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Posted on: 27.12.2012 by Lori Altmiller
So I've seen loads of people have made these so I want in on the action.
How do I do it lol. If I use a pc controller can I set up say 16 buttons and a pot like midi fighter.
Or could I even use one of these?

Check out this item I found on eBay: http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item...d=370719132553
Rachael Tureson
12.02.2013
Originally Posted by 32Digits
Did you looked here: http://www.pjrc.com/teensy/index.html compares the teensy's next to each other,

I thought the 3.0 had less than the 2.0++
Originally Posted by ErikMinekus
The amount of pins don't really matter if you use shift registers, they allow you to connect dozens of inputs or outputs to just a few pins. The Teensy 2.0 has an 8-bit AVR processor at 16Mhz and the 3.0 has a 32-bit ARM processor at 48Mhz, which is an entirely different architecture, but a lot more powerful. It's also pretty new and doesn't support everything the 2.0 supports yet, so it all depends on your needs.

welllllll turns out im dumb as hell, i didnt see your posts guys and wound up absentmindedly getting the 3.0

I'm guessing its safer to return it and order the 2.0++ seeing as I'm in new territory already and there won't be as many tutorials/sketches available for 3.0?
what do you believe

gah im dumb
Kyra Ramquist
08.02.2013
Originally Posted by 32Digits
Did you looked here: http://www.pjrc.com/teensy/index.html compares the teensy's next to each other,

I thought the 3.0 had less than the 2.0++
The amount of pins don't really matter if you use shift registers, they allow you to connect dozens of inputs or outputs to just a few pins. The Teensy 2.0 has an 8-bit AVR processor at 16Mhz and the 3.0 has a 32-bit ARM processor at 48Mhz, which is an entirely different architecture, but a lot more powerful. It's also pretty new and doesn't support everything the 2.0 supports yet, so it all depends on your needs.
Awilda Boggie
08.02.2013
Originally Posted by thesalivationarmy
just want to double check before making a purchase (hi everyone, hope im not derailing, had the same questions as 32Digits on page 12 of this thread, seeing as I have -way- more buttons/pots/encoders than 16 planned for my project, i should go the teensy 3.0 route and not
brain jr. yeah? Attachment 15524
tia & continue on!
Did you looked here: http://www.pjrc.com/teensy/index.html compares the teensy's next to each other,

I thought the 3.0 had less than the 2.0++

Originally Posted by Stewe
Guys you should check this out:
thanks for sharing this with us That's really great what he's doing there!
Kellie Myrum
09.02.2013
Originally Posted by soundinsurgent712
I believe I'm throwing in the towel on the Teensy now that we can order the Livid brain Jr.
It's great peace, I'll be getting one in future for sure
Rachael Tureson
05.02.2013
Originally Posted by Joel Santos
from what I know, you're limited to the number of pins you have on the livid brain and on teensy, since you can code on it, you can matrix or shift register. Third: Since you can code on Teensy you can (with good code) have better latency results (although the differences won't be that big, you won't notice)
just want to double check before making a purchase (hi everyone, hope im not derailing, had the same questions as 32Digits on page 12 of this thread, seeing as I have -way- more buttons/pots/encoders than 16 planned for my project, i should go the teensy 3.0 route and not
brain jr. yeah? The PLan.jpg
tia & continue on!
Awilda Boggie
05.02.2013
Originally Posted by soundinsurgent712
Man o man!! My son and I got started toevening and there is a lot to read and download as well, lol!! Were going through the Teensy tutorials now, just started with the Adruino stuff. This is more work then I thought, well I should say I need more patients, lmao!! Anyways were gonna go with a cigar box with about 8 buttons for the first project. I figure that'll give us a good start. Hopefully the Livid boards will be ready by then cause I believe they'll be much easier to work with, none of this programming stuff. Anyways I'm off to bed and I'll keep posting our progress with pics when it's time. Thanks for the info and time........
haha

Well you are getting a good quality father-son time ^^

Good luck !
Rachael Tureson
12.02.2013		holy hell, that's impressive.
allriiiight, well, I did want a learning experience, so I guess I'll keep my 3.0. To be fair they both cost as much as a bar tab, so if I can't handle it, guess it won't hurt to have an extra microcontroller for future projects. Thanks for the heads up!
Kyra Ramquist
12.02.2013		I was in the same bind as you about 3 weeks ago, as I'm also new to this, but did end up going with the Teensy++ 2.0 to be on the safe side, since the 3.0 didn't support MIDI and HID yet (it does now). The Stomper uses the ++ 2.0, so it's still pretty powerful, and it has the same architecture as Arduino, so you can be sure all the same code works on it. On the other hand, all the libraries that come with Teensyduino have been updated for the 3.0, so it's only third-party libraries you might have to worry about.

So again, if you really want to be on the safe side and can still return it, get the ++ 2.0, otherwise the 3.0 will serve you just fine. It's even more powerful than the ++ 2.0 (and I'm already impressed with that one).
Rachael Tureson
12.02.2013
Originally Posted by 32Digits
Did you looked here: http://www.pjrc.com/teensy/index.html compares the teensy's next to each other,

I thought the 3.0 had less than the 2.0++
Originally Posted by ErikMinekus
The amount of pins don't really matter if you use shift registers, they allow you to connect dozens of inputs or outputs to just a few pins. The Teensy 2.0 has an 8-bit AVR processor at 16Mhz and the 3.0 has a 32-bit ARM processor at 48Mhz, which is an entirely different architecture, but a lot more powerful. It's also pretty new and doesn't support everything the 2.0 supports yet, so it all depends on your needs.

welllllll turns out im dumb as hell, i didnt see your posts guys and wound up absentmindedly getting the 3.0

I'm guessing its safer to return it and order the 2.0++ seeing as I'm in new territory already and there won't be as many tutorials/sketches available for 3.0?
what do you believe

gah im dumb
Kyra Ramquist
08.02.2013
Originally Posted by 32Digits
Did you looked here: http://www.pjrc.com/teensy/index.html compares the teensy's next to each other,

I thought the 3.0 had less than the 2.0++
The amount of pins don't really matter if you use shift registers, they allow you to connect dozens of inputs or outputs to just a few pins. The Teensy 2.0 has an 8-bit AVR processor at 16Mhz and the 3.0 has a 32-bit ARM processor at 48Mhz, which is an entirely different architecture, but a lot more powerful. It's also pretty new and doesn't support everything the 2.0 supports yet, so it all depends on your needs.
Awilda Boggie
08.02.2013
Originally Posted by thesalivationarmy
just want to double check before making a purchase (hi everyone, hope im not derailing, had the same questions as 32Digits on page 12 of this thread, seeing as I have -way- more buttons/pots/encoders than 16 planned for my project, i should go the teensy 3.0 route and not
brain jr. yeah? Attachment 15524
tia & continue on!
Did you looked here: http://www.pjrc.com/teensy/index.html compares the teensy's next to each other,

I thought the 3.0 had less than the 2.0++

Originally Posted by Stewe
Guys you should check this out:
thanks for sharing this with us That's really great what he's doing there!
Kellie Myrum
09.02.2013
Originally Posted by soundinsurgent712
I believe I'm throwing in the towel on the Teensy now that we can order the Livid brain Jr.
It's great peace, I'll be getting one in future for sure
Xenia Gorin
09.02.2013		I believe I'm throwing in the towel on the Teensy now that we can order the Livid brain Jr.
Xenia Gorin
07.02.2013		I guess that's the part that really stumps me, the coding...... I'm having a hard time grasping it. Lol!! And then I have to try and explain it to a 11 year old, lmmfao!!

That video is what I'm wanting. I thought that's basically the way the Livid brain2 works but it's on pre order so I had to roll with the Teensy.....
Kellie Myrum
07.02.2013		Guys you should check this out:
Kyra Ramquist
07.02.2013		What do you need to know exactly? You can connect each button to a pin on the Teensy, and them from code you read which buttons are pressed and you send MIDI notes or control changes (CCs). If you have Teensyduino installed you can go to File > Examples > Teensy > USB_MIDI > Buttons for an example.
Xenia Gorin
07.02.2013		OK we've been going through the Teensy tutorials and I'm still have a hard time understanding how were gonna turn all this into a controller of some sort....... I figured we'd start with something like 8 arcade buttons and use it for cue points or the sampler. Can anybody help me understand this better??
Rachael Tureson
05.02.2013
Originally Posted by Joel Santos
from what I know, you're limited to the number of pins you have on the livid brain and on teensy, since you can code on it, you can matrix or shift register. Third: Since you can code on Teensy you can (with good code) have better latency results (although the differences won't be that big, you won't notice)
just want to double check before making a purchase (hi everyone, hope im not derailing, had the same questions as 32Digits on page 12 of this thread, seeing as I have -way- more buttons/pots/encoders than 16 planned for my project, i should go the teensy 3.0 route and not
brain jr. yeah? The PLan.jpg
tia & continue on!
Xenia Gorin
05.02.2013		Yeah no doubt, he's excited so that's what really counts. Toevening we are going through the Teensy tutorial so we'll be able to try out some leds and stuff.
Awilda Boggie
05.02.2013
Originally Posted by soundinsurgent712
Man o man!! My son and I got started toevening and there is a lot to read and download as well, lol!! Were going through the Teensy tutorials now, just started with the Adruino stuff. This is more work then I thought, well I should say I need more patients, lmao!! Anyways were gonna go with a cigar box with about 8 buttons for the first project. I figure that'll give us a good start. Hopefully the Livid boards will be ready by then cause I believe they'll be much easier to work with, none of this programming stuff. Anyways I'm off to bed and I'll keep posting our progress with pics when it's time. Thanks for the info and time........
haha

Well you are getting a good quality father-son time ^^

Good luck !
Xenia Gorin
05.02.2013		Man o man!! My son and I got started toevening and there is a lot to read and download as well, lol!! Were going through the Teensy tutorials now, just started with the Adruino stuff. This is more work then I thought, well I should say I need more patients, lmao!! Anyways were gonna go with a cigar box with about 8 buttons for the first project. I figure that'll give us a good start. Hopefully the Livid boards will be ready by then cause I believe they'll be much easier to work with, none of this programming stuff. Anyways I'm off to bed and I'll keep posting our progress with pics when it's time. Thanks for the info and time........
Lang Abriel
31.01.2013		Hmmm, looks like theres some good stuff, unfortunately none of the pics are showing up for me. Specifically im looking for endless push encoders and single small pads like the flux mode pad on the z2.

Edit: The pics are fine, my browser was messed up
Awilda Boggie
31.01.2013		not cheap but here:

http://www.mpcstuff.com/akai-mpc-pad-sets.html
Lang Abriel
31.01.2013		No other recommended sites for pads besides livid?
Awilda Boggie
31.01.2013		why doesn't DJTT sell pcb's?


not necessarily the MF pcbs but a bit like Livid but then you could get every part from DJTT: knobs, faders, etc...: this started as such a community no? DJ tech + tools
Stan Brevil
31.01.2013		I just wanted to say thanks to everyone who has contributed so far to this. Super helpful thread. I've been believeing about building a controller for a long time and there's a lot of good insight here
Herma Buschelman
30.01.2013
Originally Posted by soundinsurgent712
Those don't have jog wheels or a crossfader and I can see them in your video. Did you mod them or something??
oh you mean the white thing. yea, that is a modded up controller I built from two DJ Tech VTT 101s. the idea was that the middle space was open for an ipad/ipod/tablet, and other midi controllers.
Xenia Gorin
30.01.2013		Those don't have jog wheels or a crossfader and I can see them in your video. Did you mod them or something??
Herma Buschelman
29.01.2013
Originally Posted by soundinsurgent712
What's that under your laptop??
a stanton scs3m
Xenia Gorin
29.01.2013		What's that under your laptop??
Herma Buschelman
29.01.2013		you can use an xbox controller. i paid $29 for this one at bestbuy.
Lang Abriel
28.01.2013		any other options on pads from other sites, especially small velocity sensitive pads? as well as endless encoders?

Basically good sites recommended for parts ?
Xenia Gorin
28.01.2013		Well the Livid brain v2's are only preorder, boo, lol!! Anybody know when they'll be available?? Got my buttons and lights all ready to go.......
Xenia Gorin
14.01.2013		Cool! Looks like that Teensy is hittin the back burner, lol!! That just made this project a hell of a lot easier. Thanks for the info!
Kellie Myrum
14.01.2013		Teensy requires some coding and Livid is just plug'n'play.
Xenia Gorin
14.01.2013		OK let me make sure I'm understanding this,
If I go with the Teensy or Livid, those are both plug n play. Meaning I just add buttons, lights, faders, etc,etc and when I plug it.into say Traktor or VDJ, I should just be able to map them and have fun......

But if I go with the Duino I'll have to learn code in order to get the buttons, light, etc, etc to show up in Traktor or VDJ??
Janyce Henningson
13.01.2013		Don't forget you don't have to use the livid components and buttons/faders.
You can solder your own direct to some board, or direct to the brain and use them. The Livid pre-made button/fader/encoder boards are just easier that's all.

From what you have said 32Digits, the Livid may be best - duino code is easy - but if you are new to programming then the Livid is Plug (solder) And Play and much easier.
Caridad Fan
13.01.2013
Originally Posted by Stewe
Unless you use Brain v2. It connects up to 128 buttons.
Well... yes there you go ehehe
Kellie Myrum
13.01.2013
Originally Posted by Joel Santos
Teensy can have like... 100 buttons, you can't achieve that with livid because you can't really use matrix and shift registers.
Unless you use Brain v2. It connects up to 128 buttons.
Caridad Fan
13.01.2013
Originally Posted by 32Digits
ok thank you for your help

I really appreciate it!


Edit: I also was wondering let's suppose I'd use black buttons with transparent rim,

(how) would it be possible to let them 'shine' with different colours?

Edit2: That makes teensy cost +- 41 (with shipping), the livid brain jr = 49$.

Is it worth going for the teensy?
Are you sure it's 41? Seems a little more from what I paid and i'm in europe! 49 + shipment right? It really depends on what you want to do. Do you want to know about electronics? A little about code? Go with teensy. Do you want an almost plug n play solution? You don't really worry about money? Go with livid. Teensy can have like... 100 buttons, you can't achieve that with livid because you can't really use matrix and shift registers.

Originally Posted by soundinsurgent712
@Stewe,

How easy are these buttons, http://shop.lividinstruments.com/4x1-omni-keypads/ to hook up? Also can these be used with the Teensy board?
To the livid? Easy. To the teensy? You have to know how electronics work

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