Clearing up the deadmau5 DJ thing
Clearing up the deadmau5 DJ thing Posted on: 23.06.2012 by Linda Chavda http://deadmau5.tumblr.com/post/2569...e-all-hit-playThere was a discussion on this in the him on pauly d thread a week or two back and people were complaining, this clears it up for me and I can't help but agree. | |
| Christel Croak 25.06.2012 |
Originally Posted by mostapha
How can you tell something that something that speaks to them is wrong? It's like saying "the style of art you like is wrong." What appeals to you may not appeal to someone else, and vice versa. Music is an art, whether "good" or "bad", and it's completely subjective depending on listener, you can't quantify it. Try to be open to other's opinions. |
| Tennie Pagni 25.06.2012 | To me, I believe he's laying some things out for the folks who love EDM at the club, but have no clue what a DJ does. Before I got into DJing, I really had no clue (all I knew is that I liked it). I believe once people find out that their favorite moment of the evening is prerecorded (you know the one-when the kick drops back in after an epic breakdown), to find out that this DJ guy they just fell in love with had very little to do with it, they get a little bummed out. It seems like he's trying to pre-empt this. Saying "yeah, we essentially press play at just the right moment" but then adding a "so what? I also produce awesome stuff." It comes across condescending to the DJ, but perhaps more honest to the audience. Personally, I don't really care. I would actually rather have folks know what is going on in the booth and be in on it, rather than under some false notion. That way they can figure out the good shit from the crap and be really impressed by the folks with skills. |
| Efrain Scharr 25.06.2012 |
Originally Posted by cyberphox
this^^^ |
| Nilsa Erben 25.06.2012 | This thread wins, I (almost) got a new profile pic and here's a new sig quote! Now to go figure out where tin-ear come from tinnitus...could be related. |
| Bobby Kubenka 25.06.2012 |
Originally Posted by elliot1106
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| Salvatore Husley 25.06.2012 |
Originally Posted by Sn0wday
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| Madelene Witek 25.06.2012 |
Originally Posted by 3heads
You----->. |
| Celestine Porebski 25.06.2012 |
Originally Posted by Sn0wday
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| Madelene Witek 25.06.2012 | Eh, this whole "why don't you just listen to his music on a playlist" or "he might as well have an ipod" A show, is not about that IMO, you could sit in your room and listen to the playlist. or... Be in the middle of a crowd of 10k+ who all love the music as much as you do, volume cranked to insane levels on an insane system, with an equally as insane visual light show. Whether you're all in the same zone to an emotional piece, or getting buck-wild in constant laughter. Seriously, I don't care what they're doing, it doesn't matter. If you're going to go to a show and then pout about how the performer isn'y doing very much, then don't go. Simple as that, sit at home and listen to it, i'm sure it'll be much more enjoyable... |
| Shery Bergson 25.06.2012 | That article just sounds like one of his twitter rants. He said he himself he deserves to dish out some of the hate that he has gotten, but why be part of the hate though? How is that going to fix anything? He is just perpetuating a cycle of hate that dance music does not need. He just seems like a very angsty person that has a history of personal issues that get shown through rants on the internet. I feel sorry for the guy, like Bro Safari said, he needs a hug. |
| Darlene Strohbeck 24.06.2012 |
Originally Posted by Janky
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| Lela Umanskaya 24.06.2012 |
Originally Posted by ellgieff
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| Dorie Scelzo 24.06.2012 |
Originally Posted by sobi
Originally Posted by streetStreet
Originally Posted by Janky
His existence proves him right. The scene doesn't seem to care about art or expression or creativity or anything except big names they don't have to believe about. Forgive me for wishing that a god damned dj community doesn't have to be a part of it. |
| Rosenda Gossage 24.06.2012 |
Originally Posted by sobi
The Punk Rock scene wasn't particularly angst filled when I was part of it. |
| Emerson Crist 24.06.2012 | Its easy to boil down anything to its core. For instance, whats so special about Peter Frampton? All he does is play six strings in a certain way to the drummer and bass guitarist. Whats so special about Rage Against the Machine? Its just four guys on stage playing political themed music. Whats the big deal about Neil Young? Just some guy on an acoustic guitar. The point is, all these artists are regular people who do what they do because it "speaks" to them. Its a form of expression, only I feel its much more personal. It can be achieved through a guitar, a drum, a spoon, wine glasses filled with water....... heck it can even be someone who plays other peoples music. Djs are given a hard time because we arent actively doing anything to create those tones, which the former artists do, but the concept is the same. We play songs that speak to us, songs that express our passion for music. Unless youre just a mindless human being who plays off a pre determined playlist because you know it will work. /Paris Hilton |
| Darren Teboe 24.06.2012 |
Originally Posted by ellgieff
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| Celestine Porebski 24.06.2012 |
Originally Posted by ellgieff
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| Werner Bile 24.06.2012 |
Originally Posted by ellgieff
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| Rosenda Gossage 24.06.2012 |
Originally Posted by MWagner
*edit* On the topic of "seeing a show", I'll always come down on the side of despising the people that do it. Too many years as a punk, where there was generally no difference between the punters and the performers - and where the "headliners" were likely to be in the pit slamming to the warm up acts rather than out in a green room somewhere being rockstars. *shrugs* I guess that makes me an elitist douche. |
| Werner Bile 24.06.2012 |
Originally Posted by ellgieff
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| Celestine Porebski 24.06.2012 |
Originally Posted by tokenasianguy
(I thought , while we're on the topic of douchy elitist posts I might contribute one as well ) |
| Rosenda Gossage 24.06.2012 |
Originally Posted by rotebass
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| Celestine Porebski 24.06.2012 |
Originally Posted by tokenasianguy
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| Lela Umanskaya 24.06.2012 |
Originally Posted by ellgieff
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| Reginia Tramble 24.06.2012 | He says what he's doing in his tumblr post at his live shows and isnt scared to say its nothing too special, the fans change the game because they want to heard Deadmau5. His music productions are solid, there is no denying that fact unless you're delusion or been living under a 1200 somewhere for too long. |
| Rosenda Gossage 24.06.2012 |
Originally Posted by tokenasianguy
I've seen bands, sure. But when I went to the band's show, I went to hear them. I couldn't give the slightest damn what the musicians look like, and am not at all interested in a pyrotechnic display - if I wanted a "pyrotechnic" display, I'd take something at the psychedelic end of the stimulant rainbow. I can't tell you why the tin-eared drones go to see their favourite band. I don't know anything about why tin-eared drones even bother to keep breathing. I can tell you that I don't have tin-ears, and that I go to a live band show precisely because it sounds different to the recorded version. |
| Werner Bile 24.06.2012 | When Deadmau5 talks about DJs as "button pushers" he's clearly neglecting the next step in the evolution of superstar DJs: PARIS.jpg Get someone else to push the buttons for you... |
| Darlene Strohbeck 24.06.2012 |
Originally Posted by ellgieff
Why else would so many people go to concerts to see their favorite band "perform" even though the music and vocals almost never sound as polished as the studio recorded albums? |
| Darlene Strohbeck 24.06.2012 |
Originally Posted by MiL0
Forums give people a voice, and you start to notice there there's a lot of self-righteous elitism out there. |
| Darlene Strohbeck 24.06.2012 |
Originally Posted by Patch
Full time Actors are perfect examples. Much like full time DJ's, they might initially say they do it for their "passion" but making a lot of money for minimal work is a HUGE (albeit unspoken) factor. After all, nobody wants to be a starving artist and none of us are aiming to be a mediocre success. |
| Brunilda Kora 24.06.2012 |
...like just about anybody that works in some sort of "creative" field.
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| Darlene Strohbeck 24.06.2012 |
Originally Posted by Shane Says
Let's all be honest with ourselves, it doesn't take a lot of talent. Sure it takes SOME talent, but it's not brain surgery. I would even go as far as to say it's the easiest job I've ever had. It seems like any DJ that talks about how much work it is and how much talent it requires is just trying to justify that it's a legitimate job, like just about anybody that works in some sort of "creative" field. |
| Darren Teboe 24.06.2012 | This thread sort of proves him right at some level. I see a lot of bashing going on about him, his show, and this article, and the only thing I see more of is an inability to distinguish the difference levels of recognition, and how your job changes at the end of the day when moving through them. If you are at the lower echelons of DJing, then yes... there is a lot more skill required of you. You really DO need to know how to work a crowd, make your set interesting, and all the (and I say this with a grain of salt) skills that a DJ needs. If you are at his level, then your job changes. Regardless of how similar it is to things that have been done, how simple it is, or anything else... he is making a good living and most likely enjoying it. I don't like the whole gimmick, or the fact that he somewhat seems to change sounds with the current popular flavors, but whatever. I don't have any problems with him either for the most part. Hell, I actually enjoy him being so real and just calling it as he sees it. He's a bit of a dick, and I love it. Also, he's done stuff in the past that doesn't really sync up with him NOT being a down to earth real head. Backing out of ultra to do those private clinics or whatever that was this year was a great example. |
| Trinh Sochia 25.06.2012 |
Originally Posted by Xonetacular
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| Margie Pavell 24.06.2012 | i still have no idea why so many people burn so many calories on Deadmau5... either like him or don't...as a producer you are only as good as your last record. If you measure him like you do other artists then you will have YOUR OWN ANSWER soon enough. I liked his earlier productions, even own some. Once his tracks started to shift toward what he is doing now I don't pay him much mind. Simple. |
| Romelia Stankard 24.06.2012 |
Originally Posted by elliot1106
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| Linda Chavda 24.06.2012 | A little bit more to that at... http://trainspottr.com/the-mau5-who-...-love-djs/1536 |
| May Artman 24.06.2012 |
Originally Posted by Xonetacular
I could only have imagined people wouldn’t read into it so much (let alone the interview wouldn’t pick out all the stupid bits) and miss the point completely. I’m not a total fucking idiot, and I recognize talent when I see it.... and there are many talented DJs out there for sure. In my eyes, those would be the individuals who utilize technology to deliver the music in ways that are both skillful and innovate, more so than my vision of the "play/stop/pitch" DJ. To me, the club is about "the party"... the people make the evening
... the DJ obviously needs to use that to his advantage, it's give and take.
Okay, to say "all DJs are...." etc. etc., to be taken literally as this article did, was just painfully stupid and wrong on their behalf. So I’m not the world’s most eloquent person... any idiot can tell you that. But the meaning behind the statement was ‘the concept that I recognize as being a "disc jockey"... See it as a failed attempt at correcting a wrong, or backtracking, or just being plain hypocritical, I really don’t give a fuck either way... This statement isn't for you fucking elitist fuckheads who have nothing better to do with your internets. This is for the the people who appreciate what I’m doing, people who enjoy music, and is meant to assure those people that my intent was not to insult or belittle anyone or any group of people in particular. Edit: also, my post saying he was only referring to X was in the context of OP's link |
| Linda Chavda 24.06.2012 | 90% of DJs are probably talentless record players. |
| Tesha Freudenstein 24.06.2012 | and if he gets a rise out of you then he wins. the guy is the biggest internet troll ever. get over it. |
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