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Gemini Cntrl-7 and Traktor Help.........
Posted on: 18.05.2012 by Emily Avedian
Hi does any one has a .tsi for the jog wheels to scratch its touch sen jogs i cant seem to mapped them.
Stephnie Schwenker
19.07.2012
Ah the pic has shrunk. They are:

Monitor Vol Adjust / In / Global / Direct / Ch01.CC.042
Monitor Mix Adjust / In / Global / Direct / Ch01.CC.040
Curve Adjust / In / Global / Direct / Ch01.CC031
Stephnie Schwenker
19.07.2012
Hey Stewe, sorry for the lack of reply, my computer had died on me. All fixed now. First impressions are good. Basic functions are tight.

My only grumble - and its minor - is that the low/mid/high knobs don't fully kill. Is it possible to tweak that?

I've added a couple of my own bits. On the front panel (you can't see it on the pic above) are monitor headphone volume, monitor mix and X-Fader curve controls. Screenshot below if you want to add to your .tsi.

monitor.jpg
Kellie Myrum
05.07.2012
Originally Posted by psimonius
Hey Stewe,

Thanks for your efforts on this. I've seen the great work you've done here and on the NI community s. I've just bought the CNTRL-7 and want to use it with Traktor so if you're still working on this TSI, I may be able to help. Let me know.
Hey Psimonius, nice to see reply on this

Have you downloaded it at NI community ? If so, can you please tell me is there any issues with mapping at this moment?Yes, still working on it and I would like to get all controls to work properly before posting it on downloading sites. Here is diagram and tsi:

ctrl_7 layout.JPG

ctrl-7.tsi
Stephnie Schwenker
05.07.2012
Hey Stewe,

Thanks for your efforts on this. I've seen the great work you've done here and on the NI community s. I've just bought the CNTRL-7 and want to use it with Traktor so if you're still working on this TSI, I may be able to help. Let me know.
Britany Abdill
25.06.2012
Thanks i finally bought American audio vsm4 it should works great! can't wait!
Kellie Myrum
25.06.2012
Originally Posted by xhaze
sorry i can't test the .tsi now :s
It should work I guess, I only need to map control over effects and that's it. Thank you for pic your assistance on creating this one with all your testing. I wish you luck with your new peace of gear!

Happy mixing
Britany Abdill
25.06.2012
Originally Posted by Stewe
Can you please upload same picture of your crtl-7? But this time leave it clear for me to create a diagram of controls when the mapping is finished
Here is the only clean picture i got, i've just sent my controller back, sorry it's bad quality and i didn't kept the original you want
2012-06-23_14-17-29_441.jpg

sorry i can't test the .tsi now :s
Kellie Myrum
25.06.2012
Can you please upload same picture of your crtl-7? But this time leave it clear for me to create a diagram of controls when the mapping is finished
Kellie Myrum
25.06.2012
You are wellcome

I've added looping and search feature to decks A and B in to mapping.

-/Loop In/- loop active on/off (working LED)?
-/Loop out/- set direct 4 beat loop.
-/Loop arrows/- loop size same as in VDJ.
-/Search/- hold search button and twist jog wheel to search trough track.

ctrl-7.tsi
Britany Abdill
25.06.2012
Nice Thanks you so much for everything you have done to help me!
Kellie Myrum
25.06.2012
Yes, you should probably switch to some controller with better integration with traktor. I'm still going to finish this mapping but without hotcues section and gonna leave few more buttons with duplicate MIDI notes clear. Some simple mapping should do for this unit.
Britany Abdill
25.06.2012
I'm so disappointed with this gemini controller,
i'm gonna contact my seller send them back and may switch to American Audio VSM 4 who seems to works better on Traktor and everything
Kellie Myrum
24.06.2012
I did look for help about this multiple MIDI assignments on Digital DJ Tips community and this is what I got as response:

"Unfortunately I can't help as it's defined in VDJ with HID protocol, I can say that all buttons are on their own byte with no duplicates. Your probably better off contacting Gemini support directly as it may be a bug that requires a firmware update.

You could also use midi-ox to get the raw midi data to see if the duplicate messages are on separate channels. Or run it through a HID-midi converter middleware program before reaching traktor."
Britany Abdill
24.06.2012
it was just for test i reload the .tsi
Kellie Myrum
24.06.2012
There are two errors.

1.Hotcue 3, deck A seem to be mapped to some fader/knob (CC.024). Remap it to hotcue 3 button!

2.At deck B you have mapped hotcue 1 and hotcue 2 to same button. Please be more careful.
Britany Abdill
24.06.2012
I'm not sure i've exactly done what you asked me

here is a screenshot Sans titre.jpg
Kellie Myrum
24.06.2012
Have you try to map this hotcue1 directly with controller? Maybe it is only issue with displaying value but software read exact one?

Just find hotcue1 (B) in the list and MIDI learn it with corresponding button.
Britany Abdill
24.06.2012
they use the same channel : Ch01.Note.C#-1,
and same for the others by example Ch01.Note.E-1
Kellie Myrum
24.06.2012
I got a random thought. Maybe your controller is sending same midi note (C#-1) on different channels by itself??

Open controller manager and click "learn", now press hotcue1 button on deck B and take a look at which MIDI channel is that button sending massage trough.

Example: Ch 1.Note.C#-1

I need to know which "Ch" does it display in front of C#-1?
Britany Abdill
23.06.2012
I understand why nobody like gemini lol
Kellie Myrum
23.06.2012
Too bad... Like I said it's unlikely that will work. Mourning is smarter than the evening, maybe I'll got some better tomorrow.
Britany Abdill
23.06.2012
hot cue 1 on Deck B don't work : /
Kellie Myrum
23.06.2012
And when you press hotcue1 on deck B nothing should be happening on deck A. If this is the case here then I managed to overcome this stupid multiple labeled MIDI mappings.

What about shift+hotcue to delete it from track?
Britany Abdill
23.06.2012
i believe i got it when i press hotcue 3 on deck A nothing happened on the deck B
Is that what you want to know? Last try and i make a video
Kellie Myrum
23.06.2012
My question was simple: When pressing hotcue3 for deck A, does it effect for hotcue1 on deck B to play also, since those both share the same MIDI note C#-1? If I managed to overcome this with changing the MIDI channels then it shouldn't. Sorry but I can't formulate this question simple than this.

If still have no clue what I'm talking about than making that video would be the best solution to proceed with mapping.
Britany Abdill
23.06.2012
Hotcues 1 2 3 on Deck A works good and Hot cues 1 in Deck is same assigment as Hotcue 3 in Deck A
sorry i'm not sure i understood what you asked to me?
Kellie Myrum
23.06.2012
Sorry but that didn't help much. Im believeing of hotcue 1 on deck b that share same C#-1 assignment as hotcue 3 on deck A. Actually you need to give me input if all hotcues work at all? With out holding shifts! Shift is for deleting hotcues.
Britany Abdill
23.06.2012
When i hold hot cue 3 on desk A :screen1hotcue3.jpg
i released it and then hold hot cue 1 screen1hotcue1.jpg
Britany Abdill
23.06.2012
i'm gonna upload screenshots and try to explain if it don't work i'll make a video
Britany Abdill
23.06.2012
Maybe i'm wrong it don't work fine lol
Kellie Myrum
23.06.2012
Originally Posted by xhaze
hotcues works fine on decks A with scratch button but on the deck B just hot cue 2 works
Can you make some video? I'm blind here.
Britany Abdill
23.06.2012
hotcues works fine on decks A with scratch button but on the deck B just hot cue 2 works
Kellie Myrum
23.06.2012
No you don't understand I'm not changing assignments, can't do that. I've just placed same assignments to different channels. Just hit hotcue3 on deck A and look if hotcue1 respons to same button press???
Kellie Myrum
23.06.2012
I have mapped deck A shift to left /scratch/ button and deck B shift to right /scratch/ button.

-Added hotcues to both decks with different MIDI channels for double mapings... Hope it work

ctrl-7.tsi
Britany Abdill
23.06.2012
Okay Thanks you i'm gonna check again if something change

Edit: same lol
Kellie Myrum
23.06.2012
Same with E4 bro! Can't believe that gemini have failed on this... I can try to set it all to different MIDI channels. It is a unlikely it should work but that's only thing that comes to my mind right now. Give me a sec.
Britany Abdill
23.06.2012
is there any solutions?
Kellie Myrum
23.06.2012
Again, there are double G#0 (left BPM and hotcue 1) and E-1 (left effect selector and right button 2 under the vu meter) ...
Britany Abdill
23.06.2012
I agree.. WTF
Kellie Myrum
23.06.2012
And on mixer shift button also! lol

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