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Clown DJ's
Posted on: 14.05.2012 by Darren Teboe
I was planning on posting this here and over on DJF, but someone already beat me to it there. I'm anticipating this to stir up some passionate feelings in certain people in both directions...

http://robcifre.com/2012/05/11/the-c...m-music-scene/

I remember in the 90s when hip hop was damn good. When it was about the good life, being fun and energetic like, De La Soul or Tribe Called Quest, or when it was about real life in the streets like NaS, Smif-N-Wessun, Pete Rock… and in like all music you had the clowns, people like Vanilla Ice, MC Hammer etc… But in the golden age of hip hop you would notice that you can name more of the ‘real’ artists then you could clowns.

Fast forward to today, the ‘real’ artists talking about real things don’t have much of a voice anymore. On the radio, on TV you hear and see these amazing performances. Songs written by other people. A dance choreographer to make sure all the moves are correct. A visual stylist to make sure the right image is being portrayed. I don’t watch much TV or listen to the radio at all, but i can name more clowns in todays music scene then I can the real players.

MC Hammer in his clown suit. Hip Hop at its finest?

What has happened in the music industry? Business happened. The goal is to make money. Most people start off real and then become this bubble gum pop artist to start to appeal to a bigger demographic. Ever wonder why everyone always says ‘yeah I like so and so but his/her stuff isn’t as good as when they first came out’. There is a reason for that. Money and the labels that basically own the artists now control the artist, the music and the image.

DJ Bl3nd... This guy's mask was stolen and he stopped the music until he got it back.

I’m now seeing this happen more in the EDM scene. “DJs” need to start wearing masks or taking off clothes in order to set themselves apart from other acts. Where the goal is to stand out more then it is to make people dance. Where people stand there and watch your ‘performance‘. I see this happening at a lot of festivals and shows. The dance scene has basically become a rock concert.

Clown /klown/

Noun: A comic entertainer, esp. one in a circus, wearing a traditional costume and exaggerated makeup.
Verb: Behave in a comical way; act playfully: “Harvey clowned around pretending to be a dog”
Basically these acts who call themselves DJs get in front of everyone, wearing dumb makeup or a mask and act in a comical way, I laugh. Like for example when a DJ runs around on stage and then throws a big cake at someone, or when a DJ wears a mask and acts like a moron. In the following video we see Steve Aoki ‘clowning‘ around. You will notice all the people “Dancing” at this EDM event.

But Aoki insists his act is really all about the music. “The most important thing, besides all the stunts that I do, it’s always the music,” he said. “The music is the number one thing.”

So get back behind the decks and play some damn music then.

I bring this up because during the 90s, the DJ was more of a GOD. You never saw him, yet everywhere you went he touched you with his music, the better the DJ the more you dance. Places like the original Sound Factory and the newer one were open for 12 hours straight with 1 DJ controlling the vibe of the main floor. Never once could you walk up to him or even see where his lit up booth was. All clubs were setup in this way, the focus was on the people. The music was about the people, the dance floor about the people, the light show about the people. Some places did have a stage for performances. Normally the performances were drag queens (guys in make up and masks) on stage, and then the focus was on them for a short time while the DJ controls the action.

I was lucky enough to play at the Palladium in NYC. The place was simply amazing, and the DJ booth was not the focus. The DJ was the god for the evening and places like this were my church. When watching the video you will notice that the DJ booth was very lit up. The DJ was not seen but heard. He didn’t wear anything fancy and he wasn’t trying to be the visual center of attention, nor could he if he tried. Since the booth was hidden or ‘away from drunk requests’ is what I always called it.

DJs stood out because of their specific styles of music. How they played the music is what made them who they were, no gimmicks, now crowd tricks, no masks… no clowning around. Derrick Carter has always been Derrick Carter. DJ Sneak is DJ Sneak… no mask. No funny gimmicks. It won’t make their music any better only distract me from dancing. Before the internet when all I had were mix tapes, I could hear a DJ and know who it was, yet have no idea if the DJ was male or female, or if they were even human. nor did I care, all that mattered was the music.

Ask yourself... are the people watching you 'perform' as a DJ instead of dancing?

We are not rockstars. We don’t learn silly dance moves. We do not wear silly masks or makeup. We are not a live performance. We feed off the crowds. We make them move. Set yourself apart by playing good music. If your a DJ doing all kinds of stupid gimmicks or wearing silly masks and you find that people are watching you instead of dancing, especially when your playing at an EDM (Electronic DANCE Music) event… Then you may be doing it wrong.

I’m not the only one who believes somewhat like this, DJ Sneak called out the Swedish House Mafia for being a bunch of actors. Dennis Ferrer agreed with him. I also agreed with him. Leave a comment below if you have something to say, keep it clean, don’t be childish. Please like and share this if you agree with what I said… thanks!

P.S. I’m not hating on anyone, it’s an opinion. If it quacks like a duck and if it looks like a duck…

Follow me on Facebook for cooky thoughts unlike these.

And for the record, one final time… I am not mad, some people got mad at me.. like I said.. I’m calling it like I see it… they are funny. clown like even. Just dont get mad if you act and look like a clown when my friends and I are laughing at your show instead of dancing to it. You make your bed, you sleep in it.
Margie Pavell
14.05.2012
Originally Posted by guiltyblade
actually yesterday sneak went on the offensive with An21 and a few other swedes.

http://twitter.com/#!/AN21/status/201813214445572096
nice DJ Sneak...someone should tell Angello that he isn't tchaikovsky...
Loyce Mekonen
14.05.2012
I'm currently at crossroads regarding the opinion this article expresses. On one hand, if the crowd is having a good time, then who cares? I know I've had fun listening to Dj's jumping around to their music/show not caring a single bit about not being dancing. But on the other hand, it's true that now it seems like a big rock concert instead of dancing.

I'm gonna speak out of complete ignorance here since my trip withing EDM barely begun a few years ago. But I've always understood that House music was about "feeling the music" and "letting yourself be driven away by it", catching a certain groove and beat and what not (I could probably go and say the same thing about trance and psytrance from where I actually started liking EDM, albeit knowing practically naught about the genres). I do believe that dancing should be what's elicited by the music, understanding that jumping around like an idiot can also be one of its consequences. But it's true, mainstream electro dj's/producers are now focused mainly on making people jump like it was the end of the world. And songs barely have "the groove" anymore. I personally LIKE it, but at the same time, I don't. I mean, I love letting myself go and jump and feel the energy, but I also love being carried away and enjoy the good ride some DJ's provide. I've had TONS of fun listening to Laidback Luke, Afrojack, Chuckie, Fedde le Grand, etc, but I believe I've enjoyed much more those Dj's who made me embrace the music and just go with it. Guys like John Digweed come to mind. And I actually DANCED to his set instead of jumping.

So as a Dj I've been wondering. What do I really want? I do like the idea of having people jumping like hysterical monkeys to my drop, but at the same time, I don't like the idea of people expecting what MYSELF have to offer, instead of listening and embracing what the MUSIC has to offer by itself. Of course there is always an "in between" and that's what good DJ's can do. But I dunno... as I said, I'm at crossroads with the subject.
Lela Umanskaya
14.05.2012
Originally Posted by sobi
I'm not a betting man, but I'd wager that the intense parts of the show that you guys were impressed with had nothing to do with Aoki and his DJing, and almost everything to do with stage design/lighting/computer programming/show promotion/side show antics coordinated by someone else.
Is that such a bad thing? I don't understand the hate, as long as people are leaving happy. Good for him.
Romelia Stankard
14.05.2012
Originally Posted by guiltyblade
actually yesterday sneak went on the offensive with An21 and a few other swedes.

http://twitter.com/#!/AN21/status/201813214445572096

Haha this shit is pretty funny.
Alla Bluemke
14.05.2012
actually yesterday sneak went on the offensive with An21 and a few other swedes.

http://twitter.com/#!/AN21/status/201813214445572096
Darren Teboe
14.05.2012
Originally Posted by IznremiX
this. i saw aoki live about 6 months ago, and yea the dj side of me was pretty disappointed. but he still put on a great show and I had a lot of fun
Originally Posted by Crowd3ontrol
I couldn't agree with you more he should be focusing most the attention on djing but he does throw one sick show I've seen him live at edc vegas last year and it was intense.

I'm not a betting man, but I'd wager that the intense parts of the show that you guys were impressed with had nothing to do with Aoki and his DJing, and almost everything to do with stage design/lighting/computer programming/show promotion/side show antics coordinated by someone else.
Marguerite Truka
14.05.2012
Dance music has become more of a commercial entity in its whole. Anybody here old enough to remember when people went to ibiza for some amazing music. Thats what made it such a sucsessful resort raising it above the likes of magaluf.

Now ibiza is just commerical music like the rest. Hip hop has stayed more true but I believe that because the pioneers are still in the game to some extent.

Going off topic we are in an eara of unpresiendented choice wen it comes to things such as music put most ppl are too lazy and really couldnt care about musical identity and only listen to whats put infront of them

Its like politics most people dont know what there voting for or really care which is why we are in a situation where goverments have no real power its the companies that control them. If people actually cared we could change somthing.

commercialisation is alot more far reaching than music

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Margie Pavell
14.05.2012
how the hell did i miss it?...cripes...this whole work thing gets in the way...
Nedra Fresneda
14.05.2012
No need, I believe we already had a thread on the subject and DJ Sneak's tweet is already mentioned in sobi's link
Margie Pavell
14.05.2012
wait...is he the vato on the super cuts commercial?
Margie Pavell
14.05.2012
thank you DJ Sneak...if you need need someone to get your back...i got ya...meet you in LA...

http://www.mixmag.net/words/news/dj-...afia-dj-actors

(maybe should have started a different thread)
Margie Pavell
14.05.2012
i havent heard many favorable things about steve aoki...i have no idea who he is or what kind of music he plays...
Valeri Holderness
14.05.2012
Originally Posted by Crowd3ontrol
I couldn't agree with you more he should be focusing most the attention on djing but he does throw one sick show I've seen him live at edc vegas last year and it was intense.
this. i saw aoki live about 6 months ago, and yea the dj side of me was pretty disappointed. but he still put on a great show and I had a lot of fun
Tonisha Rayman
14.05.2012
Originally Posted by sobi
Yes, he does make his own music and no, he doesn't just play random songs and jump around to it. What he does do is play his own music, and in the case of the video that is in the article, he pays less than 100% of his attention to doing something new DJ wise for the audience in favor of spraying champagne, and hitting people with cakes. While I don't support the article 100%, I will say the connection to clowns is spot on. Especially when referencing that particular "performance" by Aoki.
I couldn't agree with you more he should be focusing most the attention on djing but he does throw one sick show I've seen him live at edc vegas last year and it was intense.
Darren Teboe
14.05.2012
Originally Posted by tekki
Jason & sobi, hope you get the bigger picture here.
I totally get it. While I understand it though, I find it a bit idealistic and unrealistic. That being said, no matter how silly and unrealistic it is in my eyes, it's not my community and I respect it.
Darren Teboe
14.05.2012
Originally Posted by Crowd3ontrol
I believe aoki is a good producer so what if he does crazy stunts during he's shows. He actually makes music and doesn't just play random songs and jump around to it.
Yes, he does make his own music and no, he doesn't just play random songs and jump around to it. What he does do is play his own music, and in the case of the video that is in the article, he pays less than 100% of his attention to doing something new DJ wise for the audience in favor of spraying champagne, and hitting people with cakes. While I don't support the article 100%, I will say the connection to clowns is spot on. Especially when referencing that particular "performance" by Aoki.



Gerard Cowin
14.05.2012
I can't stand the electrotastic crap that Aoki and the like produce, all pandering towards the dollar.
Tonisha Rayman
14.05.2012
I believe aoki is a good producer so what if he does crazy stunts during he's shows. He actually makes music and doesn't just play random songs and jump around to it. On the other hand I have little respect for dj bl3nd but recently I've been hearing he has actually been djing instead of playing pre recorded sets.
Georgina Schatzman
14.05.2012
I thought it did make a point though, as the original post wasn't offending anyone and he was clearly having a poke at the Moderators.
Johnetta Olewine
14.05.2012
Originally Posted by ellgieff
The "well played". What the guy you were responding said was irrelevant. I figured that you mistyped "irrelevant" when you typed "well played", so I fixed it for you.
what on earth are you talking about brew?
Rosenda Gossage
14.05.2012
Originally Posted by JasonBay
What post of mine did you quote?
The "well played". What the guy you were responding said was irrelevant. I figured that you mistyped "irrelevant" when you typed "well played", so I fixed it for you.
Georgina Schatzman
14.05.2012
Originally Posted by ellgieff
Fixed that for you.
What post of mine did you quote?
Rosenda Gossage
14.05.2012
Originally Posted by JasonBay
Irrelevant
Fixed that for you.
Lela Umanskaya
14.05.2012
Aoki is currently pounding his fist on his desk in a fit of rage...

Jokes aside, I kind of see where the mods are coming from, I mean swearing is great, but only if it enhances the message.
Georgina Schatzman
14.05.2012
Originally Posted by oliosky
who did it offend? Aoki?


Don't flatter yourselves guys, I don't believe he reads the community
Well played
Johnetta Olewine
14.05.2012
who did it offend? Aoki?


Don't flatter yourselves guys, I don't believe he reads the community
Random X
14.05.2012
We don't want to offend anybody, period.

Having a post, that clearly offends/degrades a DJ, is not welcome here.

If it was constructive criticism, I would have let it pass by, but this was just name calling/swearing in a bad way. If I come across similar occurrences, I will correct posts again.
Georgina Schatzman
14.05.2012
Originally Posted by tekki
Jason & sobi, hope you get the bigger picture here.
Not exactly. I understand if it's directed towards other members because they might not feel comfortable participating on the boards then, but this isn't directed towards anyone.
Random X
14.05.2012
Jason & sobi, hope you get the bigger picture here.
Darren Teboe
14.05.2012
Originally Posted by JasonBay
Que?
Management believes language will hurt readership/offend people, and is oblivious that most everyone on here has watched 2 girls 1 cup (or similar) several times on their own accord.
Georgina Schatzman
14.05.2012
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Romelia Stankard
14.05.2012
The kids in high school who surf DJTT have never heard profanities before, we need to be conscientious of them since this an all ages community , or something.
Georgina Schatzman
14.05.2012
And? What's wrong with that? They aren't directed towards anyone on here
Margie Pavell
14.05.2012
i believe there were alot of questionable words in the original post...
Georgina Schatzman
14.05.2012
Originally Posted by tekki
Did some touching up. Please watch the language.
Que?
Random X
14.05.2012
Did some touching up. Please watch the language.

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