Drugs and Music. Is it everywhere?

Drugs and Music. Is it everywhere?
Posted on: 10.12.2011 by Milda Poucher
Hi people,

First I hope this discussion doesn't break the rules but I really want to ask a wide audience this.

Now I want to put this straight out there as I am going to come off a little biased as it is. I have never tried any drugs other than marijuana and that was once. It wasn't for me as I'm naturally a bubbly and fun person and it just made me bored and lazy. So other than that I have never tried a cigarette or anything else. My reason being is I don't like not being in complete control. I also don't drink enough to get drunk because of this. It's not like I have ever had a bad experience but it's just not me.

However I don't judge people that do any of these things. It's your life and you live it how you want so long as you are aware of any consequences that come with it and it doesn't effect me in anyway. I have friends that do MDMA and they know that if they are having a evening out with me then I don't want them doing it as that's not the person I want them to be when I am out wanting to have a good time with them.

Now to the point...

A year ago I started a music course at a music specific establishment. I love it and I'm hoping to stay on another 2 years to do ta Fda in Music & Sound Technology. When I first started it was quite a mixed group of people from different backgrounds and ages. They all smoked and while the older ones joked about the drugs they did when they were younger there was no talk of taking any now.

I'm in my second year now and switched groups to better suit me for travel reasons. There are 16 people in the group and the average age is probably about 19. The youngest being 17. They all smoke. I am the only one that doesn't. So it's a bit gutting that everyone goes for a smoke break and I kind of don't fit in with that social aspect of chatting away. That's my problem though.

But when I do chat they are all talking about ketamine, MDMA, Acid. I could go on but I don't actually know the names or have a clue when it comes to drugs so I won't embarrass myself. Some of them are DJs or just clubbers. I get that some people would do it but it seems like the whole class. Is it becoming more of a normal thing now? Has it always? I'm only 23 and I'm not a party animal so it might be something that has been oblivious to me.

I'm not asking for you to say you partake in them but more your views on the scene and drugs. I would just like a little insight into it.

tl;dr: Lots of people do drugs in the music scene. What's your take on it?
Inez Marcinik
12.12.2011
Originally Posted by Machete
Like i say many times before I do smoke weed everytime I start mixing in my room i start smoking if im sitting editing some loops or tracks I'm smoking too if I'mm watching a movie at 2 am in the morninng I surely have 3 fat joints laying beside me in my bed
I get use to weed ALOT i smoke it everyday and never act stupid anywhere anyhow im a waiter too NEVER had a problem in my job even y smoke before i start

I have use lsd coke mdma 2cb dextro many stuff from the past years
Everything is garbage exept for weed

Weed focus me rather than slow me down.
I get use to weed ALOT i smoke it everyday and never act stupid anywhere
you sure about that mate?
Ladonna Schlender
12.12.2011
Originally Posted by U-31
Some of the sounds and samples in EDM music, you cannot begin describe what they do your mind, when you are on one, with a like minded group of mates in the same states... Euphoria?....No where near, mate, times it by a million. Then some.
The best thing is, you can hear that same choon or effect stone cold sober and your body remembers.. Rush up the spine, the hair on the back of your neck stands up, the hairs on your arms stand up.
There is no way of describing this feeling to someone who hasnt experienced it, and do the description any justice.
Yeah it sounds GREAT when your straight, but the guy off his face next to you is getting the sound hardwired directly in to his brain.

I aint advocating drug use here, i couldn't give a shit either way, i know someone straight and booze free could be having a good a time out there as me, just return the favour though and dont judge me when im on the dancefloor shakin' me cakes.

Also when its my turn to drive i've been sober as a judge and rocked just as hard as my mates, all off their heads...
Doesn't that last line contradict everything else you said in your post?
Noble Check
12.12.2011
Originally Posted by U-31
I dunno about mixing better, but id agree 100% on the music sounding better.

An aside, as per being out of control on weekend recreational pharmaceuticals, i've been far more twisted, wrecked, out of control and lapses of memory when taking a particularly nasty drug that evil drug dealers sell in pint glasses, perfectly legitimately, with the government making a revenue by taxation of the sale...
This has been my experience and that of my mates as well. It's ironic really...
Nella Libin
11.12.2011
Originally Posted by Itchy Gash
From being into dance music for the past 20years...from that first all evening rave to last weekend's clubbing experience...drugs ARE everywhere..which sometimes ruins the evening for me.

Seeing folks crawling up the wall's or in puddles on the floor (relatively speaking) from that moment , it really gets to me and I start noticing that pretty much the majority are ahem "off their tits", but for the split second I feel "your missing out on what said dj is dropping (music wise) or tequnique they doing as your eyes are spinning faster than the bpm...

Some moderator input on this would be interesting, what are your thoughts on the fact at least 50% percent of the audience at shows,gigs,club evening s are "on one"? That they're not gonna remember what latest track you played or that trick you performed?
What a load of total bollocks, no matter how off my face ive been, for the last 20 years i've been able to Id tunes, if not from knowledge or memory, then from going home and finding out by researching the samples used or whatever... There aint been many that got past me...and trust me, 20 year ago around here a lot of the big name DJ's protected their "Magic Bullet / Secret Weapon " choons & stuck masking tape with "Fuck Off" wrote on, over the artist and track info, so ya couldn't just Id from sticking your head in to the booth.
Audrey Pinda
11.12.2011
Originally Posted by rgtb
here, drinking has become much more commonplace in the clubs. 10, 15 years ago, many ppl would drink no more than a beer or two (or maybe a short here and there) and perhaps some more to help come down.

nowadays, there are many ppl that drink a lot. at the same time, the drugs consumed have changed as well. x and acid have become comparatively less popular, whereas speed and, particularly, coke have gotten more popular.

it seems to me that in the old days, everybody was peaceful whether sober or intoxicated. while i still feel that most today are cool and peaceful, i see aggressive behavior more often, especially during after parties.
That's the reverse of shows here in America, from what I know. I mean, there's always the peaceful bit with raves and the like, but there is still a HUGE scene for Hip-Hop and Rock which just fuels itself on coke/alcohol. It's a totally different vibe.

Lately, it seems people over here are (thankfully IMO) moving away from heavy alcohol use into other things.

I don't mind alcohol. Hell, I love getting a few drinks over the course of a evening . But it makes people STUPID and a lot of people angry. It's not a good substance, no matter if it's legal or not. I'd much prefer other things to be regulated and used more, and give everything a better vibe. Alcohol, while I enjoy it, is probably one of the messiest drugs you can consume heavily.
Tesha Freudenstein
11.12.2011
Originally Posted by Calum
IMO

Theres a lot more courtesy at events where people are on drugs i find.
(and i dont mean everyone's just on a complete love buzz)

the alcohol crowd are much more aggressive (and see much less of the show)
the worst are drinking people who smoke. they're outside every 5 minutes to smoke missing half of the show.
Neva Sparacino
12.12.2011
Im sure about that vato
I'm working in my english is that what you'r saying.
Inez Marcinik
12.12.2011
Originally Posted by Machete
Like i say many times before I do smoke weed everytime I start mixing in my room i start smoking if im sitting editing some loops or tracks I'm smoking too if I'mm watching a movie at 2 am in the morninng I surely have 3 fat joints laying beside me in my bed
I get use to weed ALOT i smoke it everyday and never act stupid anywhere anyhow im a waiter too NEVER had a problem in my job even y smoke before i start

I have use lsd coke mdma 2cb dextro many stuff from the past years
Everything is garbage exept for weed

Weed focus me rather than slow me down.
I get use to weed ALOT i smoke it everyday and never act stupid anywhere
you sure about that mate?
Neva Sparacino
12.12.2011
Like i say many times before I do smoke weed everytime I start mixing in my room i start smoking if im sitting editing some loops or tracks I'm smoking too if I'mm watching a movie at 2 am in the morninng I surely have 3 fat joints laying beside me in my bed
I get use to weed ALOT i smoke it everyday and never act stupid anywhere anyhow im a waiter too NEVER had a problem in my job even y smoke before i start

I have use lsd coke mdma 2cb dextro many stuff from the past years
Everything is garbage exept for weed

Weed focus me rather than slow me down.
Nella Libin
12.12.2011
No.. since when do you need to be on drugs to dance?
Despite the myths it ain't amphetamines that keep you dancing all evening s, its you.
The drugs (Including alcohol) just take away your inhibitions... assuming you have any in the first place.

I've tried riding the mountain bike on amphetamines or cocaine, when there has been a big ride organised and im tired or whatever, and trust me it actually impairs my athletic performance. Slows me down, i need more rest stops and more carbohydrate then normal

But i would be aware that the lads n girls will be having a different experience musically to me when im sober.. the "Drug memory effect" isnt as strong as the drugs themself, so while tune will come on i have before while on drugs, ill still get "rushes", but it wont be as intense as everyone else
Ladonna Schlender
12.12.2011
Originally Posted by U-31
Some of the sounds and samples in EDM music, you cannot begin describe what they do your mind, when you are on one, with a like minded group of mates in the same states... Euphoria?....No where near, mate, times it by a million. Then some.
The best thing is, you can hear that same choon or effect stone cold sober and your body remembers.. Rush up the spine, the hair on the back of your neck stands up, the hairs on your arms stand up.
There is no way of describing this feeling to someone who hasnt experienced it, and do the description any justice.
Yeah it sounds GREAT when your straight, but the guy off his face next to you is getting the sound hardwired directly in to his brain.

I aint advocating drug use here, i couldn't give a shit either way, i know someone straight and booze free could be having a good a time out there as me, just return the favour though and dont judge me when im on the dancefloor shakin' me cakes.

Also when its my turn to drive i've been sober as a judge and rocked just as hard as my mates, all off their heads...
Doesn't that last line contradict everything else you said in your post?
Nella Libin
12.12.2011
Some of the sounds and samples in EDM music, you cannot begin describe what they do your mind, when you are on one, with a like minded group of mates in the same states... Euphoria?....No where near, mate, times it by a million. Then some.
The best thing is, you can hear that same choon or effect stone cold sober and your body remembers.. Rush up the spine, the hair on the back of your neck stands up, the hairs on your arms stand up.
There is no way of describing this feeling to someone who hasnt experienced it, and do the description any justice.
Yeah it sounds GREAT when your straight, but the guy off his face next to you is getting the sound hardwired directly in to his brain.

I aint advocating drug use here, i couldn't give a shit either way, i know someone straight and booze free could be having a good a time out there as me, just return the favour though and dont judge me when im on the dancefloor shakin' me cakes.
Also when its my turn to drive i've been sober as a judge and rocked just as hard as my mates, all off their heads...
Noble Check
12.12.2011
Originally Posted by U-31
I dunno about mixing better, but id agree 100% on the music sounding better.

An aside, as per being out of control on weekend recreational pharmaceuticals, i've been far more twisted, wrecked, out of control and lapses of memory when taking a particularly nasty drug that evil drug dealers sell in pint glasses, perfectly legitimately, with the government making a revenue by taxation of the sale...
This has been my experience and that of my mates as well. It's ironic really...
Nella Libin
11.12.2011
I dunno about mixing better, but id agree 100% on the music sounding better.

An aside, as per being out of control on weekend recreational pharmaceuticals, i've been far more twisted, wrecked, out of control and lapses of memory when taking a particularly nasty drug that evil drug dealers sell in pint glasses, perfectly legitimately, with the government making a revenue by taxation of the sale...
Janyce Henningson
11.12.2011
You deffo mix better after a few lines / pills
And the music sounds sooo much better

Don't care what anyone says... tis true
Nella Libin
11.12.2011
Originally Posted by Itchy Gash
From being into dance music for the past 20years...from that first all evening rave to last weekend's clubbing experience...drugs ARE everywhere..which sometimes ruins the evening for me.

Seeing folks crawling up the wall's or in puddles on the floor (relatively speaking) from that moment , it really gets to me and I start noticing that pretty much the majority are ahem "off their tits", but for the split second I feel "your missing out on what said dj is dropping (music wise) or tequnique they doing as your eyes are spinning faster than the bpm...

Some moderator input on this would be interesting, what are your thoughts on the fact at least 50% percent of the audience at shows,gigs,club evening s are "on one"? That they're not gonna remember what latest track you played or that trick you performed?
What a load of total bollocks, no matter how off my face ive been, for the last 20 years i've been able to Id tunes, if not from knowledge or memory, then from going home and finding out by researching the samples used or whatever... There aint been many that got past me...and trust me, 20 year ago around here a lot of the big name DJ's protected their "Magic Bullet / Secret Weapon " choons & stuck masking tape with "Fuck Off" wrote on, over the artist and track info, so ya couldn't just Id from sticking your head in to the booth.
Joie Cantillon
11.12.2011
I didn't read the thread, but for what it's worth on occasion I have to drive my employees out to location (anywhere from 30 minutes to multiple hours) sometimes I let them smoke a bit on the way, they seem to like edm a bit more when they are high...
Kimberely Riccobene
11.12.2011
Alcohol = Poisen
Audrey Pinda
11.12.2011
Originally Posted by rgtb
here, drinking has become much more commonplace in the clubs. 10, 15 years ago, many ppl would drink no more than a beer or two (or maybe a short here and there) and perhaps some more to help come down.

nowadays, there are many ppl that drink a lot. at the same time, the drugs consumed have changed as well. x and acid have become comparatively less popular, whereas speed and, particularly, coke have gotten more popular.

it seems to me that in the old days, everybody was peaceful whether sober or intoxicated. while i still feel that most today are cool and peaceful, i see aggressive behavior more often, especially during after parties.
That's the reverse of shows here in America, from what I know. I mean, there's always the peaceful bit with raves and the like, but there is still a HUGE scene for Hip-Hop and Rock which just fuels itself on coke/alcohol. It's a totally different vibe.

Lately, it seems people over here are (thankfully IMO) moving away from heavy alcohol use into other things.

I don't mind alcohol. Hell, I love getting a few drinks over the course of a evening . But it makes people STUPID and a lot of people angry. It's not a good substance, no matter if it's legal or not. I'd much prefer other things to be regulated and used more, and give everything a better vibe. Alcohol, while I enjoy it, is probably one of the messiest drugs you can consume heavily.
Tesha Freudenstein
11.12.2011
Originally Posted by Calum
IMO

Theres a lot more courtesy at events where people are on drugs i find.
(and i dont mean everyone's just on a complete love buzz)

the alcohol crowd are much more aggressive (and see much less of the show)
the worst are drinking people who smoke. they're outside every 5 minutes to smoke missing half of the show.
Denyse Waterland
11.12.2011
IMO

Theres a lot more courtesy at events where people are on drugs i find.
(and i dont mean everyone's just on a complete love buzz)

the alcohol crowd are much more aggressive (and see much less of the show)
Tesha Freudenstein
11.12.2011
Originally Posted by Dj_4-$hure
Marijuana is not a drug.
A drug, broadly speaking, is any substance that, when absorbed into the body of a living organism, alters normal bodily function.
sorry to disappoint
Latoria Kavulich
11.12.2011
as long as this discussion remains objective i dont see why it needs to be closed.
Ninfa Larranaga
11.12.2011
Originally Posted by Nicky H
Yes it does break the rules

ibtl / ibtf
haha iatf!
Nedra Fresneda
11.12.2011
not everywhere http://www.yogarave.org/
Latoria Kavulich
11.12.2011
better vibes than the aggro redneck alcohol crowd.
Tommie Siefkes
10.12.2011
From being into dance music for the past 20years...from that first all evening rave to last weekend's clubbing experience...drugs ARE everywhere..which sometimes ruins the evening for me.

Seeing folks crawling up the wall's or in puddles on the floor (relatively speaking) from that moment , it really gets to me and I start noticing that pretty much the majority are ahem "off their tits", but for the split second I feel "your missing out on what said dj is dropping (music wise) or tequnique they doing as your eyes are spinning faster than the bpm...

Some moderator input on this would be interesting, what are your thoughts on the fact at least 50% percent of the audience at shows,gigs,club evening s are "on one"? That they're not gonna remember what latest track you played or that trick you performed?
Belle Tufnell
10.12.2011
Marijuana is not a drug. Also it lets me get deep into music, analyze it and be able to appreciate it on a whole new level. I'm sure many people know what i'm talking about. Plus I have a prescription.
Belen Wermes
10.12.2011
it's a good combo. why wouldn't it be everywhere
Roselee Jasnoch
10.12.2011
I'm sure I read somewhere recently the UK takes the most mdma in europe actually.
Milda Poucher
10.12.2011


Guess it's not just music lol
Eulah Klemz
10.12.2011
I have been a DJ and sound guy for 30 years. toevening I am bringing 6 18" subs and associated tops for a small EDM evening . there will be an abundance of drugs.
I have smoked pot, but very very little in the last 30 years. less than once a year since I turned 20. I drink alcohol, but usually only on weekends, and not every weekend. I tried nitrous oxide a couple times. I have not tried any other recreational drugs. none. ever. I do not pretend to. I say "no thanks" if offered. I do not need to explain myself, and I usually do not. if they question me, I tell them I am not a cop, I just dont do it. if they have a problem with it, they can leave. if they try to convince me to try something, and it is an event I am working I will probably have them thrown out. they can do what they choose, and so can I.
I have watched lots of DJ's and sound guys fail from drug and alcohol use. it has been one of my biggest helps in my career to have others do drugs.
I also never report or turn anyone in for drugs unless they are forcing them on someone, slipping it in drinks, etc.
Clay Lorow
10.12.2011
I don't do drugs, never even tried marihuana, and I never will. I do smoke, but try to keep it at around 5 cigarets a day. And about drinking...
Serbia was always about 10 years behind rest of the world. Having that in mind, it really isn't that hard to get any kind of drugs, but suprisingly, not many people do drugs. On the other hand we do drink a lot!
And about the connection between drugs and electronic music, as Ean Golden said in the Message for Mom & Dad: 4 Reasons Why I Want To Be a Controllerist, dj's are modern guitarists...Drugs took their swing along with popularity of r&r and rock...
Reginia Tramble
10.12.2011
Fun is fun, it's all the stuff in between that gets people worked up.
Roselee Jasnoch
10.12.2011
I actually lost my ID a few months ago and was shocked at how easy it was to buy drugs compared to buying booze.
Ladonna Schlender
10.12.2011
I've been in the DJ'ing game since 1977.

I don't drink alcohol and I don't do drugs.

I do however smoke miniature cigars and can honestly say that at the age of 50, starting smoking back when I was 18 is the only regret I've had in my life.

I've always said that at the end of my life I don't want to look back and believe "I wish".

Smoking is the one and only thing that "I wish" I hadn't started.

So much so that I'm quitting for good starting 1st January 2012.

Like others have said before me, if people don't accept you for who and what you are then they are not worth your time and effort.
Milda Poucher
10.12.2011
Originally Posted by selbekk
MDMA is too extreme for me.

Drugs are not exclusive to the music scene. But party drugs are more prevalent here. Perhaps you're just meeting people from a different culture for the first time - don't take it as a shock that they do other stuff than you do

Great post by the way
Cheers dude.

I don't believe I'm saying it's because they are illegal. I guess I feel that when I'm dancing in a club and having a good time and doing it sober that when I have mates that say "I don't know how you manage to do it man", or ones that HAVE to take something on a evening out. I find it a little sad. But of course I know no different. I'm a person who doesn't care what people believe. So if my dancing is stupid or something I honestly don't care.

I went to Westfest last year. I have never been to a rave evening like it before as I'm more of a Download person lol. But my friends were freaking out about getting searched. Then I'm believeing great they might get caught and refused entry then I have wasted money on a ticket. Then when I do get in and get to one of the stages within 5 minutes I have people coming up to me asking if I'm selling or buying. This happened throughout the evening and it did start to wizz me off after a while.

Trying to keep it to the music side though. I was believeing that what if I wanted to collaborate with someone. What if they had to be on something while working. I don't believe I could do that. What is that someone was... I don't know... Daft Punk. I believe I would be pretty bummed out. I don't even know why I would.
Dulce Plimpton
10.12.2011
MDMA is too extreme for me.

Drugs are not exclusive to the music scene. But party drugs are more prevalent here. Perhaps you're just meeting people from a different culture for the first time - don't take it as a shock that they do other stuff than you do

Great post by the way
Audrey Pinda
10.12.2011
Drugs are everywhere. It's an honest fact that because of laws, is pushed underground by the establishment. While it's not an issue that ever wants to be recognized, HUMAN SOCIETY ITSELF was founded on the basis of making booze. It's not going anywhere, the war on drugs is only pushing the money into the hands of corrupt individuals outside of the law, and people are still doing what they've always been doing, fucking themselves up.

Last evening I went to a show. Albeit, the turnout was almost nothing, but I really wanted to see the DJ/Producer spin (Calvertron). Within a minute of the show, I had access to drugs. It was and is easier than going to the bar and buying a drink, although more expensive.
nayit ruiz jaramillo
10.12.2011
Originally Posted by smittten
mildly successful with the ladies
This is not the place to talk about your previous love life.



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