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Traktor Z1
Posted on: 11.06.2013 by Janella Gripe
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Qiana Castellucci
12.06.2013
Originally Posted by makar1
A hardware mixer like the Z2 would be far more suitable for CDJ/turntable use.


The Z2 mixes internally so there's no need to use the Z1 sound card at all. All decks go straight to the Master Output of the Z2.
Shows how often I use decks 3 and 4 If course, you're right. This just makes it even more interesting from a "mucking about at home" perspective - id not bother out as I use CDJ's/4 channel mixer/TT's. The Z2 is just one of the home setups for playing with.
Karolis Petrauskas
12.06.2013
Originally Posted by makar1
A hardware mixer like the Z2 would be far more suitable for CDJ/turntable use.
Agreed, I was just mentioning one of the ways it could be used. I already have an X1 so I'd be fine with the Z1 (I also have external mixers and a bunch of other crap in my arsenal).
Alphonso Deitchman
12.06.2013
Originally Posted by bigbeatzz
Z1 + X1 + Turntables or CDJ's + Laptop = Raise the roof.
A hardware mixer like the Z2 would be far more suitable for CDJ/turntable use.

Originally Posted by iambiggles
Would you take the outs of the Z1 into the Aux input of the Z2? Pretty tidy setup as it happens - I have a Z2 and might be tempted to try this for a bit of fun.
The Z2 mixes internally so there's no need to use the Z1 sound card at all. All decks go straight to the Master Output of the Z2.
Qiana Castellucci
12.06.2013
Originally Posted by hellnegative
You just blew my mind. Specially since the z2 does have audio output for channels c and d. This would give you faders and eq for them as well. I might just be buying a z2 and z1 now.
Would you take the outs of the Z1 into the Aux input of the Z2? Pretty tidy setup as it happens - I have a Z2 and might be tempted to try this for a bit of fun.
Karolis Petrauskas
12.06.2013
Originally Posted by lethal_pizzle
When I got Traktor DJ for the iPad, I thought 'what I want is a hardware mixer that'll charge my iPad'. This is the solution. It'll also be useful for people that want some modular setup with their F1s etc. I'm sure that NI will release other solutions for other users too, they always do
This ^

I can throw this is any bag with my ipad and a portable speaker and jam out anywhere.

You can use this thing in at least 3 setups:

Z1 + iPad = Portable fun
Z1 + X1 + Laptop = Portable fun with a bit more power. (I also see this as a nice solution for 2 DJ's. Each one can have control their own decks and pump out of a house mixer.)
Z1 + X1 + Turntables or CDJ's + Laptop = Raise the roof.

I just pre-ordered here on DJTT. I believe while the Z1 is not a game changer, it definitely serves as a multi-purpose device. I am looking forward to getting crafty on it this summer. That said, my gear library is growing...I feel the need to purge some electronics.
Emelina Chillson
12.06.2013
Originally Posted by enorjy
so a Z1 connected to a Z2 kind of gives you a 4 channel mixer.
kind of believeing of giving this a try.
You just blew my mind. Specially since the z2 does have audio output for channels c and d. This would give you faders and eq for them as well. I might just be buying a z2 and z1 now.
Rochel Papillion
12.06.2013		so a Z1 connected to a Z2 kind of gives you a 4 channel mixer.
kind of believeing of giving this a try.
Alphonso Deitchman
12.06.2013
Originally Posted by geminimech
If that setup diagram back on pg. 14 came from NI (which it appears as though it did), the different permutations of the Z1 with a laptop and Traktor Pro show external power. It's also mentioned in the DJTT blog post that the 'adapter is required for use in all contexts'.
DJTT said the same about the Reloop Contour but that proved to be wrong. I guess it might be due to the way the power is supplied - from the controller to the host, which is quite unusual.

Also this could mean that Camera Connection Kits might not work with the Z1.
Monserrate Rupnow
12.06.2013
Originally Posted by geminimech
If that setup diagram back on pg. 14 came from NI (which it appears as though it did), the different permutations of the Z1 with a laptop and Traktor Pro show external power. It's also mentioned in the DJTT blog post that the 'adapter is required for use in all contexts'.
Thanks, I missed that.
Jerica Salava
12.06.2013		Anyone know if that Filter Knob will work as a filter in Traktor DJ?
Verlene Geevarghese
12.06.2013
Originally Posted by makar1
I would guess that the power supply is not required when using it with a computer, and is only needed for Ipad use.

If that setup diagram back on pg. 14 came from NI (which it appears as though it did), the different permutations of the Z1 with a laptop and Traktor Pro show external power. It's also mentioned in the DJTT blog post that the 'adapter is required for use in all contexts'.
Kristofer Krauel
12.06.2013
Originally Posted by Tarekith
I DJ at a local pub where other musicians like to hang out, and while it's always a fun time, lugging my speakers and the laptop S4 combo just seems overkill. Lately I've been just using the iPad and Traktor DJ and plugging into their house speakers, and it's been just as fun with none of the set up and transport issues. I miss seperate cueing and hardware control of the mixing though, so this looks like a really fun option for me.

Just hoping it doesn't NEED separate power if we don't want to charge the iPad, bus power is still preferred for me.
If you are going to use it with an ipad though you are going to want that mains power. The ipad battery is going to go insanely quick if its having to power the ipad, soundcard AND the LEDs on the unit.
Monserrate Rupnow
12.06.2013		I DJ at a local pub where other musicians like to hang out, and while it's always a fun time, lugging my speakers and the laptop S4 combo just seems overkill. Lately I've been just using the iPad and Traktor DJ and plugging into their house speakers, and it's been just as fun with none of the set up and transport issues. I miss seperate cueing and hardware control of the mixing though, so this looks like a really fun option for me.

Just hoping it doesn't NEED separate power if we don't want to charge the iPad, bus power is still preferred for me.
Samuel Stamaria
11.06.2013		For little parties/small time slots this can be INSANELY amazing.
Seriously takes away one of the gripes people had about dvs, the laptop and serato face! With my ipad mini and one of these things I could walk in ready to mix almost as compact as I do with my cd wallet!!
Georgie Lukowiak
11.06.2013		Z1 + F1 + X1 = super duper portable effective setup

I like what NI did here!
Mariko Oppenhuizen
11.06.2013
Originally Posted by makar1
I would guess that the power supply is not required when using it with a computer, and is only needed for Ipad use.

Yeah that's what i'm hoping for. I'm still waiting till more info about the sound card comes out, before I pull the trigger and pre-order it. I know it's 24-bit, but still want more info.
Alphonso Deitchman
11.06.2013
Originally Posted by lingk
I just wish it was bus powered, but I guess it needs it's own power to charge the Ipad.
I would guess that the power supply is not required when using it with a computer, and is only needed for Ipad use.
Mariko Oppenhuizen
11.06.2013		You know, I am considering this for the soundcard a little more then a midi controller for Tpro. Right now I use a K2 and an F1 and it's great simple, easy setup. 3 decks and Fx on the K2 and one remix deck with the f1. Why I like this is, the soundcard for one, If anyone has used the soundcard on the K2 knows it's soooo quiet. you have to crank the gain on any mixer you plug into.(I have plug it into djm-800/900, A&H 42/92) and no, it's not the cables.

Sure I could buy a better soundcard, but this gives me a better soundcard and an extra midi controller. With the Z1 I can use it for 2 decks, the k2 for 1 deck, loops, fxs, cues and the f1 still doing it's thing. I just wish it was bus powered, but I guess it needs it's own power to charge the Ipad.

As for sound quality with internal mixing, you have to be on a SUPER nice system to tell any difference, and most raves / clubs around here don't have that kind of quality and I would believe is the same story other places too.
If i ever get newer ipad, this could be cool for that for small house parties, but I'm in no rush for a newer ipad so.
Doreen Schurle
11.06.2013
Originally Posted by omnipo7ent
Hope the USB hub got that MTT technology.. MTT Just Kicked in YO! lol
It does Not that it really matters with MIDI, but if you're hooking up flash drives or HDDs, it'll help then.

Personally I plan on making a custom stand for the Kontrol Z1 which adds a balanced XLR conversion circuit, an 8-port USB hub, and possibly a microphone preamp.
Kati Garbo
11.06.2013
Originally Posted by MRG12EG
the behringer CMD MM-1 is a more professional unit... 4 channels, usb hub... i'd take the hit on the soundcard and get that unless you want iPad.



they nailed it with that hub
Hope the USB hub got that MTT technology.. MTT Just Kicked in YO! lol
Alla Bluemke
11.06.2013		I'm up in the air about it. The form factor, the idea is great. I almost want to get it to bring with me if I say go on a trip and want to DJ with my ipad somewhere. However the functionality of it just isn't fully enough for me to jump on board with it. As people have also mentioned traktor's quality isn't exactly the best. I mean I'm not going to compare it to a DJM2000, or Xone, but the vu's, gain, and volume overall on the s4/s2 were awful, the headphone volume was always really low. I personally would also still stick with a K2, the use out of that could be the only thing you need to carry if you wanted.
Doreen Schurle
11.06.2013
Originally Posted by D-Kem
Plus import tax. I loathe it. Florida in July for me. Already have an extensive shopping list.
Trudat. Not to mention shipping to the UK for me. Was $30 shipping for 3 USB cables last time I bought something from the DJTT store lol.
Lauretta Ehrhorn
11.06.2013		Plus import tax. I loathe it. Florida in July for me. Already have an extensive shopping list.
Julissa Serrone
11.06.2013
Originally Posted by NoizeImpact
I believe NI developed this midi-mixer with an eye on the iPad users and diehard controllerist. It's a nice addition if you are using some X1's and F1's. Same size, simple, basic, portable... Pretty much the only thing that was missing for a complete live-remixing setup.

Also a perfect solution if you want to play with friends or at a local house party and don't want to take your $1500 mixer (heavy, expensive, not portable) with you.

It's definitely not designed with the intension of replacing the traditional club mixer.
+1
Alphonso Deitchman
11.06.2013		They're both in the DJTT store at $249
Doreen Schurle
11.06.2013
Originally Posted by makar1
They're the same price?
They are? Hmmm... I was seeing
Latoria Kavulich
11.06.2013		can these be linked up similar to the K2? i haven't looked into it.
Doreen Schurle
11.06.2013
Originally Posted by johney
Where you put it, it looks like very convenient place to knock it off though.
True. To be honest, it's just a evening mare trying to fit a pitchfader on something the size of the X1/F1. Obviously the logical place for it is to the left/right of the jogwheels, but then you have to make them smaller If you put it next to the cuepoint pads, you have to reduce the spacing between the pads. Finding a decent layout is probably the reason why NI haven't made one yet tbh lol.
Alphonso Deitchman
11.06.2013
Originally Posted by mdcdesign
EDIT: Midifighter is WAY more expensive than the F1 though Plus having the encoder and per-channel volume/filter knobs is really, really nice.
They're the same price?
Augustine Mitzen
11.06.2013		Where you put it, it looks like very convenient place to knock it off though.
Doreen Schurle
11.06.2013
Originally Posted by Jester
fader needs to be on the side, no need for 3 crossfaders if they bought 2 and have a Z1 eh
That's a pitchfader :P Having it vertical has always seemed arbitrary to me... plus when you have your TTs in battle mode its horizontal

EDIT: Midifighter is WAY more expensive than the F1 though Plus having the encoder and per-channel volume/filter knobs is really, really nice.
Latoria Kavulich
11.06.2013		i use the 3d for the remix decks, i just don't use them enough to justify buying a dedicated controller for them. tbh i only use them to launch jingles for my radio show at the moment.
Latoria Kavulich
11.06.2013		fader needs to be on the side, no need for 3 crossfaders if they bought 2 and have a Z1 eh
Doreen Schurle
11.06.2013
Originally Posted by Jester
Dont get me wrong this Z1 looks badass, but just because its new and shiny doesn't mean you NEED it eh. We see more and more guys buying new kit and it just gathers dust on the desk because they didn't believe how to implement it in their own setup before buying. (i'm looking at you Mr. F1)
For me, a real mixer and 2 X1's is still the perfect setup.
Oh I dunno, after having it for ONE day I'm kicking myself for not buying the F1 sooner :P
Emelina Chillson
11.06.2013
Originally Posted by mdcdesign
Built in soundcard and it's all MIDI. It's basically a, "stop using a DJM and start using this with your X1s instead" device.

Only a matter of time before they release one of these too:

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Theyve needed to for quite a while
Latoria Kavulich
11.06.2013		Dont get me wrong this Z1 looks badass, but just because its new and shiny doesn't mean you NEED it eh. We see more and more guys buying new kit and it just gathers dust on the desk because they didn't believe how to implement it in their own setup before buying. (i'm looking at you Mr. F1)
For me, a real mixer and 2 X1's is still the perfect setup.
Alphonso Deitchman
11.06.2013		I'm happy with my VCM 100 for my portable setup. It has way more controls, amazing build quality, and I got it for about half the price of the Z1.

Only thing that's missing is TDJ's generic MIDI support..
Doreen Schurle
11.06.2013
Originally Posted by Jester
nope. looking at the cmd micro for some more portability options actually.
Not enough knobs and encoders on that one for me haha ;P
Latoria Kavulich
11.06.2013		nope. looking at the cmd micro for some more portability options actually.
Doreen Schurle
11.06.2013
Originally Posted by Jester
Nice addition to the lineup.
Will you be picking one up?

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