What's your opinion on SKRILLEX?

What's your opinion on SKRILLEX?
Posted on: 03.12.2011 by Oliva Propps
I seriously do not understand why he gets so much hate. His production is so fkn tight and he's living the life. Only slight problem I can see anyone may believe is he doesn't do much life, but in my opinion he doesn't need to if his songs are already bangin. He's made dubstep mainstream and it seems to me all the haters are underground kids who take pride in saying "I listened to dubstep before it was cool".
Would love to see everyone's opinion and quote me out if you agree/disagree with anything but say why

This question came up cause I'm doing a musicology report for Year 12 HSC and I chose Skrillex ...found alot of mixed opinions on the internet haha
Cheers
Margie Pavell
03.12.2011
Originally Posted by FaunKeH
fair point, at least skrillex is happy with his life tho

you cant hate on someone JUST cause theyre big.
with your concept, this applies to every great musician in history, thats just stupid
how the fuck do you know skrillex is happy with his life???

i never hated on mr lex...i have no reason to...

you are starting other arguements and accusing me of things i didnt say...

shut down this dumb ass thread like you wanted to Karlos...

we all can't be bothered with this busted ass way of believeing...
Oliva Propps
03.12.2011
Originally Posted by keithace
yeah...the same way i respect new kids on the block and britney spears...
fair point, at least skrillex is happy with his life tho

you cant hate on someone JUST cause theyre big.
with your concept, this applies to every great musician in history, thats just stupid
Chas Giraldez
03.12.2011
Originally Posted by keithace
yeah...the same way respect new kids on the block and britney spears...

make yo money...no one really cares about your place in history...

you sold alot of records <claps> great...

so did Abba...
lol'd so hard just now
Margie Pavell
03.12.2011
Originally Posted by FaunKeH
u still gotta respect skrillex's achievements
yeah...the same way i respect new kids on the block and britney spears...

make yo money...no one really cares about your place in history...

you sold alot of records <claps> great...

so did Abba...
Oliva Propps
03.12.2011
Originally Posted by Miec
Probably, since I see kids blasting Skrillex et cetera from their phones all day...
LOL facepalm*
thanks for ur whole perception bro, wouldnt have experienced it myself cause i have a mad sound system in my room and also im a month off getting my Ps and theres no way i can pump dubstep with my parents in the car
Oliva Propps
03.12.2011
Originally Posted by Garygary1
I consider the original sound something along these lines:
yep definitely original dubstep. but i personally dont like them, seems to be a bunch of droaning heavy dark noises.

dare i say i prefer skrillex because he has more melody and structure/variation in his songs
^inb4 everyone laughs, but hey thats my opinion

BUT i still respect the original stuff for the fact without that, dubstep definitely wouldnt be where it is today. which further backs up my concept that without skrillex, dubstep would also not be where it is today, which i believe whether you hate him or love him, u still gotta respect skrillex's achievements
Debby Ramshur
03.12.2011
This isn't about Skrillex, but one thing I have noticed lately is, that Dubstep loses a lot of its appeal by being played on shitty sound systems.

My experience is that if my friends drag me to one of those mainstream "clubs" where i get to hear Skrillex and some other cheesy Dubstep tunes tend to have below par speakers. My friends don't really care, because they have other things to care about (booze, getting laid... I should probably try this as well) but my experience is spoiled by the fact that I could hear those tunes in better quality at home on my headphones.

I've heard Chase & Status and Nero play at a festival this summer and though I am not exactly a fan of their interpretation of Dubstep or DnB (and i find it is pretty close to what Skrillex is doing) or dubstep in general, I somehow enjoyed the show partly because the sound on an L'Acoustics K1 array was just impressive.

You could argue that this should be true for all kinds of music (Top40 not so much as it is designed for terrible car radios anyway.. ), for Dubstep it removes the most defining part of the music.

I believe it is worth discussing how the quality of a sound system in a club can totally change the perception of music. Generally I see that clubs that cater to "music enthusiasts" within a specific genre invest a lot more in the quality of their sound systems.
Would the average Top40 club goer enjoy their evening more if the clubs had better speakers? Or do they actually like it more without proper bass? Probably, since I see kids blasting Skrillex et cetera from their phones all day...

And for Srillex, I'd like to stick to a quote by John Mendez: "So there's no excuse, I believe, to listen to shitty music
Chas Giraldez
03.12.2011
I consider the original sound something along these lines:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4AN-P...eature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RMaVq-_Ta-w

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rNStVlJWy88

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=miF4L...eature=related
Oliva Propps
03.12.2011
Originally Posted by oliosky
Get. Out.
lol this whole thread is about having your own opinion, care to share your thoughts?
Roseline Canright
03.12.2011
"let's move along people. Nothing to see here, keep it moving."

Freddie Henrichs
03.12.2011
I dont care for his music, but it doesnt matter, just not my thing.
Johnetta Olewine
03.12.2011
Originally Posted by FaunKeH
i am really intrigued to see some examples of what you believe is original dubstep? hit us up with some youtube links

the first thing i ever read on dubstep a couple of years ago when i typed into a community "good dubstep songs", i found a whole community of 100s of links of heavy old industrial poop being flung through my speakers, but apparently thats the original dubstep
Get. Out.
Oliva Propps
03.12.2011
Originally Posted by BlackJesus
This thread should get at least 7 pages
+7 to you, mr psychic powers :eek:
Oliva Propps
03.12.2011
Originally Posted by Garygary1
I believe you misread me :P. The point is, if its not that chilled out and melancholy sound like the original stuff, is it REALLY still dubstep? I don't believe so, because the only thing that remains of the original sound is the time signature. Otherwise, its a completely different animal.
i am really intrigued to see some examples of what you believe is original dubstep? hit us up with some youtube links

the first thing i ever read on dubstep a couple of years ago when i typed into a community "good dubstep songs", i found a whole community of 100s of links of heavy old industrial poop being flung through my speakers, but apparently thats the original dubstep
Oliva Propps
03.12.2011
Originally Posted by Shane Says
Obviously not dubstep? To me it sounds like tearout dubstep. He didn't invent it but he definately helped bring it into the spotlight.

Truth is not all dubstep is chill. Also not all Dub is chilled either. But going back to dubstep, listen to Coki's Spongebob. As far as I can tell this is one of the first dubstep tunes that brought that rough tearout sound to dubstep.

http://youtu.be/JsVGtknK59Y

This tearout style has gotten harder as it has "evolved" but that's pretty natural as things change, especially in US and CA.
+50 to you kind sir
if anything, dubstep these days is 'more chill' (it mindfks me to say that but u get my point haha). old underground stuff is so much harsher ^link there to a song called 'spongebob', yeah cause thats a great name for that song lawl
Oliva Propps
03.12.2011
Originally Posted by Alex Wild
^^^
This is what I was believeing too, I just don't see it as dubstep at all. Also, to the OP [I believe] stating that he can do 'every genre' because he makes 'dubstep', electro, and [this hurts me to type it] complextro, SERIOUSLY those are all really similar and he makes them in a very similar way.
nah i was saying he just has a wide range of variety in EDM. any producer is open to any genre they want, but it takes skill to produce quality in all areas like him.
Oliva Propps
03.12.2011
Originally Posted by keithace
the OP turned this into "i am going to defend dubstep and skrillex" thread...

you just want everyone to agree with YOU...when they don't...you play captain save a ho and come running to the defense of skrillex...
id seriously love anyone to take a stab at me if theyve got something to back it up. if youve realised i havent replied to anyone saying anything negative but has some decent evidence behind their answer, because im open to their opinion

outb4wk
Oliva Propps
03.12.2011
Originally Posted by decon
Its the sound. i dont care about genre.
which is why i said his sound production is tight and unique hehe
Oliva Propps
03.12.2011
Originally Posted by synthet1c
ahh, have you heard of fidgit, that is all lfo, and around before skrillex, you nave a skewed perception because, that was probably your first introduction, be assured skrillex didn't invent anything, he used a formula of dubstep, but introduced bright bell synths and autotuned vocals
ill give you that one my perception is possibly baised because without skrillex i probably would still be bangin some classic rock tunes and never even heard of dubstep haha.

of course i know skrillex didnt invent dubstep, its been underground for decades now, but the fact that whatever he did got dubstep out there to everyone and that is a pretty massive achievement in my book
Christel Croak
03.12.2011
Originally Posted by Garygary1
I believe you misread me :P. The point is, if its not that chilled out and melancholy sound like the original stuff, is it REALLY still dubstep? I don't believe so, because the only thing that remains of the original sound is the time signature. Otherwise, its a completely different animal.
Ya, what you say makes a lot of sense, and i agree with it, but I believe there is a lot of difference among people at what point the music transitions from old school dub to the stuff being produced. I believe different people have a different threshold as to where it is no longer dub.

For example, Noisia- Tommy's Theme. This track "is" dubstep according to Beatport, but I've gotten different opinions on the genre, since there isn't a traditional wobble sound. What do you believe?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_dJHP0brCnI
Chas Giraldez
03.12.2011
Originally Posted by Shane Says
Truth is not all dubstep is chill. Also not all Dub is chilled either. But going back to dubstep, listen to Coki's Spongebob. As far as I can tell this is one of the first dubstep tunes that brought that rough tearout sound to dubstep.
I believe you misread me :P. The point is, if its not that chilled out and melancholy sound like the original stuff, is it REALLY still dubstep? I don't believe so, because the only thing that remains of the original sound is the time signature. Otherwise, its a completely different animal.
Salvatore Husley
03.12.2011
Originally Posted by Garygary1
My problem is that people call Skrillex's music dubstep... when its obviously not. The only way it resembles dubstep these days is that its produced at 140 bpm, but sounds like 70. Otherwise, its just rave electro tbh.

Wheres the "dub" in his sound? "Dub" is meant to imply a chilled out moody feel and the "step" I would assume meaning its definitive beat structure, if it actually holds that much meaning .

Calling skrillexs music dubstep would be like saying the screaming kid in the supermarket calm and serene.
Obviously not dubstep? To me it sounds like tearout dubstep. He didn't invent it but he definately helped bring it into the spotlight.

Truth is not all dubstep is chill. Also not all Dub is chilled either. But going back to dubstep, listen to Coki's Spongebob. As far as I can tell this is one of the first dubstep tunes that brought that rough tearout sound to dubstep.

http://youtu.be/JsVGtknK59Y

This tearout style has gotten harder as it has "evolved" but that's pretty natural as things change, especially in US and CA.

Back to the OP. I don't like Skrillex. I don't like tearout dubstep. It's too much noise for me to actually enjoy. I'm not sure why people care that there are others that don't like him. It's the internet and most people can't be civilized with the way they express their feelings, but then again who cares about those dicks.

Anyone in the spotlight is going to have people who don't like them. Not everyone can have a high level of respect like Daft Punk per se. And maybe there is a reason for that.
Romelia Stankard
03.12.2011
Originally Posted by Garygary1
My problem is that people call Skrillex's music dubstep... when its obviously not. The only way it resembles dubstep these days is that its produced at 140 bpm, but sounds like 70. Otherwise, its just rave electro tbh.

Wheres the "dub" in his sound? "Dub" is meant to imply a chilled out moody feel and the "step" I would assume meaning its definitive beat structure, if it actually holds that much meaning .

Calling skrillexs music dubstep would be like saying the screaming kid in the supermarket calm and serene.
Does skrillex even call his music dubstep?
Lucrecia Diloreto
03.12.2011
I really enjoy Skrillex's music, the way he presents himself on stage and his shows overall. I listen to all kinds of EDM, i have my fave genres but i really do just listen and play just about everything that is EDM. I don't like what came with Skrillex getting popular however. the amount of hipsters and posers coming out just because it [dubstep] is getting popular just sickens me.
Kesha Orde
03.12.2011
^^^
This is what I was believeing too, I just don't see it as dubstep at all. Also, to the OP [I believe] stating that he can do 'every genre' because he makes 'dubstep', electro, and [this hurts me to type it] complextro, SERIOUSLY those are all really similar and he makes them in a very similar way.
Chas Giraldez
03.12.2011
My problem is that people call Skrillex's music dubstep... when its obviously not. The only way it resembles dubstep these days is that its produced at 140 bpm, but sounds like 70. Otherwise, its just rave electro tbh.

Wheres the "dub" in his sound? "Dub" is meant to imply a chilled out moody feel and the "step" I would assume meaning its definitive beat structure, if it actually holds that much meaning .

Calling skrillexs music dubstep would be like saying the screaming kid in the supermarket calm and serene.
Margie Pavell
03.12.2011
Originally Posted by Alex Wild
I'm not fully clear on what your report is about? Do people like Skrillex? Why do people like/dislike Skrillex?

I personally really enjoyed Scary Monsters and Nice Sprites the first time I heard it, but I feel that he pretty much laid all his cards out with that one tune. I havn't heard anything since that was radically different, or evolved. I'm really trying hard not to say "It all sounds the same".

I also don't feel much of a connection to the typical crowd that are into his stuff, perhaps I would of when I was 17-18.

And finally, let's be honest, he looks like a complete 'tard.
lol
Margie Pavell
03.12.2011
the OP turned this into "i am going to defend dubstep and skrillex" thread...

you just want everyone to agree with YOU...when they don't...you play captain save a ho and come running to the defense of skrillex...
Khadijah Wojtach
03.12.2011
Originally Posted by FaunKeH
i would actually say skrillex has the most variety in all his tracks in any electro producer. jeez he hits almost every genre (dubstep, electro house, complextro, moom, metal) and collabs and remixes tracks, giving them all unique sounds. how much more variety can ya want? :P

his sound production is so tight and unique, no one can even replicate his sound (although people are almost getting there, still flawless).
Its the sound. i dont care about genre.
Leeanna Ayla
03.12.2011
He's making a living and having fun at the same time, that I like.
Jonathan Chiuchiolo
03.12.2011
ahh, have you heard of fidgit, that is all lfo, and around before skrillex, you nave a skewed perception because, that was probably your first introduction, be assured skrillex didn't invent anything, he used a formula of dubstep, but introduced bright bell synths and autotuned vocals, John B did the exact same thing with DnB a few years ago he just didn't become mainstream, he probably tried but the world wasn't ready for broken beats...

Sure Skrillex has his own individual slant on the sound, however, it is so individual it all sounds the same, cause he uses the same sound formula, just changing the patterns the sounds are played.
Oliva Propps
03.12.2011
Originally Posted by decon
I like some of his tracks, but as with much eletro house inspired "dubstep" (brostep, whatever you want to call it), it pretty much sounds the same. I feel like I've heard all of what Skrillex has to offer after hearing Syndicate, Ruffneck Bass, Nice Sprits and Monster and Cinema Remix. Hopefully future will prove me wrong, but I doubt it.
i would actually say skrillex has the most variety in all his tracks in any electro producer. jeez he hits almost every genre (dubstep, electro house, complextro, moom, metal) and collabs and remixes tracks, giving them all unique sounds. how much more variety can ya want? :P

his sound production is so tight and unique, no one can even replicate his sound (although people are almost getting there, still flawless).
Francie Gindin
03.12.2011
Bankable, trendy, and headlining from a pragmatic perspective.

May he enjoy his moment in the sun...
Oliva Propps
03.12.2011
Originally Posted by DJ CARNIV AL
Its EPIC

They crowd werent expecting it i dont believe, mostly young girls near the stage, and they nearly dropped him! hahaha
LMAO ive only seen a couple of vids of him diving, he must do it more often than i expected XD
some people may view it as him being up himself, but i see it as him enjoying life as much as he can +1 to you sonny
Oliva Propps
03.12.2011
not gunna claim that scary monsters is the best dubstep track ever made; but its pretty damn amazing the fact it spread dubstep around the world, in which other current electro artists and new musicians have approached the scene and made crazy mutha tracks which blow the fuak out of everyones minds

but that means without skrillex... the electro scene wouldnt be influenced by dubstep as we see it today.
also it makes me lol when i see people comment on things like new kill the noise videos saying "skrillex is gay"... dumb fecks; kill the noise is signed to OWSLA, aka, skrillex's label, hahahaha
Valeri Babiak
03.12.2011
Originally Posted by FaunKeH
+1 to you kind sir
but yeah he is more of a producer, so he doesnt really want to do much live
i saw recently someone said his formula is: "trigger finger + smoke + stagedive = win" bahahaha genious
Its EPIC

They crowd werent expecting it i dont believe, mostly young girls near the stage, and they nearly dropped him! hahaha
Oliva Propps
03.12.2011
Originally Posted by AndrewFuse
I just don't listen to dubstep, and when i hear it somewhere i even don't care who is the artist e.t.c.

Thats why i don't care about skrillex

Peace
csb, your information is truely amazing! do tell it again
Oliva Propps
03.12.2011
Originally Posted by KennyFiesta
-Scary Sprites or whatever it's called
*scary monsters and nice sprites
...its only the biggest dubstep song with over 50 mill views and is the track that pretty much made dubstep a known genre worldwide
Oliva Propps
03.12.2011
Originally Posted by DJ CARNIV AL
I saw him at Rockcity in Nottingham on Wednesday evening , totally blew the fooking roof off!!! I dont believe his work is the most technical or artistic in the world by far but it still rocks bodies on the dance floor and at the end of the day isnt that why we do it!! If people enjoy our music then great for them. If you dont like it dont go to his gigs!

I believe by making dubstep commercial like this it'll lead new ears that may not of heard these sounds to the more underground music and increase that fan base.

My one gripe... he didnt even have a pair of cans! His set was blatantly pre recorded and he knob twiddled the whole thing (very good knob twiddling!). Would of at least liked to see him pretend to mix!! haha
+1 to you kind sir
but yeah he is more of a producer, so he doesnt really want to do much live
i saw recently someone said his formula is: "trigger finger + smoke + stagedive = win" bahahaha genious
Marshall Aby
03.12.2011
Originally Posted by dafe
Some people see the creativity, passion and intelligence that goes into a production, some people don't. I'm in the latter category when it comes to Skrillex.
I can appreciate the technical skills and bombast that goes into the production. And some of the hooks are catchy. I just don't share the same 'aesthetic' as Skrillex. He may know how to construct his sound, I just don't much care for the sound he constructs. I may have felt differently when I was younger.

So I've basically got him lumped in with all the other popular artists I don't care about. As for 'ruining' dubstep or electro; no one person can 'ruin' a scene. Music finds it's own audience. If brostep wasn't popular it wouldn't sell. I've long ago ceased to be amazed by large groups of people liking inferior forms or examples of music (see the top40). And I'm just left with 'meh'.

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