Duplicating the DJTT S2 mapping to control 4 decks.

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Duplicating the DJTT S2 mapping to control 4 decks.
Posted on: 12.04.2012 by Daine Ziadeh
Since i'm a guy that wouldn't use all of these effects, i'm believeing, is there a way i can use the Shift+Reset modifier in this mapping to engage Deck C and the other Shift+Reset modifier to engage Deck D with all of it's functions?

It would be like the S4's Deck C button next to the jog wheel. Instead of the modifiers engaging all of this effects, it would simply swap to the corresponding deck according to which Shift+Reset button you pressed.

And also a way to control the key of a song..i'm the type of guy that loves looping a bit, bringing it down to 1/16 and starting raising the key to add that rise effect.

thanks alot!
Daine Ziadeh
18.04.2012		You need to click the link, at first i bring the loop out in (make it smaller) then i return it to the original position, then after it's in the original position i bring the loop in in (make it smaller) then i try to return it to original position and stop. Not sure if you understood it with words but i'm sure the audio will explain it better.
Kellie Myrum
18.04.2012		No need for example got it now, that comes very handy but require two modifiers. One per side. This feature could share same modifiers as shifts but with different values so when it's push it will not effect pitch bending same like shift does.
Daine Ziadeh
18.04.2012		Loop size changes the size of the loop (only on the out) it doesn't affect the IN part, and it changes it in exact sizes by that i mean 1/2 - 2 - 4 - 8 - 16 and so on.

The function im telling you allows me to change the loop size by bringing the IN part lower or bigger or the OUT part lower or bigger, and it doesn't change it in exact sizes.

I'm going to post an example for you to hear it.
Kellie Myrum
18.04.2012
Originally Posted by JulianVeloso
3- There was a function in the default S2 mapping that the DJTT missed. the function was that if you held Right.loop.in or Right.loop.out while moving the jogwheel it would bring the loop in or out depending on the button you pressed recreating this CDJ effect that alot of dj's use. (it also works for the left.loop.in and the left.loop.out)
Can you please be little more specific because I'm not familiar with default S4 mapping at all? Isn't that same function as loop size does?
Daine Ziadeh
18.04.2012		Before you continue may i suggest something that's not in the DJTT mappings?

1- Make left.loop.move and right.loop.move control the key of the track and by pressing them it will reset the key? Instead of the beatjump function it currently has, lots of people don't have use for that when you got the jogwheel for seeking position.
2- Make left.loop.out and right.loop.out not exist the current loop, Why? because:
3- There was a function in the default S2 mapping that the DJTT missed. the function was that if you held Right.loop.in or Right.loop.out while moving the jogwheel it would bring the loop in or out depending on the button you pressed recreating this CDJ effect that alot of dj's use. (it also works for the left.loop.in and the left.loop.out)
4- add some LED output to know when you're in deck C or deck B mode? This could be the sample button engage (Center.Sample Decks.engage C) it would light up or bleep?
Kellie Myrum
18.04.2012		It is seek position with interaction mode direct with value 0.000 which in that case zero=track start. It is mapped like that by DJTT. Good to know everything's ok. Loops are next to go...
Daine Ziadeh
18.04.2012		Everything works fine, but you got something wrong, it's not seek position Shift+cue takes you back to the beggining of the track. Unless you consider this ''Seek position'' i believe seek position will be mapped to the jogwheel.
Kellie Myrum
18.04.2012		Key lock, sync, set to master, cue and seek position mapped.

Update: http://www.traktorbible.com/freaks/m...ew.aspx?id=417
Daine Ziadeh
18.04.2012		Yes it does.
Kellie Myrum
17.04.2012		Lets say deck C is playing and A is stopped. Wonder if you'r currently in deck C mode and when u get out of it back to A does it switch the LED of to indicate that deck A is not playing?
Daine Ziadeh
17.04.2012		i don't know what i'm i supposed to be checking here, but if your wondering if the play button lights up when i press play while on deck C then yeah it does.
Kellie Myrum
17.04.2012		Updated with C and D play buttons only because I'm not really sure if LED outputs will work properly since this is first time ever that I'm mapping any of the NI controllers (with or without any LOL) so when I set it right will know what to do with the rest ow those guys.

Check it out: http://www.traktorbible.com/freaks/m...ew.aspx?id=417
Daine Ziadeh
16.04.2012		It's cool, no rush, i'm so thankful for the time you've taken to do this.
Kellie Myrum
16.04.2012
Originally Posted by JulianVeloso
Gain and filters are working, dude you are god.
Cool I'll work on transport controls tomorrow... Don't know where your from but it's late now at this side of planet.
Daine Ziadeh
16.04.2012		Gain and filters are working, dude you are god.
Kellie Myrum
16.04.2012		Think I got gains and filter done. Just need to add it to mapping and upload so you can give it a test.

edit:

Update to map: http://www.traktorbible.com/freaks/m...ew.aspx?id=417
Daine Ziadeh
15.04.2012
Originally Posted by CionniAsDj
It can be done, it is only a loooong mapping work, anyway, I really don't like layout of controls, control A or C, and I I wanna control both at the same time?
Anyway, I'll have a look in free time and map for 4 deck
Only question is, deck c and d, acting like samples deck or track deck?
cionni, download Stewe's mapping, he's got modifiers working properly(WOOT!) , you would just need to add the other functions.
Daine Ziadeh
15.04.2012		Hotcues aren't used as shift modifiers. Shift+hotcue = Hotcue delete. Gain isn't a shift+modifier either. It becomes one only if you have Filter fix option which makes gain a shift+gain. if you don't have the filter fix filter becomes the shift+gain. Loop controls aren't shift modifier either, i would only need loop set which is Left.loop.set and loop size which is left.loop.size make left.loop.move control Key and left.loop.active reset the key to 0.
Kellie Myrum
15.04.2012
Originally Posted by CionniAsDj
It can be done, it is only a loooong mapping work, anyway, I really don't like layout of controls, control A or C, and I I wanna control both at the same time?
Anyway, I'll have a look in free time and map for 4 deck
Only question is, deck c and d, acting like samples deck or track deck?
If you believe so be my guest. I would like to see how you'll handle hotcues C and D to work properlly.
Somer Vanstraten
15.04.2012		It can be done, it is only a loooong mapping work, anyway, I really don't like layout of controls, control A or C, and I I wanna control both at the same time?
Anyway, I'll have a look in free time and map for 4 deck
Only question is, deck c and d, acting like samples deck or track deck?
Kellie Myrum
15.04.2012		Ones that got something to do with M1=1 and M2=1 (shif modifiers) so that would be hot's, gains and maybe some more, don't know exactly right now.
Daine Ziadeh
15.04.2012		Which ones?
Kellie Myrum
15.04.2012		Man it's impossible to get all those controls to work by activating like jog fx mode (shift+reset). Not sure that you follow me?
Daine Ziadeh
15.04.2012		To be honest, i don't need that much controls on Deck C and D i mainly use those 2 for acapellas, so Hotcues, sync, cue, play, EQ's, volume faders, effects, loop controls, gain and filter and the jogwheel would be ok. No need to go deep into the modifiers that Deck A and B use. ( i know that sounds like everything the control has but there's so much more to it )
Kellie Myrum
15.04.2012		Oh yeah! Glad to hear modifiers are well set. I'll see if some of other controls can be done at all, like I said before hotcues and maybe gains and some more controls will not be easy to come with solution to map. It's really hard to explain why because it is even too f* complicated by default. Maybe if I set modifier to be activated by press tempo reset button directly (without shift) could be possible to make all controls to work originally as decks A and B. I will set soft takeover on volume faders too...
Daine Ziadeh
16.04.2012		Dude this mapping is going to be so great, i'm so excited men.
Daine Ziadeh
16.04.2012		and maybe soft takeover on the eq's to prevent EQ jumps from time to time?
Daine Ziadeh
16.04.2012		it works!!!!!!! holy shittt! can you map play and all that shit!?? OMG THANK U SO MUCH!
Kellie Myrum
15.04.2012		I did some work on modify this mapping today. All jog fx commands are now deleted and shift+tempo reset modifiers added per both sides. It's your turn now to test if I made modifiers to work correct, I have duplicated and assigned C and D EQs, monitor cues and volume faders so you can give modifiers a try. Also, when leaving this mode first press shift and then reset to switch it off.

Map is uploaded to Traktor Bible website so dl it and give it a try:

http://www.traktorbible.com/freaks/m...ew.aspx?id=417
Daine Ziadeh
14.04.2012		That would work too, but i was aiming for individual Deck controlling, like i could control Deck C and B at the same time, and Deck D and A.

If you can just try to get the shift+reset modifier to control Deck C instead of Jog FX and i'll copy all that and make it work for Deck D, i just want a template then i can play with it and test it out. I'm really shit at this modifier stuff.
Kellie Myrum
14.04.2012		Man I'm blind here without controller because this require a lot of tasting to make it right. Maybe the easiest solution for you is to modify A and B controls in to C and D and import it in MIDI mode?
Daine Ziadeh
14.04.2012		Maybe another modifier? Maybe deleting the samples? or it's impossible to remove stuff from the default mapping?
Kellie Myrum
14.04.2012		Yup, I know how to map but it's hard to get into it without S2 controller. Had some digging on this mapping and I believe it is impossible to get hotcues on decks C and D to work because samples already took shift modifier=0. Let me see if there is some other way to fix this...
Daine Ziadeh
15.04.2012
Originally Posted by Stewe
I don't have skype but will give my best to explain it from here. First you cant use only one modifier to make it work like in DJTT map, need at least four of them (two per side) because you need to place one modifier to shift button (lets say m1=1, hold) and second to reset button (m2=2, toggle; with modifier conditions of shift button m1=1) so m2 can be activated only if shift button is hold before pressing reset button. Then all deck C controls set to m2=2 and deck A controls set to m2=0 so deck A controls wont work when m2 is activated. That's why I said it is the best to figure it out what modifiers are already set in there by DJTT mappers.
I believe i got it, but what about the functions that need modifiers to work? for example Shift+play sets Keylock on a track. That would be a modifier in a modifier, it's fucking inception. To be honest i need some way of quick interaction to get through this, you seem to know alot about mappings, is there a way we can communicate faster? MSN, blackberry, whatsapp?
Kellie Myrum
14.04.2012		I don't have skype but will give my best to explain it from here. First you cant use only one modifier to make it work like in DJTT map, need at least four of them (two per side) because you need to place one modifier to shift button (lets say m1=1, hold) and second to reset button (m2=2, toggle; with modifier conditions of shift button m1=1) so m2 can be activated only if shift button is hold before pressing reset button. Then all deck C controls set to m2=2 and deck A controls set to m2=0 so deck A controls wont work when m2 is activated. That's why I said it is the best to figure it out what modifiers are already set in there by DJTT mappers.
Daine Ziadeh
13.04.2012		Dang anyone?
Daine Ziadeh
13.04.2012		I've tried everything, when i try adding a new mapping for example play..

I assign it to Deck C, under modifier M1=1, it will only work if i hold shift down, but if i press shift+reset it will not work, which is what i'm trying to get.
Daine Ziadeh
14.04.2012
Originally Posted by Stewe
First you need to delete all jog fx controls and figure out which modifiers are those fx settings assigned for. Then use those same modifiers for your new deck C and D controls.
Man it's too hard, i just wanna use the one modifier that enables the Jog wheel as an FX, then instead of it enabling the jog wheel as FX it would simple enable all the functions to work on Deck C (if i pressed the shift+reset on deck A and if i pressed shift+reset on deck b it would enable deck D)

THink you can help me map this through skype or something?
Kellie Myrum
13.04.2012		First you need to delete all jog fx controls and figure out which modifiers are those fx settings assigned for. Then use those same modifiers for your new deck C and D controls.
Daine Ziadeh
13.04.2012
Originally Posted by Stewe
Sorry then mate, my bad.. I haven't tested that map, just fund it and thought to share it here because that would be much easier solution for you than to edit the whole DJTT S2 mapping.
i wouldnt be editing the whole mapping, id just be modifying it, but i need some help because i dont really understand modifiers..

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