you share how you mapped the menu? I managed to map one that would display the selected effect correctly, but couldnt get it to select the proper effect. Any tips would be great. Thanks!
Mathilda Mecias
23.12.2011
yeah when i used the knobs it just didnt feel right. so the three horizontal faders are hi mid and low and the one vertical fader is a filter.
nayit ruiz jaramillo
23.12.2011
@dukebd24, have you mapped the EQs to faders? Thats what i was believeing as i believe they would be easier to use than the knobs. The knobs on TouchOSC are shite and hard to use (imho).
Virginia Flaagan
23.12.2011
ill try it out toevening . looks good though.
Mathilda Mecias
23.12.2011







Kenya Zaretsky
23.12.2011
nice to see people working on a lemur template for ipad.
screenshots would be nice
Mathilda Mecias
23.12.2011
basic 2 deck traktor template for ipad with 2 volume faders, pitch bend strips, pitch faders, phase meters and track progress meters, 4 fx banks, 3 band eqs with kills, filters, 8 cue points, and 8 different loop lengths. no fancy physics or scripting, just a basic map.
i didnt like using knobs on the touch screen with the limited space on this template, so i opted for bipolar faders for the eqs, filters, and fx.

http://www.2shared.com/file/RW9u_NT_/Traktor2.html

2 deck traktor layout with twitch like strips, phase meters and track progress (padi_04 thanks). the two faders below the touch strips/phase/progress are for tension (left fader) and friction (right fader) of the pitch bend touch strip (big red one). the fader on the right is a pitch fader. each of the top containers contain fx banks 1/3 on the left and fx 2/4 on the right. each has dry/wet control as well as 3 faders for chained effects or paramaters for advanced effects. there is also an on/off for each fader. in each fx container, there is a menu to select fx 1 or 3 (left) and fx 2 and 4 (right)

there are 2 volume faders for 2 decks. each deck has its own container. the first tab is eq+kills, filter, play/pause, cue (light blue) and sync (orange). the 2nd tab has 8 cue points and auto loop for 8, 4, 2, 1, 1/2, 1/4, 1/8, 1/16 beat loops. press and hold to loop, release to release loop.
no tsi file yet, that will be on hold until after Christmas.

if you are going to download this, click the blue "download" button at the bottom of the screen, not whatever the fake download thing in the middle is
Nedra Fresneda
22.12.2011
Giving this a shot running beside the S4. Nothing too fancy, just want to test it's stability in a live scenario.

From testing it's a lot more responsive. I also map the out commands to the faders for them to update their position when you change the FX, moving 3 faders mapped this way made TouchOSC stutter quite badly, Lemur can handle 8 with comfort. Like I said before, the menu element wins the day.

Keeley Mikulsky
22.12.2011
Originally Posted by Xonetacular
Alright cool, it can be done and the crossfader mapping is cool but it feels very limited.

Just download djay for the ipad to get an idea what it will be like.
for sure thanks brotha. now i just have to wait for that ipad 3 to come out.... projections are last first quarter 2012 so march... im praying but the company that supplies a lot of the ipad parts to apple had an explosion at the plant this weekend so that cant be good o.O
Romelia Stankard
21.12.2011
Alright cool, it can be done and the crossfader mapping is cool but it feels very limited.

Just download djay for the ipad to get an idea what it will be like.
Keeley Mikulsky
21.12.2011
Originally Posted by Xonetacular
Why do you want to scratch with a touch screen?

the map I linked above has this:



It doesn't work well
thats kind of like the idea i had..

that ones a little bigger than i had in my but is the basic jist.

i dont exactly want to "scratch" with it like a full hip hop dj just be able to do mix skeets to mix up songs together like in the video i posted.. something very similar to that.

its because when i do college gigs and small small clubs etc i find the idea of just being able to bring my laptop/ipad a very intriguing and ez/simple way of doing a shorter gig. where i dont have to haul all my of stuff for some measly sum of money.

plus ive always had an infatuation with touchscreen and completely customizable faces.. i would love spending hours setting up a software with the exact color scheme and set up that i want.. i find that stuff fun and interesting.
Romelia Stankard
21.12.2011
Why do you want to scratch with a touch screen?

the map I linked above has this:



It doesn't work well
Keeley Mikulsky
21.12.2011
Originally Posted by Xonetacular
The problem is not the software it is trying to scratch by rubbing your finger on a touch screen
im believeing instead of making a small wheel like they have their you would be better off to make 1 big wheel that takes up like 70% the screen and it only has around 50% of the wheel exposed..



maybe something like that?

im waiting until the ipad 3 and hoping the screen has better sensitivity and less lag, better response etc. but i would just use the scratch for just basic parts of mixing etc.
Romelia Stankard
21.12.2011
The problem is not the software it is trying to scratch by rubbing your finger on a touch screen
Keeley Mikulsky
21.12.2011
Originally Posted by Xonetacular
That's not going to work too well
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V5K-0GcA5pw

this is a scratch session in touchosc so i figured lemur would be quite a bit better no?
Nedra Fresneda
21.12.2011
Setting up a phase meter is quite simple. Just lay a thin bipolar(centered) fader and have traktor send the deck's phase meter to that control. The extra lines on it are probably just a | label over it

With Lemur you might want to use a multislider (with only 1 slider), since you won't be needing a fader cap and you get a bit more detailed feedback when the phase is close to 0.

Something like this:



Orange being phase, blue twitch like bend/scrub and track progress below it.
Romelia Stankard
21.12.2011
Originally Posted by DJ Cosmo
anyone have any experience scratching with lemur on the ipad o.O? big question of mine...
That's not going to work too well
Keeley Mikulsky
21.12.2011
anyone have any experience scratching with lemur on the ipad o.O? big question of mine...
Romelia Stankard
21.12.2011
Originally Posted by Karlos Santos
Thats the part im most looking forward to. Seriously, a totally customised layout that just has what "I" want is a dream.


@Xone, how did you do the Phase Meter ? Is that on TouchOSC.
Yeah that's touchosc. Not my map- I don't have the patience to make something that crazy, I just bought it for like $6 a while ago it's pretty cool. I could dig around later and try to figure it out but it works perfectly. http://ipad-dj.noelc.com/ipad-dj/4-d...r-control.html
Dionne Bullock
21.12.2011
>Xonetacular
Hey, you got the works with TouchOSC!! The strength of Lemur is not comparable with TouchOSC, though. It's so unfair, really, TouchOSC would be cremated by Lemur when it comes to functionality. Nonetheless, there remains the fact that (1) it's quite complicated to get anything out of Lemur beyond what one could do with TouchOSC and (2) TouchOSC does have some superior functions such as the Z variable for all control types.

>Miles-D
You can stretch the legacy templates with a... um... not sure but something called like the "stretcher". Anyway, what do you want to see in a Traktor Lemur? Tell me. I mean, the easiest thing to do is to map every single control of Traktor onto a Lemur page but.. who really wants that? I don't want to twist the dry/wet, filter, feedback and rate at the same time just to manipulate a delay... one XY pad is more than enough. So, a good controller really depends on the DJ, I believe. But if you tell me what you want, I might make a template of your dreams and post it here. I like making templates.
nayit ruiz jaramillo
21.12.2011
Originally Posted by Miles-D
i won't buy the lemur app if i have to spend 30+ hours to develop my own template.
Thats the part im most looking forward to. Seriously, a totally customised layout that just has what "I" want is a dream.


@Xone, how did you do the Phase Meter ? Is that on TouchOSC.
Leah Shawkey
21.12.2011
Originally Posted by Miles-D
on the lemur site i cant find a good looking traktor template. i cant even find a traktor template for ipad resolution at all. i'm really excited bout using the ipad as a portable full control dj controller. i hope some people here or somewhere else will share some well thought out templates for traktor with ipad resolution soon. i won't buy the lemur app if i have to spend 30+ hours to develop my own template.
Someone posted a template in the thread on one of the first few pages I believe.
Kenya Zaretsky
21.12.2011
on the lemur site i cant find a good looking traktor template. i cant even find a traktor template for ipad resolution at all. i'm really excited bout using the ipad as a portable full control dj controller. i hope some people here or somewhere else will share some well thought out templates for traktor with ipad resolution soon. i won't buy the lemur app if i have to spend 30+ hours to develop my own template.
Romelia Stankard
21.12.2011
Originally Posted by photojojo
Maybe you could have a sober layout and a drunk layout?
the TouchOSC template I use has pages like that

I guess this would be sober:



drunk:





this template is pretty much my standard for touchosc ipad maps. It has almost every traktor control you can believe of mapped to a page including a lot of control over beat grids and even changing global controls like layout stuff and deck types

should give you some ideas for lemur possibilities

11 pages on one template/map
















Now this is the page on this map that blows me away and should be included on a lemur map. Full control over deck types, beat grids, and everything you could imagine for global settings and focused settings.



advanced loops and cues



sample decks

Annalee Egerman
21.12.2011
Brilliant! The first step would be making the buttons larger, and removing anything that would cut the sound: filter, individual deck levels



(and of course setting traktor so that playing decks can't be loaded)
Leeanna Ayla
21.12.2011
Originally Posted by heyitstom
Are you interested in mixing in lemur? I am wondering how difficult Lemur will be to operate under the influence
Maybe you could have a sober layout and a drunk layout?
Annalee Egerman
21.12.2011
Are you interested in mixing in lemur? I am wondering how difficult Lemur will be to operate under the influence
Dionne Bullock
20.12.2011
Originally Posted by heyitstom
Micl, what template are you using? Did you build one?
Yeah, I spent like 30 hours straight studying the rules and calculating and experimenting and failing and..... man, it's so much fun!!!!



Far from complete, but this is the main page.

The filter can be adjusted by (1) the center of modulation, (2) the width of modulation and (3) the speed of modulation, which can all be set to snap back to zero on release or stay where the finger left. All modulations are synced to the BPM set in another page (not quite there with syncing via midi clock).

Beatmasher has four instant effects that use the ADSR envelope of the pads.

These are just two examples of what couldn't have been accomplished prior to lemur (on iPad) but I am sure that a hell of lot more can be done.
Annalee Egerman
20.12.2011
Micl, what template are you using? Did you build one?

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