OT: London Riots

OT: London Riots
Posted on: 08.08.2011 by Hipolito Scionti
The city has gone mental. Hope everyone is ok

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-14450248
Golden Faubert
17.08.2011
imo, yes the 4 years for the rsvp is a tad extreme but as for the bottle of water, is that really ALL they went out looting for?? im not so sure it would be, however
Golden Faubert
17.08.2011
imo, yes the 4 years for the rsvp is a tad extreme but as for the bottle of water, is that really ALL they went out looting for?? im not so sure it would be, however
Golden Faubert
17.08.2011
imo, yes the 4 years for the rsvp is a tad extreme but as for the bottle of water, is that really ALL they went out looting for?? im not so sure it would be, however
Golden Faubert
17.08.2011
imo, yes the 4 years for the rsvp is a tad extreme but as for the bottle of water, is that really ALL they went out looting for?? im not so sure it would be, however
Golden Faubert
17.08.2011
imo, yes the 4 years for the rsvp is a tad extreme but as for the bottle of water, is that really ALL they went out looting for?? im not so sure it would be, however
Golden Faubert
17.08.2011
imo, yes the 4 years for the rsvp is a tad extreme but as for the bottle of water, is that really ALL they went out looting for?? im not so sure it would be, however
Golden Faubert
17.08.2011
imo, yes the 4 years for the rsvp is a tad extreme but as for the bottle of water, is that really ALL they went out looting for?? im not so sure it would be, however
Golden Faubert
17.08.2011
imo, yes the 4 years for the rsvp is a tad extreme but as for the bottle of water, is that really ALL they went out looting for?? im not so sure it would be, however
Golden Faubert
17.08.2011
imo, yes the 4 years for the rsvp is a tad extreme but as for the bottle of water, is that really ALL they went out looting for?? im not so sure it would be, however
Golden Faubert
17.08.2011
imo, yes the 4 years for the rsvp is a tad extreme but as for the bottle of water, is that really ALL they went out looting for?? im not so sure it would be, however
Golden Faubert
17.08.2011
imo, yes the 4 years for the rsvp is a tad extreme but as for the bottle of water, is that really ALL they went out looting for?? im not so sure it would be, however
Golden Faubert
17.08.2011
imo, yes the 4 years for the rsvp is a tad extreme but as for the bottle of water, is that really ALL they went out looting for?? im not so sure it would be, however
Golden Faubert
17.08.2011
imo, yes the 4 years for the rsvp is a tad extreme but as for the bottle of water, is that really ALL they went out looting for?? im not so sure it would be, however
Golden Faubert
17.08.2011
imo, yes the 4 years for the rsvp is a tad extreme but as for the bottle of water, is that really ALL they went out looting for?? im not so sure it would be, however
Golden Faubert
17.08.2011
imo, yes the 4 years for the rsvp is a tad extreme but as for the bottle of water, is that really ALL they went out looting for?? im not so sure it would be, however
Golden Faubert
17.08.2011
imo, yes the 4 years for the rsvp is a tad extreme but as for the bottle of water, is that really ALL they went out looting for?? im not so sure it would be, however
Golden Faubert
17.08.2011
imo, yes the 4 years for the rsvp is a tad extreme but as for the bottle of water, is that really ALL they went out looting for?? im not so sure it would be, however
Golden Faubert
17.08.2011
imo, yes the 4 years for the rsvp is a tad extreme but as for the bottle of water, is that really ALL they went out looting for?? im not so sure it would be, however
Janyce Henningson
17.08.2011
Originally Posted by Michielygil
I know these riots were idiotic, but how can one justify a 6 month jailtime for stealing a bottle of water?

The way I see it, for most people it was a 'power of the mob' kinda thing. With a 6 months jailtime you're wasting a potentionally good life forever. How is that contributing to society?

4 years for a facebook RSVP, without even participating to the riots itself... Those punishments are definitely not in perspective.

The servere ones need to be punished severely, don't get me wrong, but this?
They are harsh but they had to set a deterent to it happening again.

Looting big stores is one thing but...
People were killed.
People lost their homes.
People lost their shops they had worked all their lives for.

People like you and me.

I would give them longer in jail.
Ninfa Larranaga
17.08.2011
Golden Faubert
17.08.2011
imo, yes the 4 years for the rsvp is a tad extreme but as for the bottle of water, is that really ALL they went out looting for?? im not so sure it would be, however
Corey Tronchin
17.08.2011
Oh yes, I agree, those who have actually looted seriously, have hurt people, etc. should be punished more severly than normally. But severly punishing (and basically ruining a life, since job opportunities get diminished once you've been in jail) petty crimes commited during the riots is bringing your society more harm than good (wasted potential, creating criminals).
Janyce Henningson
17.08.2011
Originally Posted by Michielygil
I know these riots were idiotic, but how can one justify a 6 month jailtime for stealing a bottle of water?

The way I see it, for most people it was a 'power of the mob' kinda thing. With a 6 months jailtime you're wasting a potentionally good life forever. How is that contributing to society?

4 years for a facebook RSVP, without even participating to the riots itself... Those punishments are definitely not in perspective.

The servere ones need to be punished severely, don't get me wrong, but this?
They are harsh but they had to set a deterent to it happening again.

Looting big stores is one thing but...
People were killed.
People lost their homes.
People lost their shops they had worked all their lives for.

People like you and me.

I would give them longer in jail.
Corey Tronchin
17.08.2011
I know these riots were idiotic, but how can one justify a 6 month jailtime for stealing a bottle of water?

The way I see it, for most people it was a 'power of the mob' kinda thing. With a 6 months jailtime you're wasting a potentionally good life forever. How is that contributing to society?

4 years for a facebook RSVP, without even participating to the riots itself... Those punishments are definitely not in perspective.

The servere ones need to be punished severely, don't get me wrong, but this?
Lilliana Perris
17.08.2011
So we have had our share of 'riots' this week!

However, here they call them "Demonstrations".

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ryX6X...eature=related

Basically just a large group of people...voicing their disapproval and tossing rubbish everywhere and burning bins.

They then also destroy whatever's in their paths....looting the street vendors (people in the same position they are in....unhappy etc.) without worry.

Mob mentality here is scarey!

In the townships, if they find out that you are a thief or have stolen from someone there and are brazen enough to still hang about in the area....they get a mob together and find the guy....or catch him if they see him by chance.

Someone will start shouting that they have caught a thief and the next thing you know....you got a hundred angry people around....and they SMASH they suspect.

Many times....to death.

It has turned out....that some of the suspects have been innocent before.....but its a problem for the cops to then identify a single killer.

They will maybe arrest 3 or 4 people....but EVERYONE was involved.
Ninfa Larranaga
10.08.2011
Ella Rick
10.08.2011
Heheh

He could of at least picked the premium rice and not the no thrills kind
Ninfa Larranaga
10.08.2011
i believe this guy miss-understood the message from his friends when they said "we're off to rob currys"

Ella Rick
10.08.2011
Scottish riot cops are on their way down.

Be afraid...be very afraid
Ninfa Larranaga
10.08.2011






Random X
10.08.2011
Finally, the squirt-guns are put to use!
Loralee Erban
10.08.2011
they just need it so that people fear the police and army... at the moment over in England no one seems to care about the powers they have, they need something to make them seem more fearful so people that have done nothing wrong feel safe... people that are out robbing people, raping people, murdering, have the chance to be shot dead themselves... it will make it seem a lot safer in theory...
Augustina Zulu
10.08.2011
Originally Posted by sarasin
.....

However, its a double edged sword. If they do get that, they will end up killing more innocents than has already been killed. (shot in the eye with a rubber bullet..point blank...beaten to death.....for protesting!)

So while I can see the REAL cops using this wisely, there are those who will use it as an excuse to be trigger happy.

Your cops are a HELL of a lot better than ours...i can tell you that....but be careful what you wish for!
I wasn't condoning what happens in the U.S. - just stating the fact. Any time you have to turn your military/riot police on your own people is really, really bad for the country. People in the U.S. are still pissed about what happened in Katrina from both sides (police and looters). I imagine the wounds left in London will also be a long time healing.

I well understand feeling taken for granted by your government but fact of the matter is violence never brings about change. You want to look at real revolutionaries? Look at Ghandi, Nelson Mandela, Martin Luther King. Even in recent uprisings in the middle east, it seems the more violent the protests the more push back from the military and the cycle just escalates.
Lilliana Perris
10.08.2011
mmm...That sounds good in theory...but not always in reality.

I live in South Africa....and currently, we have a delema where the cops are wanting the right to use more force as they themselves feel in danger...in these kinds of situations.

However, its a double edged sword. If they do get that, they will end up killing more innocents than has already been killed. (shot in the eye with a rubber bullet..point blank...beaten to death.....for protesting!)

So while I can see the REAL cops using this wisely, there are those who will use it as an excuse to be trigger happy.

Your cops are a HELL of a lot better than ours...i can tell you that....but be careful what you wish for!
Loralee Erban
10.08.2011
Originally Posted by Nick V
If it was the U.S. they would. Remember Katrina? Those folks had a near valid reason for looting and we still sent the military in and started picking em off.
exactly, I know for a fact that my ideas of robbing the local store would go down the drain when I hear everyone is getting shot for robbing and protesting, european governments are way too soft!, arm the cops with guns and Ill feel safer going out at evening ... the amount of stabbings that happen here in Ireland on an almost daily basis is unreal, we need a scaryier police force!
Loralee Erban
10.08.2011
Originally Posted by 3heads
Ever heard of human rights?

Srsly, it's fucked up what's going on in the UK right now and the looters should be punished, but statements like this are completely unacceptable none-the-less!

(Damn, was quite hard to keep this post insult-free)
Theres some loophole somewhere where human rights doesnt count for shit once going against a country/continents laws, Many of them are putting members of the public in danger..the army and police force are put in place to protect everything in said country... including property, people etc... so why not shoot these people dead with warning?? eg make a news, radio, newspaper, speakerphone announcement that looters and rioters will be shot..

im pretty sure once a few drop dead the rest will cop the fuck on?? just an idea like...
Paulette Stolhand
10.08.2011
I can only speak for what I have seen in Manchester but this has NOTHING to do with people rioting because they feel deprived or are angry at government. It is simply bad people realising that in numbers they can win vs the police, its group robbery for personal gain, no agenda other than greed

All imo
Augustina Zulu
10.08.2011
Originally Posted by dj stifffy
touche... its mad whats happend in the uk though, they should just shoot all the rioters and looters, shot gun shells not rubber bullets... why let them live??
If it was the U.S. they would. Remember Katrina? Those folks had a near valid reason for looting and we still sent the military in and started picking em off.
Celestine Porebski
10.08.2011
Originally Posted by dj stifffy
they should just shoot all the rioters and looters, shot gun shells not rubber bullets... why let them live??
Ever heard of human rights?

Srsly, it's fucked up what's going on in the UK right now and the looters should be punished, but statements like this are completely unacceptable none-the-less!

(Damn, was quite hard to keep this post insult-free)
Loralee Erban
10.08.2011
Originally Posted by theory28
yes, but i still remember these things very well
touche... its mad whats happend in the uk though, they should just shoot all the rioters and looters, shot gun shells not rubber bullets... why let them live??

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