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|Build Log| - DIY midi gamepad controller
Posted on: 07.12.2010 by Jacqualine Arroyos
hello all,
(first of all, sorry for my bad english... i'm from portugal)

i've started my controller project.





will be based on:

2 gamepads
1 sound board
30 arcade buttons
2 sliders
8 knobs
1 line in
1 line out

the box is an old plumber tool box that i've found in a Lisbon flea market



since this project will have to be as low cost as possible, i've spend some time searching for the correct design (to prevent mistakes) and also good but not expensive components

at this point i've encontered the first problem...

keeping in mind that the only experience in electronics that i have is to turn on and off the power button of my pc...

said that, please be patience, and please sorry for some of my stupid questions...

so the problem are the LED...

i've managed to connect the analog potentiometer to the PCB and to a LED, it works fine...




but when i connect the button the LED light is not bright...



here you can see what is appening

what am i doing wrong?

thanking you in advanced
Margo Gilb
21.12.2010
No I also tried endless rotaries on my gamepad pcb... no way you need some sort of "translator" because it sends 1-O-1-O-1-O-1-O...
Jacqualine Arroyos
20.12.2010
really?
Graham Frazier
20.12.2010
Sorry no endless rotary(rotary encoder) with a gamepad.
Jacqualine Arroyos
20.12.2010
my fault...

it seams that it's for audio use...

i got it from a local buy yourself electronics store, this time i asked for help...

lets see how it works...

in adition to my project, i've also got a light sensor resistor, hope it works well...

next thing in my mind is to get a a endless rotary... how could i connect it?
Arcelia Siebeneck
20.12.2010
that's why I was asking if it's linear... if it's a stereo fader then it might be log (for audio use only)... where did you get the fader from?
Cammy Clegg
20.12.2010
Originally Posted by fbonito
hi,

i finally found a acrylic shop, i seams that all of the acrylic shops (6) i knew are now closed...

but i finally found one open, the top will be ready next week :-D

at this point i have all of the soldering of one pad ready and tested



but i have a problem, i don't know how to connect the fades... i've tried all possible combinations and none worked...



is it possible that its burned?



do you have any idea how to connect it?


thanks
I have the same problem with mine. like no matter which way the pot is it carries current.
Arcelia Siebeneck
20.12.2010
is it definitely a linear fader?
Jacqualine Arroyos
21.12.2010
i believe i figure it out....

those slides are stereo...
Jacqualine Arroyos
17.12.2010
hi archie, i've tested it with the joypad, and the analog switch is on, it works with a knob, but i didn't manage to make it work with the slide.

also, this slide have 6 contacts, and i have no clue what is what...
Shay Wyche
17.12.2010
Have you connected the slider to the joypad or tested it with a meter. Sometimes the analogue switch on the joypad needs to be pressed before you can get any data out of it in your software.
Jacqualine Arroyos
16.12.2010
hi,

i finally found a acrylic shop, i seams that all of the acrylic shops (6) i knew are now closed...

but i finally found one open, the top will be ready next week :-D

at this point i have all of the soldering of one pad ready and tested



but i have a problem, i don't know how to connect the fades... i've tried all possible combinations and none worked...



is it possible that its burned?



do you have any idea how to connect it?


thanks
Jacqualine Arroyos
12.12.2010
hi,

there will be a acrilic top, with all of the componetes divided in acrilic boxes (some old acrilic photo archives that i have laying arround)

i'm begining to believe that the ir sensor is probably too dificult to build...

maybe if i find ir sensor kit that is just to solder and plug...

i'm not planing to use this controller in clubs... i'm more in to experimental music and improvised performances
Chau Honrado
11.12.2010
looking forwards to seeing this all finished up!

will look sweet in the wooden case,

how are you planning to mount all the components internally?

and as far as im aware youd just need another analogue input for the IR sensor?

though, having seen people attempt similar in the past, can be fairly unstable in a club environment
Jacqualine Arroyos
09.12.2010
just woundering how dificult it will be to incorporate a infrared sensor on the box??

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HWQhY1StF7o
Shay Wyche
09.12.2010
Good stuff there. If I can help again I will, but I'm not an electronics expert, I just enjoy tearing things to bits.
Jacqualine Arroyos
09.12.2010
Originally Posted by extraclassic
Whats the sound board you're using?
just a cheap usb sound board, only with a line in and a line out.

the way i'm doing it every single componet can be upgraded in the future

the gamepads can be upgraded to a ardiuno or similar, the sound board can be upgraded to have more inputs, etc. etc.

the interior connections are all usb, and there are extra usb slots to connect more exterior modules
Random X
09.12.2010
This is becoming more and more interesting per new post!
Joan Kollmorgen
09.12.2010
Whats the sound board you're using?
Jacqualine Arroyos
09.12.2010
yes and no....

hehehhe

there are 8 knobs, 6 knobs for the gamepad and 2 to controll volume of headphones and line in, this knobs will be independent
Joan Kollmorgen
09.12.2010
In your picture it looks like you've got 8 pots and 2 faders to me?

That would equal 10 analog hence 3 game pads?
Jacqualine Arroyos
09.12.2010
actually i will only need two gamepads.

my gamepads have 18 buttons + 4 analogue each, so i will have 36 buttons + 8 analog.

more than enought
Joan Kollmorgen
09.12.2010
I believe you're gonna need at least 3 game pads to make that design.

Love the case by the way..
Jacqualine Arroyos
09.12.2010
here is the layout...

Wava Egizi
09.12.2010
The retro style is kool!

Good luck with all your gamepad soldering
Marnie Pomeranz
09.12.2010
the old box gives it a very retro feel so retro all most an antique feel lol love it
Maryanne Weatherill
08.12.2010
Love the old antique looking case dude even though personally i do prefer metal casing mainly because im an animal on gear:L
Jacqualine Arroyos
08.12.2010
Originally Posted by Maxted
Should go for wooden buttons and knobs
nop...

Jacqualine Arroyos
08.12.2010
i've found it...



great, it works great....

there's a contact on the pcb, but in the cable there is a more "clean" connection


thanks archie
Shay Wyche
08.12.2010
Originally Posted by fbonito
I never imagined that the box would lead to this big debate...

I've chosen the box precisely by the character, its history, I do not want a plastic thing without a soul ...

and it will be very good looking when it's finished

Archie, thanks for the sketch, I'll try to see if I can get it to work
Best place to find 5v is on the incoming cable. Good luck.
Melinda Shick
08.12.2010
Should go for wooden buttons and knobs
Jacqualine Arroyos
08.12.2010
I never imagined that the box would lead to this big debate...

I've chosen the box precisely by the character, its history, I do not want a plastic thing without a soul ...

and it will be very good looking when it's finished

Archie, thanks for the sketch, I'll try to see if I can get it to work
Franklin Momany
08.12.2010
W/e, I'm over this. I'm just saying there is no need to bash a suggestion. I'm just trying to help, no harm intended. Hope your midi turns out nice.
Tatum Ansaldo
08.12.2010
Originally Posted by deviantdigi
If your so closed minded to suggestions why even post? Sure it looks great hopes all is well blah blah blah.
I'd say that suggesting a plastic box instead of a vintage toolbox was closed minded
Franklin Momany
08.12.2010
If your so closed minded to suggestions why even post? Sure it looks great hopes all is well blah blah blah.
Marguerite Salsedo
08.12.2010
Originally Posted by MrPopinjay
Dude! What are you on about? That old box is way cooler than any crappy bit of plastic. You need some style man :P
+1 the old box is awesome and unique. Also maybe have a surface on the inside of the box in which you mount all of the pots, sliders, buttons, etc.
That way the lid of the box still serves as a cover for it and you basically have something that has it's own built in case.

Also, maybe take a look into replacing those hooks with something a little more stable for keeping the lid on?
Kiyoko Wellisch
09.12.2010
Oh wowzer. A plain old bit of moulded plastic, just like 95% of the other electronics I own. How can you not believe that box is cool? It has so much character!
Franklin Momany
09.12.2010




http://www.westfloridacomponents.com/ProjectBoxes.html
Kiyoko Wellisch
08.12.2010
Dude! What are you on about? That old box is way cooler than any crappy bit of plastic. You need some style man :P
Franklin Momany
07.12.2010
I'd like to see what you can do with the supplies.

Wouldn't you rather spend a couple bucks and get some better buttons etc? The box/suitcase looks rather worn, big and heavy. I mean you can find nice yet cheap plastic project boxes at radioshack.
Shay Wyche
07.12.2010
Originally Posted by oskars
I like the idea of having a LED to the pot!

I'm going to follow this for sure =)
It's pretty easy, follow the tutorial here.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NAosgd9Cy6U

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