Stanton SC System (1D+1M) DJTT Review
Stanton SC System (1D+1M) DJTT Review Posted on: 29.09.2010 by Aurea Kager Hi there guys, so i was watching some gear on the internet and i noticed that there | |
| Cammy Clegg 05.10.2010 | This is a little off topic. But is there a way to by pass using firewire cause like i dont have an express slot. or a firewire port. |
| Diogo Dj Dragão 05.10.2010 |
I fully understand that reverse engineering a NI product is a sensitive issue for you as you are a stanton employee.
The CDJ 2000, 900 and 400 got support very quickly.
Would be very cool to see a cdj version of the scs 1D I believe it could be a real competitor to pioneer would be cool to see that as the next industry standaRD. Unfortantly I dont believe this would ever happen
Also, let me clear something up. The SCS.1 controllers are firewire devices. HID is typically a USB spec. There is NO WAY for any software company to develop an HID implementation for the SCS.1 without Stanton making major changes to (at the very least) the driver. And the only way to make it happen in a way that is sure to be easily supported by software developers is to change the SCS.1 hardware completely. What Stanton is looking for from companies like NI is NOT HID support. It's not at all necessary. What they want is a high resolution, high speed MIDI platter message. If there was also a calibration process for MIDI devices in Traktor, all the better. |
| Marguerite Truka 05.10.2010 | hey when I was talking about room size i was just on about the sound output from the sound cards ability to be amplified. I fully understand that reverse engineering a NI product is a sensitive issue for you as you are a stanton employee. I would never surgest a company follow such a path. However this would be an amazing community project. I also do understand the complexity of such a project. It would be alot more involved than the reverse engineering of the vci 100 as that was just editing the firmware impressive by itself however a small task compared to reverse engineering the firmware, darouter, the driver, the controller manager and possibly traktor. This would also raise some legal issues. The process itself would not be the problem it would be the distribution of that material. I could sence a few cease and desist letters. I would love to do this however my degree and djing are hogging alot of my time. Also would need a team for such a project. I have allready emailed NI on a couple of occasions about scs 1d HID support. About button response its really in correlation to the platter an example is pressing the cue button with a rapid forward motion of the platter to create a stab. I believe it is the scratch on signal that is the problem. It just not quick enough. As you work for stanton could you tell us if there has been talks with NI about support and how they are going if they are still ongoing. The CDJ 2000, 900 and 400 got support very quickly. my technics 1200 mark 2 where released 32 years we should of found a better way to manipulate a record by now. The scs 1D actually feels like a real piece of kit not like a piece of plastic ie every CDJ i have ever used. not used the 2000's yet. Would be very cool to see a cdj version of the scs 1D I believe it could be a real competitor to pioneer would be cool to see that as the next industry standaRD. Unfortantly I dont believe this would ever happen |
| Aurea Kager 05.10.2010 |
Originally Posted by nem0nic
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| Diogo Dj Dragão 04.10.2010 | PS...
Mate could you tape a detailed video of the different functions on the scs1m and 1d mappings for TP?
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| Diogo Dj Dragão 04.10.2010 |
if we want it quicker the best bet would be to reverse engineer the control editor that comes with traktor to make it believe the scs1d is a controller it recognises and modify da router so you get the 4000 counts. all the videos posted still show some drift.
If you believe the SCS.1 controllers need Traktor support, you need to talk to NI about implementing it.
also they need to work on button response times.
the sound card is more than capable of running a room of about 600 ppl any more i cant tell you but i couldnt see any cause for concern.
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| Herma Buschelman 04.10.2010 |
Originally Posted by oscarjmg
I can tell you that it's very detailed, meaning anything one can believe of to mix 4 decks has been built into the darouter preset and TSI. Looking at the preset in Bomes, it's honestly the most complex translator I've seen yet. I'm just now getting accustomed to 4 deck mixing. As the scs1d is controlling one deck manually, the scs1m mixer has controls for all of the other decks. FX, Loop, etc. The preset buttons, on the right side of the mixer, are how you scroll through the functions, and the up/down scrolls through the decks. I'm working on understanding it all. It's a lot to take in |
| Marguerite Truka 03.10.2010 | it is capabile of 4000 counts however it needs traktor support. hopefully in the next majour release they will add general traktor support. if we want it quicker the best bet would be to reverse engineer the control editor that comes with traktor to make it believe the scs1d is a controller it recognises and modify da router so you get the 4000 counts. all the videos posted still show some drift. also they need to work on button response times. the sound card is more than capable of running a room of about 600 ppl any more i cant tell you but i couldnt see any cause for concern. however i would recomend people go for somthing like the ecler evo 4 or the korg zero 4 as they are a real mixer aswell just gives you more oppertunity to explore. I also like my mixers to feel like mixers and i just dont get that feel from the scs 1m. it is a usefull production tool. However I believe we do need a group of people or an individual to put together a amazing mapping for the scs 1d |
| Aurea Kager 03.10.2010 |
Originally Posted by Buckner
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| Herma Buschelman 01.10.2010 | Ok fellas, this ain't practised, there's only the camera sound, I just woke up, and as many have pointed out "juggling from looking at the screen" ain't easy. It's interesting to me because I like the idea of two scs3m, two scs1d, and the one scs1m. I can envision one 3m as a regular mixer, one 3m as FX+Mixer combined(things like pitch + CF) functions, and then the scs1d as your pre-out/levels mixer. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F_YWQSRuxwQ |
| Aurea Kager 30.09.2010 |
Originally Posted by nem0nic
You dont really know what to expect.... Also im believeing to take buy them so i can take them with me to Europe... But the warranty its only on the US. Even so im really believeing about it... |
| Diogo Dj Dragão 30.09.2010 |
I might believe that refubrished isnt Factor restock.
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| Aurea Kager 30.09.2010 |
Originally Posted by Rokku
It says: "This is a factory restock item" Factory Restock minds: "Factory Restock products may have scratches, dents, signs of use or other forms of cosmetic damage that do not affect playability or performance. They may also have worn or non-original packaging. Factory Restock products may have been returned to the factory by customers or retailers, or they may have failed to pass quality standards during the manufacturing process. In either case, they are repaired and packaged at the factory for resale at a reduced price. Standards of quality vary from one manufacturer to the next." The question is if they are in really good condition dont you believe, i dont doubt in MusicianFriend, but the diference its huge for a refubrished product... I might believe that refubrished isnt Factor restock. |
| Diogo Dj Dragão 30.09.2010 |
Is there any way hooking it up with Macbook, which has dropped the Firewire (designed by Apple) from it's models?
Can someone at the states communicate Musicians Friends and ask about this units conditions?
*unless you're believeing about buying them and then exporting them to another country. In that case, you have no warranty. |
| Jacqulyn Shoemo 30.09.2010 | Unless stated otherwise, everything sold on Musicansfriend.com is new in the box. |
| Aurea Kager 01.10.2010 |
Originally Posted by Stumpy
Besides Mac only dropped the firewire its only present in older models of the macbook and now its only available on the macbook pro. Can someone at the states communicate Musicians Friends and ask about this units conditions? |
| Ernie Stieglitz 01.10.2010 | The price drop makes this quite interesting... Is there any way hooking it up with Macbook, which has dropped the Firewire (designed by Apple) from it's models? |
| Diogo Dj Dragão 30.09.2010 |
This is a majour as it can only have 128 values
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| Herma Buschelman 30.09.2010 | Mixing just off the 1m mixer is cool. you can do this both in traktor and ableton. the presets are feature rich and well thought out. what you see in the vid is how it comes after you do the firmware upgrade, nothing special or fancy. and I'm using the infamous richo chipset, so take that! |
| Deejay Atish 29.09.2010 | I have the SCS.1(.1d & 1m) and I love it. This past August Stanton released a firmware update that greatly improved the platter support in Traktor PRO, and cleared up some other issues. The SCS.1 uses HSS1394, a proprietary high-speed communications protocol developed by Stanton Magnetics and Bome |
| Aurea Kager 29.09.2010 |
Originally Posted by tombruton69
Also i have a couple of questions how is the sound quality of thi audio card. And, how does midi mapping work, what can you do with the software, assing layers of midi, change the midi values and that kind of stuff. Tell us about your experience with this fellas... |
| Graham Frazier 29.09.2010 | Musician's Friend has the SCS.1m for $349 http://pro-audio.musiciansfriend.com...ct?sku=631021V and the SCS.1d for $299 http://pro-audio.musiciansfriend.com...ct?sku=802028V I'm half tempted to pick up a set. |
| Marguerite Truka 29.09.2010 | i do have these units. They do have amazing potential however traktor does not support them ass hid. This is a majour as it can only have 128 values. This makes advanced scratches almost impossible. Stanton has made some improvements to the firmware however they will never see there true potential till traktor gives them hid support or sombody engineers a way to do it. Appart from thaT good build and response alot of potential. Any other questions be sure to ask and I should be able to answer 99% of them |
| Irwin Ney 29.09.2010 | SC 1D BACK SC 1M BACK |
| Irwin Ney 29.09.2010 | and it has firewire... who can say about it's audio quality on big pa systems? |
| Aurea Kager 29.09.2010 | It has tons of layers it has 2 way communication through his own software... 4 EQ, gain, filters and even more... This unit can be used to dj like a real turntable, the lower buttons are velocity sensitive.... I would love to have this beasts and a midifighter it could be a kick ass combination... |
| Ralph Alderette 29.09.2010 | ive been looking at the system since it came out. looks awesome to me. full control over 4 channels, encoders.. buy it refurbished, comes to around $600 |
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