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Clown DJ's
Posted on: 14.05.2012 by Darren Teboe
I was planning on posting this here and over on DJF, but someone already beat me to it there. I'm anticipating this to stir up some passionate feelings in certain people in both directions...

http://robcifre.com/2012/05/11/the-c...m-music-scene/

I remember in the 90s when hip hop was damn good. When it was about the good life, being fun and energetic like, De La Soul or Tribe Called Quest, or when it was about real life in the streets like NaS, Smif-N-Wessun, Pete Rock… and in like all music you had the clowns, people like Vanilla Ice, MC Hammer etc… But in the golden age of hip hop you would notice that you can name more of the ‘real’ artists then you could clowns.

Fast forward to today, the ‘real’ artists talking about real things don’t have much of a voice anymore. On the radio, on TV you hear and see these amazing performances. Songs written by other people. A dance choreographer to make sure all the moves are correct. A visual stylist to make sure the right image is being portrayed. I don’t watch much TV or listen to the radio at all, but i can name more clowns in todays music scene then I can the real players.

MC Hammer in his clown suit. Hip Hop at its finest?

What has happened in the music industry? Business happened. The goal is to make money. Most people start off real and then become this bubble gum pop artist to start to appeal to a bigger demographic. Ever wonder why everyone always says ‘yeah I like so and so but his/her stuff isn’t as good as when they first came out’. There is a reason for that. Money and the labels that basically own the artists now control the artist, the music and the image.

DJ Bl3nd... This guy's mask was stolen and he stopped the music until he got it back.

I’m now seeing this happen more in the EDM scene. “DJs” need to start wearing masks or taking off clothes in order to set themselves apart from other acts. Where the goal is to stand out more then it is to make people dance. Where people stand there and watch your ‘performance‘. I see this happening at a lot of festivals and shows. The dance scene has basically become a rock concert.

Clown /klown/

Noun: A comic entertainer, esp. one in a circus, wearing a traditional costume and exaggerated makeup.
Verb: Behave in a comical way; act playfully: “Harvey clowned around pretending to be a dog”
Basically these acts who call themselves DJs get in front of everyone, wearing dumb makeup or a mask and act in a comical way, I laugh. Like for example when a DJ runs around on stage and then throws a big cake at someone, or when a DJ wears a mask and acts like a moron. In the following video we see Steve Aoki ‘clowning‘ around. You will notice all the people “Dancing” at this EDM event.

But Aoki insists his act is really all about the music. “The most important thing, besides all the stunts that I do, it’s always the music,” he said. “The music is the number one thing.”

So get back behind the decks and play some damn music then.

I bring this up because during the 90s, the DJ was more of a GOD. You never saw him, yet everywhere you went he touched you with his music, the better the DJ the more you dance. Places like the original Sound Factory and the newer one were open for 12 hours straight with 1 DJ controlling the vibe of the main floor. Never once could you walk up to him or even see where his lit up booth was. All clubs were setup in this way, the focus was on the people. The music was about the people, the dance floor about the people, the light show about the people. Some places did have a stage for performances. Normally the performances were drag queens (guys in make up and masks) on stage, and then the focus was on them for a short time while the DJ controls the action.

I was lucky enough to play at the Palladium in NYC. The place was simply amazing, and the DJ booth was not the focus. The DJ was the god for the evening and places like this were my church. When watching the video you will notice that the DJ booth was very lit up. The DJ was not seen but heard. He didn’t wear anything fancy and he wasn’t trying to be the visual center of attention, nor could he if he tried. Since the booth was hidden or ‘away from drunk requests’ is what I always called it.

DJs stood out because of their specific styles of music. How they played the music is what made them who they were, no gimmicks, now crowd tricks, no masks… no clowning around. Derrick Carter has always been Derrick Carter. DJ Sneak is DJ Sneak… no mask. No funny gimmicks. It won’t make their music any better only distract me from dancing. Before the internet when all I had were mix tapes, I could hear a DJ and know who it was, yet have no idea if the DJ was male or female, or if they were even human. nor did I care, all that mattered was the music.

Ask yourself... are the people watching you 'perform' as a DJ instead of dancing?

We are not rockstars. We don’t learn silly dance moves. We do not wear silly masks or makeup. We are not a live performance. We feed off the crowds. We make them move. Set yourself apart by playing good music. If your a DJ doing all kinds of stupid gimmicks or wearing silly masks and you find that people are watching you instead of dancing, especially when your playing at an EDM (Electronic DANCE Music) event… Then you may be doing it wrong.

I’m not the only one who believes somewhat like this, DJ Sneak called out the Swedish House Mafia for being a bunch of actors. Dennis Ferrer agreed with him. I also agreed with him. Leave a comment below if you have something to say, keep it clean, don’t be childish. Please like and share this if you agree with what I said… thanks!

P.S. I’m not hating on anyone, it’s an opinion. If it quacks like a duck and if it looks like a duck…

Follow me on Facebook for cooky thoughts unlike these.

And for the record, one final time… I am not mad, some people got mad at me.. like I said.. I’m calling it like I see it… they are funny. clown like even. Just dont get mad if you act and look like a clown when my friends and I are laughing at your show instead of dancing to it. You make your bed, you sleep in it.
Nedra Fresneda
22.05.2012
Originally Posted by ExTrCt.
You should be allowed to say what ever comes to mind....
Nope, you must follow the rules of conduct of the community s, like everybody else does. It has nothing to do with communism or any political standing, it's simply coexistence.
Random X
20.05.2012
Originally Posted by ExTrCt.
Yes, this is america.
If this was America, I'd be allowed to grab my gun and shoot you off my property.

This discussion is literally stretching the intention of the opening post, still not knowing why it has been going on/surviving this long. So I am closing it down now.
Jaleesa Zheng
19.05.2012
Originally Posted by photojojo
So you should be allowed to come into my house and insult me?
Yes, this is america.
Tesha Freudenstein
19.05.2012
Originally Posted by Xonetacular
There gets to be a point where things get so twisted around and mutated that it holds no resemblance to the original and shouldn't be called the same thing or even a subset.
you can have this debate with almost every genre that is out there be it house, trance, hardstyle, hardcore, dubstep so on so forth.

i believe chuckie's quote applies here:

i was trying to find "real house" on wikipedia hahaha! @djrogersanchez
https://twitter.com/#!/djchuckie/sta...91589327933440

as for pop artist using house elements: it's what pop music has always done. find the next big thing. jump on the bangwagon and ride it until they find something new. same happened to hip hop and RnB a few years back.
Gina Promes
18.05.2012
Originally Posted by Xonetacular
There gets to be a point where things get so twisted around and mutated that it holds no resemblance to the original and shouldn't be called the same thing or even a subset. Where do you draw the line? Is Rihanna house music? Lady Gaga? Black Eyed Peas? LMFAO? SHM has gotten closer to those than it is to house music.



Does that sound like house music or pop music?

Damn, I should definitely buy a dog.
Lela Umanskaya
18.05.2012
Originally Posted by ellgieff
Godwin. Thread must be dead, now?
Horse has been kicked but good.
Nedra Fresneda
22.05.2012
Originally Posted by ExTrCt.
You should be allowed to say what ever comes to mind....
Nope, you must follow the rules of conduct of the community s, like everybody else does. It has nothing to do with communism or any political standing, it's simply coexistence.
Random X
20.05.2012
Originally Posted by ExTrCt.
Yes, this is america.
If this was America, I'd be allowed to grab my gun and shoot you off my property.

This discussion is literally stretching the intention of the opening post, still not knowing why it has been going on/surviving this long. So I am closing it down now.
Neva Sparacino
20.05.2012
Well the scene has cahnged for sure I dont like to call myself a DJ anymore in my point of view to be different you need to star making your own music learn a DAW and do your loops do your samples finish a song and play yours songs with other peoples songs use effects trigger samples go crazy with your controller thats why I start producing like 2 years ago and if the people like it they going to dance even if they cant see you but still right know its all about the DJ we need to start performing and stop changin one song to another song we need start performing so people take us seriously
Birgit Gondal
19.05.2012
Norn Iron.
Jaleesa Zheng
19.05.2012
Emmmurricaaaa
Lela Umanskaya
19.05.2012
He meant Amuricah...
Yong Aptekar
19.05.2012
This isn't America.....you might be in America, but this is DJTT. Its part of the internet, which is most definitely not america.
Jaleesa Zheng
19.05.2012
Originally Posted by photojojo
So you should be allowed to come into my house and insult me?
Yes, this is america.
Tesha Freudenstein
19.05.2012
Originally Posted by Xonetacular
There gets to be a point where things get so twisted around and mutated that it holds no resemblance to the original and shouldn't be called the same thing or even a subset.
you can have this debate with almost every genre that is out there be it house, trance, hardstyle, hardcore, dubstep so on so forth.

i believe chuckie's quote applies here:

i was trying to find "real house" on wikipedia hahaha! @djrogersanchez
https://twitter.com/#!/djchuckie/sta...91589327933440

as for pop artist using house elements: it's what pop music has always done. find the next big thing. jump on the bangwagon and ride it until they find something new. same happened to hip hop and RnB a few years back.
Gina Promes
18.05.2012
Originally Posted by Xonetacular
There gets to be a point where things get so twisted around and mutated that it holds no resemblance to the original and shouldn't be called the same thing or even a subset. Where do you draw the line? Is Rihanna house music? Lady Gaga? Black Eyed Peas? LMFAO? SHM has gotten closer to those than it is to house music.



Does that sound like house music or pop music?

Damn, I should definitely buy a dog.
Lela Umanskaya
18.05.2012
Originally Posted by ellgieff
Godwin. Thread must be dead, now?
Horse has been kicked but good.
Rosenda Gossage
18.05.2012
Originally Posted by rotebass
That's a pretty tip top comparison...
Godwin. Thread must be dead, now?
Lela Umanskaya
18.05.2012
Originally Posted by JasonBay
Besides, when was the last time the majority got it right? Does anyone remember Germany circa 1939? How did that go down?
That's a pretty tip top comparison...
Georgina Schatzman
18.05.2012
Originally Posted by rotebass
I disagree, and the sold out arenas worth of people are probably on my side
But now you are changing the perception and what's expected of a "House" DJ to something that isn't even House music anymore and then you start lose it's history and heritage.

Besides, when was the last time the majority got it right? Does anyone remember Germany circa 1939? How did that go down?
Lela Umanskaya
18.05.2012
Originally Posted by JasonBay
Yes, it does
I disagree, and the sold out arenas worth of people are probably on my side

Edit: Before I got into DJing I played bass guitar. A few summers ago when I was in a unsigned touring band, we were travelling out of town to play a smallish festival. The promoter had emailed me a few weeks back asking me to label the band genre-wise, not believeing about it I just said "metal".

Fast forward to show day, we play our 40 minute set, break down our gear and go relax near the back of the venue. Next thing we know, we're being accosted be a couple young kids who proceed to give us a lecture about how our band is not "metal" but "progressive metal".

This attitude pisses me off, when ever I meet someone or speak with someone like this, the first thing that pops in my head is "what a pretentious cunt". Who cares, it's music people. If you don't like SHM, don't buy their tracks, don't spin their tracks and don't go to their shows. All this "real house music" bullshit is making some people sound like a bunch of crybabies.
Margie Pavell
18.05.2012
Originally Posted by Sample Seven
If hitting the crowd with cakes and popping champagne meant I could be an international headliner, I would buy out the bakery and the liquor store.
and therein lies the problem...
Georgina Schatzman
18.05.2012
Originally Posted by rotebass
The real question is: Does it really matter?
Yes, it does
Julius Schoenhofer
18.05.2012
If hitting the crowd with cakes and popping champagne meant I could be an international headliner, I would buy out the bakery and the liquor store.
Lela Umanskaya
18.05.2012
Originally Posted by Xonetacular
Blah Blah Lady Gaga Blah

video

More Blah
The real question is: Does it really matter?
Romelia Stankard
18.05.2012
Originally Posted by Era 7
then somebody needs to get over the perception that there is only one style of house.
There gets to be a point where things get so twisted around and mutated that it holds no resemblance to the original and shouldn't be called the same thing or even a subset. Where do you draw the line? Is Rihanna house music? Lady Gaga? Black Eyed Peas? LMFAO? SHM has gotten closer to those than it is to house music.



Does that sound like house music or pop music?
Antonetta Wikel
18.05.2012
There's more than one style of House? I guess I prefer Craftsman over Tudor then.
Tesha Freudenstein
18.05.2012
Originally Posted by JasonBay
That's not what he's really getting at though. The thing he's upset about is that they are parading around as "House DJs" when that couldn't be the furthest thing from the truth. Because when they call what they do "house music" then that's the sound that people are going to associate with it.

So now when he tells people he's a House DJ, people are going to say "Oh! Like Steven Angello and the SHM guys?". And that's when you see him go,

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then somebody needs to get over the perception that there is only one style of house.
Margie Pavell
18.05.2012
Originally Posted by Buckner
I saw ronald mickeyDJ, and that ish was bangin. the hamburgler spillled ketchup on the patties, I mean platters, and he just kept on cookin
wha?
Herma Buschelman
18.05.2012
I saw ronald mickeyDJ, and that ish was bangin. the hamburgler spillled ketchup on the patties, I mean platters, and he just kept on cookin
Nilsa Erben
18.05.2012
Originally Posted by photojojo
So you should be allowed to come into my house and insult me?
Only if I bring a decent bottle of wine!

Seriously though, what give people - and it seems to be mostly Americans who believe this - the idea that freedom of speech means you can say anything anywhere? You can stand up and yell FIRE in a theatre and you will get into trouble as you should!
Leeanna Ayla
18.05.2012
Originally Posted by ExTrCt.
You should be allowed to say what ever comes to mind....
So you should be allowed to come into my house and insult me?
Lilliana Perris
18.05.2012
Originally Posted by PeteWoods
I just envisioned god save the queen playing at the jubilee, followed by a spinback and prince harry shouting 'YESSSAAAA, REWIND SELECTA, SO NICE I GOTTA PLAY IT TWICE'

BWAHAHAHAHA!

Excellent!

Lilliana Perris
18.05.2012
Originally Posted by LanceBlaise
He has been DJing since he was like 15, and has been an international electronic dj since the late 80s, I believe its pretty safe to say he isn't going anywhere or fading away... He doesn't need to come up with anything new.
Agreed!

It was just an example.
Yong Aptekar
18.05.2012
This thread is the perfect example of why I love this community . There's got to be 3 or 4 different conversations going on, and I'm completely lost as to what this is about. Are we talking about the Insane Clown Posse on CDJs? Or whether or not the circus has a sink?
Birgit Gondal
17.05.2012
Originally Posted by Otacon
this kinda cracks me up as well


Prince Harry to become reggae DJ
http://www.nme.com/news/bob-marley/63652
I just envisioned god save the queen playing at the jubilee, followed by a spinback and prince harry shouting 'YESSSAAAA, REWIND SELECTA, SO NICE I GOTTA PLAY IT TWICE'
Birgit Gondal
17.05.2012
Originally Posted by ExTrCt.
Paris hiltons got a nice ass? Yes indeed.
untrue, too flat!
Jaleesa Zheng
17.05.2012
Originally Posted by Xonetacular
While I believe it is a silly policy, freedom of speech doesn't mean you can say whatever you want on a private site- just saying.
You should be allowed to say what ever comes to mind....

Paris hiltons got a nice ass? Yes indeed.
Johnetta Olewine
17.05.2012
Originally Posted by rdale
I always thought Carl's gimmick was smashing the dance floor with four turntables. I've been envious of this trick for years.
That gap between his front teeth can't be real.
Freida Leash
17.05.2012
I always thought Carl's gimmick was smashing the dance floor with four turntables. I've been envious of this trick for years.

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