diy controller
diy controller Posted on: 27.12.2012 by Lori Altmiller So I've seen loads of people have made these so I want in on the action.How do I do it lol. If I use a pc controller can I set up say 16 buttons and a pot like midi fighter. Or could I even use one of these? Check out this item I found on eBay: http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item...d=370719132553 | |
| Caridad Fan 30.12.2012 | it's connected as all electrics components are connected for example to an arduino. maybe you should start with simple electronics tutorials. teensy website has some. the analogue are just for analogues but you have more than enough digital inputs even without a matrix like I showed. its own ort?? check the tutorials on the teensy website. |
| Lori Altmiller 30.12.2012 | So how is that connected to the teensy? Does anyone know if the teensy analogue outputs double up as digital? So will it be as simple as wiring 16 buttons to its own port on the teensy and then coding and mapping? |
| Caridad Fan 31.12.2012 | wire, solder, buttons and the teensy. i'm also kind of a newbie. I have some knowledge because i've been researching stuff like this for a while. http://blog.makezine.com/2008/12/04/...rix-of-elegan/ i've used that tutorial. It's pretty simple. You have a loop that checks which inputs are pressed. When it finds two pressed it knows which button was pressed. |
| Lori Altmiller 31.12.2012 |
Originally Posted by sendoushi
Whats a matrix? What parts will i need? |
| Caridad Fan 30.12.2012 | from what i've seen the version one is better. i will use multiplexer chip for the analogs. for the buttons i just use a simple matrix. To do a midifighter is pretty simple to do with teensy and a matrix. you can do that cheap. |
| Lori Altmiller 30.12.2012 |
Originally Posted by sendoushi
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| Weldon Dilg 30.12.2012 | Any multiplexing or is it the plain straight up connections? The 12 analogue input limitation is pretty low for me as I was aiming to make one with lots of pots for synth/effect control. |
| Caridad Fan 30.12.2012 | i use a teensy. I've done all the code that i need for analog, encoders and buttons... and may I say... It's pretty simple and cheap and you won't need any 3rd party software. give it a try! |
| Kellie Myrum 29.12.2012 | HID - Human Interface Device, it's protocol which helps computer to talk with devices. Google it. Not much, I'm more like mapping guy here but I'm sure there are some users who can share their thoughts on teensy... Although there is ton of threads already going on. Tick, tick, tick, click... |
| Lori Altmiller 29.12.2012 | eh? whats hid. lol im in over my head here. Do you know much of teensy steve? |
| Kellie Myrum 29.12.2012 | MF3D controls remix deck trough HID protocol similar as kontrol F1. |
| Weldon Dilg 29.12.2012 | Using a gamepad you rely almost completely on the software translation to do anything funky in MIDI. Any usb gamepad will do, often the cheaper the better as they don't have any complex drivers or multi-layer circuit boards to worry about. The one I'm using looks like it may be possible to drill through and make the wire mountings 'through hole' which will make it more sturdy. Ill probably do a little build log of mine, just gotta get back to uni cause I ordered all the pushbuttons to my flat there! Opted for super cheap 6x6x17mm momentary switches and got a readers digest hardback from the charity shop for 50p for the case, less than a tenner all in including the pad, not too bad. Got this one for the next mod, gonna keep the analogue sticks I believe, they have pushbuttons built in. http://www.amazon.co.uk/COMPUTER-GAM...6823299&sr=1-4 |
| Lori Altmiller 29.12.2012 | bummer. so would be crap for remix decks? Cant seem to find any info on how the mf is able to control 16 cells of the remix deck assigned to each button. Yet people do seem to build diy midi's and use mf sample packs. This is all so baffling. |
| Kellie Myrum 29.12.2012 |
Originally Posted by troopa
ok for multiple button presses? can you press the directin buttons together as ive heard thats a problem as you would never press left and right together in a game.....
Im believeing a pc one with turbo buttons, the lot hehe
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2806632612...84.m1423.l2649 maybe.. |
| Lori Altmiller 29.12.2012 | aaah. Whats the response like? ok for multiple button presses? can you press the directin buttons together as ive heard thats a problem as you would never press left and right together in a game..... Im believeing a pc one with turbo buttons, the lot hehe http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2806632612...84.m1423.l2649 maybe.. |
| Kellie Myrum 29.12.2012 | It was cheap one really, kind a PS 12 buttons gamepad. |
| Lori Altmiller 29.12.2012 | Think i'll try the gamepad 1st... Which one did you use? |
| Kellie Myrum 29.12.2012 | Yea Livid ain't cheap but it's easy to set and support any type of control. Check their facebook page - I saw new mini brain version they're working on, I'll be checking it out once it's released. Hopefully not very long time after NAMM. |
| Weldon Dilg 29.12.2012 | The teensy is pretty good if you're prepared to do a little soldering and coding, I have no knowledge of the coding side but am looking into it for the controller I make after the usb gamepad one I have planned. |
| Lori Altmiller 29.12.2012 | Them brains aint cheap lol |
| Xenia Gorin 28.12.2012 | Word!! That looks like just what Ive been looking for!! Thanks! When I get something started Ill be sure to open a new thread, lol!! |
| Kellie Myrum 28.12.2012 |
Originally Posted by soundinsurgent712
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| Xenia Gorin 28.12.2012 | Cool! Nothing special really, I was believeing of something along the lines of the Pioneer DJM-T1 but having separate buttons for the remix decks and cue points. I'd like to add o e of the spare MAYA44's I have lying around, lol! |
| Lori Altmiller 28.12.2012 | No probs mate, breaks up all my stupid questions haha. But you can share your ideas with us....... |
| Xenia Gorin 28.12.2012 | @Stewe, where can I find a list of boards that don't need the 3rd party software, just straight USB. Not trying to hijack the thread, just interested in this stuff as Well. I have some ideas in my head, lol!! Oh also which ones can use endless encoders?? Thanks for the time and info |
| Lori Altmiller 28.12.2012 | Sorry my bad. its each slot 1,2,3,4 but each slot has 4 banks so 16. sorry. There is a mf map that allows you to play 16 samples from the remix decl. so could we not use that? or is that what you mean by hack? |
| Kellie Myrum 29.12.2012 | Each 64, did you use hack? |
| Lori Altmiller 29.12.2012 | I have looked in the mapping and its seems possible to assign a button to play each slot in the remix decks? am i missing something? So will that cb board do what i want? or even a pc controller modified? |
| Kellie Myrum 28.12.2012 |
Originally Posted by troopa
So here's what I want to build. 20 button. 16 on top for effects and 4 extra buttons on the sides one of which can switch me between fx mode and remix deck mode so I can just play samples. Is this possible and what will I need.
And just out of curiosity what would it take to make instant gratification? Or is that all in the map??
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| Lori Altmiller 28.12.2012 | So it's the ability to use several fx at once to activate new effects? So here's what I want to build. 20 button. 16 on top for effects and 4 extra buttons on the sides one of which can switch me between fx mode and remix deck mode so I can just play samples. Is this possible and what will I need. And just out of curiosity what would it take to make instant gratification? Or is that all in the map?? |
| Kellie Myrum 27.12.2012 |
Originally Posted by troopa
What program would I need on mac osx?
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| Lori Altmiller 27.12.2012 |
Originally Posted by Stewe
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| Kellie Myrum 27.12.2012 | Here's peace of it in action : It was originally designed for Instant Gratification effects. |
| Kellie Myrum 27.12.2012 | My board was USB gamepad like mentioned. My friend made box for me and all I did was to solider everything together and made top plate out of peace of laminate. It's still under construction tho, need to add fourth row of arcades and LED feedback. I'm using Rejoice HID-MIDI converter which is pretty easy to configure but it's only windows I believe. |
| Lori Altmiller 27.12.2012 | To be honest im really new to this modding game. I'd soon be able to figure it out if explained to me, but initially im lost. how did you build yours, what pcb? any conversion software needed? you have a build link? Cheers for the help so far stewe! |
| Kellie Myrum 27.12.2012 | Why not 20? That way you can have 16 buttons for transport and effects and four more for bank selection. It's easier than hacking gamepad and solider wires directly to board like I did |
| Lori Altmiller 27.12.2012 | hmmm. how easy would be to just make a simple 16 button unit like the midi fighter just to trigger one shot samples? then i could map effects to trigger on the samples if i wish. |
| Kellie Myrum 27.12.2012 | It support 2 analog joysticks or four knobs. Not so sure about encoders... |
| Lori Altmiller 27.12.2012 |
Originally Posted by Stewe
Although i would like 2 encoder pots. 1 for scrolling effects and one for wet dry. Then maybe a beatmasher build up, so 4 buttons. sync, play/pause, hotcues, and hotcue delete. anything else? lol Wpuld that pcb in the link work for encoders, analogue inputs? |
| Kellie Myrum 27.12.2012 | It support 22 buttons so it would be ideal for MF clone but since it send HID signal you should use loopMIDI or some other virtual MIDI cable and HID-MIDI convertor to send MIDI to Software. Have a look at my gamepad DIY controller: |
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