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Lemur now on iOS!
Posted on: 06.12.2011 by Hang Trabing
Title says it all, here's more information: http://liine.net/en/products/lemur/
Tegan Kitchener
03.04.2012
Oh how i longed for a Lemur when i starding djing digitally. I bought a car instead lol. Bought Touchosc last week and after 2 days bought Lemur app (mostly because it looks so cold blooded). The
Joselyn Supina
08.02.2013
I am using the 43.jzml

I believe my issue is with the daemon/midi targets. Running the controller daemon launches them in Traktor, but I fail to get anything on the laptop. Nothing launches in the OSC target settings within lemur on the iPad, so I've tried inputting them automatically. I've also tried setting the Midi targets, but no daemon inputs/outputs are listed.

Also, the the controller daemon on the Mac finds nothing for the inputs/outputs.

However, I seem to have a bigger issue at hand. I tried restarting the Mac only to have it not boot, so I booted in safe mode to see I have disk I/O errors, tried repairing in disk utility, failed. So, I'm going to have put everything on hold until my new ssd drive comes.

Hopefully once I get everything restored, I'll get the midi/daemon targets working and we'll be all set.

Originally Posted by Macciza
Hi
THe 43.tsi is meant to be used with the 43.jzml - Is that what you are doing? . . .
The Daemon/MIDI targets need to be setup on computer/iPad - Is that done? . .
And then they can be selected for the tsi in Traktor setup . . .
After that it should be all good . ..

Just fired it up then . . .MM
Velda Kraxberger
08.02.2013
Hi
THe 43.tsi is meant to be used with the 43.jzml - Is that what you are doing? . . .
The Daemon/MIDI targets need to be setup on computer/iPad - Is that done? . .
And then they can be selected for the tsi in Traktor setup . . .
After that it should be all good . ..

Just fired it up then . . .MM

Originally Posted by SpeshulEd
Well, maybe someone here can help me...

I have lemur connected via an ad hoc network, woohoo!
I have imported the tsi file into traktor...I did this using the little import button in order to not wipe out all of my other controllers, etc.
I have set the input/output settings to Daemon input 0/Daemon output 0.

I try to control traktor via lemur, nada. Any advice on what I'm missing?

I'm using the "43" mapping - was hoping to have a dedicated effects controller in addition to the S4 and the Midi Fighter Beat Masher.
Tegan Kitchener
03.04.2012
Oh how i longed for a Lemur when i starding djing digitally. I bought a car instead lol. Bought Touchosc last week and after 2 days bought Lemur app (mostly because it looks so cold blooded). The
Viola Jardel
28.03.2012
Originally Posted by neilmcm
Is it possible to combine 2 layouts on one template and run 2 tsi in traktor.
I am going to try this and let you know.
Kandy Ahdoot
21.02.2012
Originally Posted by neilmcm
On the bottom right of editor there is a button to create interface this adds another page.
Total face palm moment cant believe i missed that,thanks
Kandy Ahdoot
13.02.2012
Originally Posted by V-Hoff
I want to know it too Tommy... Its a pain to edit an iPad interface with my 13'' Macbook...
That's what I am rocking on my MacBook pro 13

There must be a way as you can zoom and scale to fit on the tochOSC editor
Joselyn Supina
08.02.2013
I am using the 43.jzml

I believe my issue is with the daemon/midi targets. Running the controller daemon launches them in Traktor, but I fail to get anything on the laptop. Nothing launches in the OSC target settings within lemur on the iPad, so I've tried inputting them automatically. I've also tried setting the Midi targets, but no daemon inputs/outputs are listed.

Also, the the controller daemon on the Mac finds nothing for the inputs/outputs.

However, I seem to have a bigger issue at hand. I tried restarting the Mac only to have it not boot, so I booted in safe mode to see I have disk I/O errors, tried repairing in disk utility, failed. So, I'm going to have put everything on hold until my new ssd drive comes.

Hopefully once I get everything restored, I'll get the midi/daemon targets working and we'll be all set.

Originally Posted by Macciza
Hi
THe 43.tsi is meant to be used with the 43.jzml - Is that what you are doing? . . .
The Daemon/MIDI targets need to be setup on computer/iPad - Is that done? . .
And then they can be selected for the tsi in Traktor setup . . .
After that it should be all good . ..

Just fired it up then . . .MM
Velda Kraxberger
08.02.2013
Hi
THe 43.tsi is meant to be used with the 43.jzml - Is that what you are doing? . . .
The Daemon/MIDI targets need to be setup on computer/iPad - Is that done? . .
And then they can be selected for the tsi in Traktor setup . . .
After that it should be all good . ..

Just fired it up then . . .MM

Originally Posted by SpeshulEd
Well, maybe someone here can help me...

I have lemur connected via an ad hoc network, woohoo!
I have imported the tsi file into traktor...I did this using the little import button in order to not wipe out all of my other controllers, etc.
I have set the input/output settings to Daemon input 0/Daemon output 0.

I try to control traktor via lemur, nada. Any advice on what I'm missing?

I'm using the "43" mapping - was hoping to have a dedicated effects controller in addition to the S4 and the Midi Fighter Beat Masher.
Joselyn Supina
07.02.2013
Well, maybe someone here can help me...

I have lemur connected via an ad hoc network, woohoo!
I have imported the tsi file into traktor...I did this using the little import button in order to not wipe out all of my other controllers, etc.
I have set the input/output settings to Daemon input 0/Daemon output 0.

I try to control traktor via lemur, nada. Any advice on what I'm missing?

I'm using the "43" mapping - was hoping to have a dedicated effects controller in addition to the S4 and the Midi Fighter Beat Masher.
Velda Kraxberger
03.04.2012
Hi All.
First post as well . . .
Great to see all the Lemur discussion going on . . .

Would like to invites you all to join in on the Liine Lemur Forum as well . . .

Hope to see some of you over there if you aren't already

Cheers
MM
Tegan Kitchener
03.04.2012
Crikey i didnt realise that was my first post. Something of an anti climnax.
Tegan Kitchener
03.04.2012
Oh how i longed for a Lemur when i starding djing digitally. I bought a car instead lol. Bought Touchosc last week and after 2 days bought Lemur app (mostly because it looks so cold blooded). The
Nedra Fresneda
28.03.2012
Sure, you can do that even if you were running traktor on different computers
Viola Jardel
28.03.2012
Originally Posted by neilmcm
Is it possible to combine 2 layouts on one template and run 2 tsi in traktor.
I am going to try this and let you know.
Kandy Ahdoot
21.02.2012
Originally Posted by neilmcm
On the bottom right of editor there is a button to create interface this adds another page.
Total face palm moment cant believe i missed that,thanks
Lynetta Stanislav
21.02.2012
On the bottom right of editor there is a button to create interface this adds another page.
Kandy Ahdoot
21.02.2012
How do you make pages in lemur?
Irwin Ney
20.02.2012
Maybe if the lemur IOS editor window could be fullscreen... but not even that
Lynetta Stanislav
20.02.2012
Is it possible to combine 2 layouts on one template and run 2 tsi in traktor.
Kandy Ahdoot
13.02.2012
Originally Posted by V-Hoff
I want to know it too Tommy... Its a pain to edit an iPad interface with my 13'' Macbook...
That's what I am rocking on my MacBook pro 13

There must be a way as you can zoom and scale to fit on the tochOSC editor
Irwin Ney
13.02.2012
I want to know it too Tommy... Its a pain to edit an iPad interface with my 13'' Macbook...
Kandy Ahdoot
13.02.2012
quick question in the lemur editor how to you zoom to scale? in videos i have watched its just one editing area but on mine i have to scroll up and down to add controllers etc... which i find annoying.any help?
Jannette Thieneman
13.02.2012
I've downloaded archive and tried with my traktor. It doesn't work... Even a delete cues i wasn't able... And RGB feedback also didn't worked for me...
Viola Jardel
09.02.2012
This lad has great little tutorial on how to get led feedback on the cuepoints...great functionality and a working example I am integrating into my lemur template.

http://pumpupthedj-eng.tumblr.com/po...aktor-on-lemur

the zip containing the tsi and lemur template

thanks everyone for such a great place to learn and experiment with Lemur.
Frankie Helter
26.01.2012
Made a ipad template for traktor one afternoon while bored. dont have the .tsi file as i dont actually have a ipad so cant map it, so feel free to do that.


http://www.mediafire.com/?qtone6qb2x6v0nm
Lilliana Perris
19.01.2012
Originally Posted by photojojo
Wait, this works on the iPhone? Did I know that already?
Thanks for answering MY question too!

Nedra Fresneda
19.01.2012
Originally Posted by DJ MiCL
Multi-touch with multi-ball works awesomely to trigger different rates of the Beat Masher. Without the tactile feel of real buttons, if you set up pads you have to be constantly aware of where you're pressing with iPad but you can roughly stay in the same area and adjust effects with the number of touched fingers with multi-ball.
I'm believeing of converting my advanced effect units with this: first finger is always dry wet (on/of enabled by touch depending on the fx), 2-4 select (modifier of course) one of the parameter knobs which act in the y axis. Also to toggle between list and tree scrolling.
Dionne Bullock
19.01.2012
Originally Posted by padi_04
Gonna give this a run in a few mins. I must say that using multiball to achieve multitouch has never crossed my mind before. Genius!
Multi-touch with multi-ball works awesomely to trigger different rates of the Beat Masher. Without the tactile feel of real buttons, if you set up pads you have to be constantly aware of where you're pressing with iPad but you can roughly stay in the same area and adjust effects with the number of touched fingers with multi-ball.
Nedra Fresneda
19.01.2012
Gonna give this a run in a few mins. I must say that using multiball to achieve multitouch has never crossed my mind before. Genius!
Dionne Bullock
19.01.2012
Originally Posted by DJ MiCL
For reasons I have not figured out yet, there is a slight difference between the time lag to change from forward to reverse and vice versa. Due to this problem, scrubbing back and forth without lifting your finger results in gradually drifting to one direction.
Could't figure out the problem, but noticed that an encoder saves a lot of mapping to get similar results, so I changed this and got a better version. Improved response in both directions!

<Installation>
Download the attached zip file. If you would like to try out how it works, simply load the .tsi in Traktor and .jzml in Lemur. If you like how it works, use the .jzlib to include and duplicate the controls in your current set up.

<Traktor Mapping>
Below is the Traktor mapping for the current .jzml/.jzlib files. If you make any modifications/duplicates in Lemur Editor, make sure to change/duplicate&change the corresponding mappings in Traktor as well.

CC 0 - (input) Jog Touch/Deck A/Button/Hold
CC 1 - (input) Jog Turn/Deck A/Encoder/Relative/25%/3Fh41h
CC 2 - (input) Deck Zoom/Deck A/Fader/Direct
CC 3 - (input) Beat Phase Monitor/Deck A/Invert/Blend
CC 4 - (input) Deck Play/Deck A/Midi Range = 0 to 1









Dionne Bullock
17.01.2012
Hey guys. Made a Beta version of how I might build a Jog-Wheel-like function into my Lemur set up. If you want to go ahead and test it, download the attachment, load the .jzlib file in a blank template and transfer it onto Lemur, and import the included .tsi file and see how it works on Deck A. (Don't forget to export your current .tsi for backup, unless you are 100% sure that you have made zero changes since last exporting!!)



<User Manual>
The LED matrix you see is the scrubbing area. Scrubbing left or right with one finger is coarse, two is finer, and three is finest. The Deck zooms in to the wave form as the scrubbing gets finer. In CDJ mode scrubbing only works when the Deck is stopped, and the strip turns into a pitch bend strip. In Vinyl mode touching the strip will stop the playback (like touching a vinyl) and scrubbing will be activated.

<Installation>
Import the .jzlib into your template. The jzlib uses Ch14 CC 0 thru 9. If these conflict with your current set up, you must change the Channel or CC number as well as the corresponding Channel/CC numbers of the mapping directions below. To duplicate for Deck B thru D, copy and paste the entire selection and change Channels/CC and duplicate/modify the mappings as well.

<Traktor Mapping directions>
All Channel 14
CC 0 - (input) Jog Touch/Deck A/Button/Hold
CC 1 - (input) Jog Turn/Deck A/Button/Inc/Switch
CC 2 - (input) Jog Turn/Deck A/Button/Dec/Switch
CC 3 - (input) Jog Turn/Deck A/Button/Inc/Coarse
CC 4 - (input) Jog Turn/Deck A/Button/Dec/Coarse
CC 5 - (input) Jog Turn/Deck A/Button/Inc/Default
CC 6 - (input) Jog Turn/Deck A/Button/Dec/Default
CC 7 - (input) Deck Zoom/Deck A/Fader/Direct
CC 8 - (output) Beat Phase Meter/Deck A/Invert_on/Blend_on
CC 9 - (output) Deck Play/Deck A/Invert_off/Blend_off

If you wish to reverse the scrubbing direction, flip all "dec" and "inc" settings.

<Problems>
Lemur can only send 60 new values for each control per second. Due to this frame-rate restriction, scrubbing Lemur faster does not always result in scrubbing the track faster. There are 128 steps in the midi signal sent from left to right, so roughly speaking, scrubbing the strip from left to right in 2 seconds is the fastest you ever want to scrub the strip for practical purposes.

Because it is desirable to wait a frame or two for the multi-ball to "jump to the new value" before starting to scrub, there is a brief lag after touching the strip until the scrubbing starts.

For reasons I have not figured out yet, there is a slight difference between the time lag to change from forward to reverse and vice versa. Due to this problem, scrubbing back and forth without lifting your finger results in gradually drifting to one direction.

<DIY modifications>
You can change the shape/size as you like!

Scrubbing works in the opposite direction as scrubbing the wave form with a mouse -- it just felt right to me this way. If you wish to reverse the scrubbing direction, flip all "dec" and "inc" settings in the mapping.

If you prefer not to have the led matrix, shrink it send it to the back - but don't delete it. It is receiving deck play status that is needed for this to operate correctly.

If you prefer the Deck Zoom to not be affected, delete the custom midi called "deckzoom", as well as the Traktor mapping for it.

If you don't need the mode selection button, delete the button, and:

---If you want it to stay in Vinyl mode, delete the variable "ModeButton.x" from the value field of custom midi "jog touch" and change the formula in the value field of "deckzoom" to (z[0]*0.2+z[1]*0.2+z[2]*0.2).

---If you want it to stay in CDJ mode, delete custom midi "jog touch" altogether and change the formula in the value field of "deckzoom" to (z[0]*0.2+z[1]*0.2+z[2]*0.2)*(JogStrip.light==0), in which case you can also delete jog touch from the Traktor Mapping,

If you want to tweak the zoom percentages, look inside custom midi "deckzoom" and play around with the decimals in the value field.
Dionne Bullock
16.01.2012
Originally Posted by J5k
What is the multiball controlling in this case? I mean, what is it mapped to in traktor?
Do you have the latest version of Traktor? I was believeing two custom midis mapped to "jog turn" and z variable mapped to "jog touch".
Leah Shawkey
16.01.2012
Originally Posted by padi_04
yes, then the ball and the midi messages attached to it will vanish and update on next press.
What is the multiball controlling in this case? I mean, what is it mapped to in traktor?
Nedra Fresneda
16.01.2012
yes, then the ball and the midi messages attached to it will vanish and update on next press.
Lynetta Stanislav
16.01.2012
Ok will give multi ball a go in ephemeral mode , I put the mutli ball object in editor and into ephemeral mode and the ball disappears do you just touch and move anywhere in the box to make it scrub .
Dionne Bullock
15.01.2012
Originally Posted by neilmcm
Its more something just to scrub through the track than use as a jogwheel.
Even if you strip down the function to just scrubbing, multi-ball is still the way to go.
Lynetta Stanislav
15.01.2012
Its more something just to scrub through the track than use as a jogwheel.
Dionne Bullock
15.01.2012
You mean "object"? Knob has a circular shape and there is an endless mode that you can program to work like an encoder, but doesn't have a z variable so you can't emulate the "jog touch". You'll need a separate button to activate jog touch.

You'll need some scripting but you can probably get something working as a scrubber using the multi-ball in ephemeral mode.
Lynetta Stanislav
15.01.2012
I am tracking to add something on my template to use like a jogwheel to scroll through tracks so I can add cue points , what would the best icon to use

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