Clearing up the deadmau5 DJ thing

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Clearing up the deadmau5 DJ thing
Posted on: 23.06.2012 by Linda Chavda
http://deadmau5.tumblr.com/post/2569...e-all-hit-play

There was a discussion on this in the him on pauly d thread a week or two back and people were complaining, this clears it up for me and I can't help but agree.
Romelia Stankard
24.06.2012
Originally Posted by DigitalDevil


With the term "DJ" he's not really referring to the local resident DJ doing different things every evening , he's referring to all the big headliners that play the same set for an entire tour.
No, he hates all DJs and has even more distaste for local DJs who don't produce. He was referring to the latter back when he called all DJs cunts and if you listen to any of his rants he bashes regular djs more as worthless record players and believes the working DJ needs to die and is no longer relevant.

http://trainspottr.com/djproducer-de...cking-cts/1452
May Artman
24.06.2012
I'll never understand the extreme hate toward deadmau5 for what he does as a producer/performer. I get it that a lot of people dislike him for his attitude, and obviously (as with anything else) not everyone will like his music, but all the foaming at the mouth levels of hate about his shows is ridiculous. Some of you make it sound like he's an international terrorist for putting on a helmet and pressing a spacebar just because tons of people pay to see it.

Realistically his live set isnt that good. your pretty much paying around 60$ to hear your Deadmau5 playlist in itunes.
If you really want to dumb it down to that, you could say the same thing about almost every big name in the industry.

Originally Posted by rdale
About the article the guy has no idea what he is really talking about, there is so much more to DJing than pushing play, even when I use sync. I'm frequently remixing tracks in real time, building new sounds and controlling the vibe with out ever writing a note. I guess it is lazy to figure out sweet mixes.
With the term "DJ" he's not really referring to the local resident DJ doing different things every evening , he's referring to all the big headliners that play the same set for an entire tour.
Lauretta Ehrhorn
24.06.2012
Originally Posted by mostapha
Zing.

Also, cheers.

Back during the "all DJs are cunts" fiasco, it came out that he honestly thought real people bought his shit, not the DJs he constantly insulted.



Prodigy
KLF
Shamen
Orbital
Underworld
about a billion other people from the acid house & rave scenes.

No, they're not playing all of the instruments. Some part of all of their shows was pressing play on something like a sequencer or drum machine. But they all do more live than deadmaofive.

He's a worthless piece of scum, and there's no reason any self-respecting DJ should ever play his music or give his opinions any reverence.
Great list of early Uk rave artists and many many more doing original stuff back then
Freida Leash
24.06.2012
There is really a balance between the show and the sound. My ideal "rig" is a show with installed in a venue with two performances a week. Would love to make a true visual and aural experience that goes beyond what has been seen. Nobody has really done that with dance music in a fair while and no one has ever done it where the performance is integrated in the proper way of enhancing the experience.
My first "rave" was warehouse style in the early 90's, the lights where at best poor, the sound ok, the music midwest style "house". It was great! It was about the people and not the music, I believe todays culture has changed it about something else, more like watching instead of being apart of the experience. There has to be a way to redirect that energy where it belongs, but it is going to to take effort at making the whole show more inclusive of the audience. Maybe this isn't the time and everything must die and regrow to have that vibe again.
About the article the guy has no idea what he is really talking about, there is so much more to DJing than pushing play, even when I use sync. I'm frequently remixing tracks in real time, building new sounds and controlling the vibe with out ever writing a note. I guess it is lazy to figure out sweet mixes.
Rosenda Gossage
24.06.2012
Originally Posted by mostapha
It's a mixture of things. But the sad thing is that people have been doing stuff with sync'd visuals, fireworks, etc. since the '70s
Dorie Scelzo
24.06.2012
Originally Posted by ellgieff
Music: it's not experienced through the eyes unless it's so loud that it's reducing you to a gelatinous pulp.
It's a mixture of things. But the sad thing is that people have been doing stuff with sync'd visuals, fireworks, etc. since the '70s……with real instruments.

He hasn't done anything that Kiss and Metallica didn't do when he was a baby except replace a lot of people's talent and hard work with the work of coders that get even less effort than pyrotechs.
Rosenda Gossage
23.06.2012
Originally Posted by MiL0
I would suggest anyone who's berating Deadmau5 check out the live DVD he released awhile back. It's one of my favourite live EDM DVD's since I picked up The Prodigy - Electronic Punks VHS tape.

I believe the point he's making is that he knows how to put on a damn fine live show. I couldn't give a shit if he's just pressing the space bar (which he's not). I pays my money and I wanna be blown away by his set and the inevitably amazing visuals. I've seen The Prodigy, Chemical Brothers, Underworld and Orbital countless times and they're no different... it's no more 'live' than Deadmau5. Orbital used to trigger loops via a bunch of Alesis MMT8's when they played live(!)... Deadmau5 is going WAY beyond that and Orbital are/were generally considered to one of the top live EDM shows.

If you've gone to a Deadmau5 'live' show and expect to see a dj who 'reads the crowd', you've clearly gone to the wrong show. Watching Deadmau5 live is about something different... if you don't like how he performs 'live' then you're not the intended market he's aiming at. And the market/punters he's aiming at will keep on dancing to his live shows whilst all the keyboard warriors on DJTT keep on bitching.

Bigups to Deadmau5... if only for being honest.
If you go to any music show in order to see the performance, I feel sorry for you.

Music: it's not experienced through the eyes unless it's so loud that it's reducing you to a gelatinous pulp.
Margie Pavell
23.06.2012
just reinforces what i believe about him...
Alfred Takala
23.06.2012
Its funny cause for the longest time i though his anti dj campaign was directed at SHM and David Guetta but apparently he's friends/gets along with them? Maybe he just hates pauly D. Realistically his live set isnt that good. your pretty much paying around 60$ to hear your Deadmau5 playlist in itunes. But i do agree partially i believe that producing...and doing it well to a high standard then yes. preach joel.
Noriko Lebowitz
23.06.2012
he's a malnourished hypocrite...
Romelia Stankard
23.06.2012
I believe the funniest part about the whole thing is that deadmau5 will refuse to call himself a DJ despite the fact that his unplugged shows are DJ sets and no different from what all the DJs at festivals he makes fun of do.

He shows up with a DB4 and two x1s and plays tracks, I don't know what else it is he believes he's doing that that's not DJing.

And here is a video of deamau5 DJing in the studio, DJing other people's tracks.

Birgit Gondal
23.06.2012
what a real, proper knob-end. i will ram two 1210's so far up his ass he'll be throat-fucked by a tonearm. anyone who spontaneously picks their next track, or beatmatches, or MC's, or scratches, is playing more live than Deadmau5 just admitted to. He successfully managed to piss off not only the DJ's that hate him but the DJ's that love him. that poorly-written paragraph of shame just alienated a huge group of his fan base. I, at the pain of sounding hipster, loved deadmau5 about 4 years ago. realised soon after that all his tracks sound the same, he doesnt do ANYTHING inventive and he's just all round a bit of a twat. this just re-confirms it, to anyone who didn't know yet.
Arcelia Siebeneck
23.06.2012
I would suggest anyone who's berating Deadmau5 check out the live DVD he released awhile back. It's one of my favourite live EDM DVD's since I picked up The Prodigy - Electronic Punks VHS tape.

I believe the point he's making is that he knows how to put on a damn fine live show. I couldn't give a shit if he's just pressing the space bar (which he's not). I pays my money and I wanna be blown away by his set and the inevitably amazing visuals. I've seen The Prodigy, Chemical Brothers, Underworld and Orbital countless times and they're no different... it's no more 'live' than Deadmau5. Orbital used to trigger loops via a bunch of Alesis MMT8's when they played live(!)... Deadmau5 is going WAY beyond that and Orbital are/were generally considered to one of the top live EDM shows.

If you've gone to a Deadmau5 'live' show and expect to see a dj who 'reads the crowd', you've clearly gone to the wrong show. Watching Deadmau5 live is about something different... if you don't like how he performs 'live' then you're not the intended market he's aiming at. And the market/punters he's aiming at will keep on dancing to his live shows whilst all the keyboard warriors on DJTT keep on bitching.

Bigups to Deadmau5... if only for being honest.
Dorie Scelzo
23.06.2012
Originally Posted by 3heads
Maybe he should start with doing something special in the studio before even believeing about the rest.....
Zing.

Also, cheers.

Originally Posted by loverocket
it's interesting that he believes people care about his studio productions.
Back during the "all DJs are cunts" fiasco, it came out that he honestly thought real people bought his shit, not the DJs he constantly insulted.

Originally Posted by deadmaofive
im not going to let it go believeing that people assume theres a guy on a laptop up there producing new original tracks on the fly. becausje none of the “top dj’s in the world” to my knowledge have. myself included.
Prodigy
KLF
Shamen
Orbital
Underworld
about a billion other people from the acid house & rave scenes.

No, they're not playing all of the instruments. Some part of all of their shows was pressing play on something like a sequencer or drum machine. But they all do more live than deadmaofive.

He's a worthless piece of scum, and there's no reason any self-respecting DJ should ever play his music or give his opinions any reverence.
Jerica Salava
23.06.2012
it's interesting that he believes people care about his studio productions. 90% of the people at ULTRA MUSIC festival will never buy a single Deadmua5 track. They are there to do drugs, have fun, try to have sex and brag that "I was at ULTRA and Deadmau5 killed it."
Celestine Porebski
23.06.2012
Originally Posted by rotebass
4th beat. 4th bar would be 16 counts, I don't believe Deadmau5 can count that high
And even if he could, with all those 8bar phrases he'd still be out of luck....
Lela Umanskaya
23.06.2012
Originally Posted by loverocket
I believe he's referring to phrasing. Counting to 4 is not beat matching. Counting to 4 is phrasing. In other words, deciphering where the 4th bar ends and the next one begins.

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4th beat. 4th bar would be 16 counts, I don't believe Deadmau5 can count that high
Jerica Salava
23.06.2012
Originally Posted by TommyQuiet
this pretty much sums up the whole "beat matching thing"
I believe he's referring to phrasing. Counting to 4 is not beat matching. Counting to 4 is phrasing. In other words, deciphering where the 4th bar ends and the next one begins.

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Francis Leckliter
23.06.2012
To some extent I agree. Honestly to be at a competent level of just keeping the music going and rocking a crowd a lot of skill is not needed. And there is MUCH living proof out there of people who are earning money from simply pressing buttons, judging waveforms and following formulas. The entrance bar has really dropped. and like everything it has it's pros and cons. As now people with no real vision can competently just push some buttons randomly and produce something interesting.

However I do like to believe and have seen also proof of just amazing mixing coming together that is improvised, yet obviously has a clear vision with specific goals that are meant to be accomplished with that mix. Where it makes sense and is a bit more intelligent and human and not intentful.

But honestly my car audio has automatic crossfader, and my friends have said many times it sounds awesome how one song went into another, and to be honest sometimes I definitely agree and a simple pre-programmed crossfade sounds amazing mixing two things I would of never thought would transition that simply. I'm appreciating the music not a skill.

If I could listen from an unbiased perspective of JUST the music, I'm not sure how many artsts including myself could really hear the difference soul and emotion makes versus products from intelligent algorithms simulating that.
Celestine Porebski
23.06.2012
But to stand up and say youre doing something special outside of a studio environment, when youre not, just plain fuckin annoys me.
Maybe he should start with doing something special in the studio before even believeing about the rest.....
Kandy Ahdoot
23.06.2012
this pretty much sums up the whole "beat matching thing"

“beatmatching” isnt even a fucking skill as far as im concered anyway. so what, you can count to 4. cool. i had that skill down when i was 3
Salvatore Husley
23.06.2012
Originally Posted by cyberphox
certainly would never read a book written in that style...
It really wasn't an easy read due to his awful writing skills.
Era Roka
23.06.2012
Originally Posted by Shane Says
Not interesting at all. To be a great DJ it takes a lot of talent. Anyone who believes otherwise needs to go see a great DJ play with the croud's emotions. Also how much does he make a year? He definitely needs to stop caring what we believe about him.
Totally agree, but i never heard a DJ talking about his self that way, so still intresting to me.
Johnna Callery
23.06.2012
certainly would never read a book written in that style....or maybe definitely not by a guy in a "big silly mouse head"
EDM ain't my thing anyways..
Salvatore Husley
23.06.2012
Not interesting at all. To be a great DJ it takes a lot of talent. Anyone who believes otherwise needs to go see a great DJ play with the croud's emotions. Also how much does he make a year? He definitely needs to stop caring what we believe about him.
Xiomara Woolworth
23.06.2012
thats awesome. stickittodaman.
Era Roka
23.06.2012
intresting
Linda Chavda
23.06.2012
Hopefully you don't try and read a book anytime soon then. Fourty nine shades of lazy?
Johnna Callery
23.06.2012
got bored reading midway thru the 3rd paragraph...

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