S4 - Traktor Pro 2 - Scamo's Effect Jogs Extreme [Version 4.4 Beta]
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S4 - Traktor Pro 2 - Scamo's Effect Jogs Extreme [Version 4.4 Beta] Posted on: 16.01.2012 by Rey Holubar Hi everyone,As promised, here is the next release of my (well our) mapping. I say "our", because I was so brash and have taken modes 5-7 from Alinements "rework" of the mapping and have used them to some degree to fill in the empty modes 5-7. Thanks goes to Alinement for coming up with the additional modes. Because this mapping has so many changes and I've not tested it as much as I'd like to, I am calling it a beta. So use at your own risk in a performance. If you are new to this mapping, there is a manual in the download zip file explaining how to use it. Also please read up in these threads, if you want to know how the mapping evolved. http://www.djranking s.com/community /showthread.php?t=39910 http://www.djranking s.com/community /showthread.php?t=40818 http://www.djranking s.com/community /showthread.php?t=43115 http://www.djranking s.com/community /showthread.php?t=43743 What's new in this mapping? 1. The filter is taken out of mode 4. 2. The T-3 delay has been replaced with just the delay effect in modes 1 and 2. (I am still not sure just the delay is right for mode 1.) 3. Added Alinement's modes 5-7. Here is how he explains them.
Mode 5 - I have added the Flangerflux/FilterPulse/Reverb from Ean's map (Chained FX mode 3). but I have replaced the reverb in the chained effects with a delay T3 that is activated only by FX Button 3 (as its best added in after the original effect takes shape). The Reverb from the original has been placed into the Advanced effect slot in Unit 3 (or 4) and is controlled by the Jog Wheel (along with the Flangerflux and Filterpulse)
Mode 6 - I have added the Beatmasher/LoFi/Filter92LFO (also from DJTT S4 mapping chained FX mode 1) Mode 7 - I have made this control just to control the Advanced effect slot in Unit 3 (or 4) for the BeatSlicer as to the exact specifications of Eans Mapping in DJTT Advanced FX Mode 1. So, that is it. Enjoy and have fun. Any feedback on issues or suggestions is very welcome! scamo Copyright and Usage Anyone can use this mapping free of charge for their own personal or professional use. It MAY NOT be uploaded to any other web site for download or passed on to third parties in its original or modified form without my authorization. | |
| Leisha Vanderwege 15.03.2012 | Thank you Scamo. I am not worthy!! BTW what part of the world are you in? |
| Rey Holubar 15.03.2012 | You can run multiple mappings with Traktor no problem. You just have to make "one" the "main" mapping (importing twice with the big import button) and import the other "devices" via the Controller Manager. I actually had multiple mappings just for my Maschine going at the same time. I had reworked the DJTT Instant Gratification and the Deckalized mappings to work on Pages A and B and also some other nice stuff like a beat gridding mapping for Decks A and B on two other pages. Each "page" was its own device. It worked for the most part, but has some flakiness, which I can't seem to fix. So I gave up on it. Also with the multiple large TSI's, the controller manager becomes a real PITA to use, because it loads so slow. Oh well. And with the release of the new marketing stuff about the F1 and 2.5, I am afraid NI again didn't do any improvements on the Controller Manager. Again, oh well. scamo |
| Leisha Vanderwege 16.03.2012 | I am lucky enough to own a mac. I downloaded the xtreme mapping, I am going to map machine for simple things like all 8 cues. I would like it to work in conjunction with Scamo's mapping without changing this awesome mapping. I have no mapping experience but i do have 10 years of typesetting/file mapping/XML conversion. So it can't be to difficult. Finding the time will be the hardest between work and 3 little kids. Will anyone be interested in the Maschine mapping? Scamo, What do you believe of this idea? Any suggestions? |
| Marget Vasilko 15.03.2012 | The suspense is killing me!!! |
| Jared Foye 15.03.2012 | Stuck in the world of Windows too, not begrudgingly though. I kinda like the challenges of working on TSI's, although a nice bigger screen and cut and paste would do wonders. Scamo I just released a video minimix audition for Ministry Sessionz here and learnt how to get good screen grabs to show the effects working. I was believeing of making a video that highlights all of the effects you and I have built into your mapping, but im believeing should I just wait for the 4.5? All this quiet hype you have surrounding it is getting me excited. Whatever help you need I would love to be of service. Cheers Alinement |
| Rey Holubar 15.03.2012 | Well, I hope to have some time this weekend to work some more on 4.5. It is about 30-40% finished. Thanks for the tip about Xtrememapping. I read about it and unfortunately, I am stuck in the world of Windows at the moment. Xtrememapping is a tool, which I definitely desperately need. I am also looking to get an MBP at some point. This is just one reason more to get one. scamo |
| Ethel Saracco 15.03.2012 | Hey scamo. Are you running Mac OSX? If so check out the Xtreme Mapping App. Huge improvement over using Traktor's controller manager. It's not a perfect solution, but it's definitely better. I'm guessing that they use this at DJTT since they did a review on it a while back. http://www.xtrememapping.com/ |
| Wendi Filipkowski 14.03.2012 | i want to thank you too for your 4.4 mapping. looking 4 times a day into this threat and hope for 4.5... |
| Rey Holubar 14.03.2012 | I also have a Maschine, but gave up getting a serious mapping together on it, because it is actually too powerful for Traktor. Or rather, Traktor's Controller Manager just doesn't cope well with large multiple TSIs. It becomes are real PITA and slow. I really hope NI improves the controller mapping functions with 2.5. I can't imagine it won't be with the coming of the F1. I couldn't imagine mapping multiple control pages with the F1 (similar to the Maschine) with the current Controller Manager. But, I have a feeling NI uses other tools we don't know about to get their mappings done and it is a crying shame they don't release it to more powerful controller mappers. ( I bet DJTT has it, if there is such a thing and NI could actually sell it as an external product to Traktor. No? I'd buy it.) The Controller Manager just simply sucks, once you start getting more complex with your mappings. The area of controller mapping is actually an area where NI leads the market and they could get light years ahead of everyone else, if they'd actually make the Controller Manager better. It is needing improvement. I also believe this one single improvement could also help controllerism take a major leap forward. scamo |
| Leisha Vanderwege 14.03.2012 | Scamo Thank for the mapping. I spent many days looking for the best mapping and you have the best!! I have a Maschine. Any ideas on how to incorporate this with your mapping? What else do you use in addition to your S4? An update to 2.5 and the F1 controller are coming out soon. Any thoughts on this? |
| Donella Bentch 11.03.2012 | Ok |
| Rey Holubar 11.03.2012 | Hi viper, This or something similar was asked for by another user and I said I'd add information like this to the next version's manual. So yes, you'll be getting this kind of information with the next version. scamo |
| Donella Bentch 11.03.2012 | Hey Scamo, is it possible to show us your FX Combos like this: Effect Group Name Default Amount Wet/Dry: Relative Amount Wet/Dry: Effect 1 Select: Default Amount: Relative Amount: Effect 2 Select: Default Amount: Relative Amount: Effect 3 Select: Default Amount: Relative Amount: Advanced Select: Default Amount 1: Default Amount 2: Default Amount 3: Relative Amounts: Out Effect: I believe it |
| Hulda Ramprasad 10.03.2012 | Found it, all match up fine. However, I've deleted the mapping completely and re-added twice, this seems to have got me going again. Cheers. |
| Hulda Ramprasad 10.03.2012 |
Originally Posted by scamo
Thanks. |
| Rey Holubar 10.03.2012 | Well, with 4.5, which still is a week or two off, I'll have the values each FX group has in a table and then everyone can be sure, which effects are supposed to be there or not and how much and also be able to go through the mapping and "fix" anything should it be wrong. The only other suggestion I have right now is to go through the past threads (sorry no time to do it for you). One of the users listed the effects order in a post and asked that I also arrange the effects in the same order in my mapping, so the midi-fighter would also work side by side with it, which I did. You could make sure your effects are also arranged in the same order according to that list. Maybe for some reason (through another mapping?) the order of effects is incorrect in your Traktor. scamo |
| Hulda Ramprasad 09.03.2012 |
Originally Posted by scamo
I believe what I'll try later on is to unplug the X1 and remove it from TP2, then delete and re-add your map and see if that takes me anywhere, just to eliminate the X1 interfering. Will let you know later on. Thanks for the reply. |
| Rey Holubar 09.03.2012 | And when you go back to scratch mode and then back to FX jogs, does it stay the same? scamo |
| Hulda Ramprasad 09.03.2012 | Thanks for the reply, John. Have tried that, but unfortunately not. Not sure why Effect 1 seems to be stuck on these new parameters.. |
| Marget Vasilko 09.03.2012 |
Originally Posted by cheef
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| Hulda Ramprasad 09.03.2012 |
Originally Posted by cheef
Many thanks. |
| Ethel Saracco 07.03.2012 | Once again Scamo - excellent work! I've spent a few days using this mapping and am really enjoying some of the FX combos. I also use a Midi Fighter Pro Cue Master with my S4. I thought that perhaps I could make some changes to your mapping so that it would "play nice" with my MF. What I was hoping to accomplish was to have the FX Units 1 & 3 only come on when the left jog is touched in Jog FX mode (and FX Units 2 & 4 when the right jog is touched). This is essentially how my MF fighter works. So when you're done pressing a button or jog the FX units turn off. I believe this would solve some issues with other Midi controllers being FX compatible. I believe the theory was good, but unfortunately I'm not the best at using modifiers in Traktor. One thing I quickly realized was that I couldn't get the Freeze to stay on with Armyofme's Sweep effect, because when I release the jog wheel the FX units turn off. Anyway, perhaps you can consider something like this in a future update. Keep up the great work! |
| Hulda Ramprasad 07.03.2012 | Folks, I had the mapping running sweetly, but I added a Kontrol X1 to my S4 set-up a couple of days ago and believe I may have changed something, somewhere (by accident in the excitement of a new device) inadvertently for Effect 1 of the map on Deck A. The default state for Effect 1 of this mapping (Ean's Beatmasher) looks like this (screenshot taken from my default Deck B FX bank): Traktor-1.jpg However the default state of the same effect on Deck A's FX bank is now like this: Traktor.jpg I have tried re-importing the default mapping, a number of times, but unfortunately it does not change the default state back to how it should be for that effect. Can someone tell me how I can revert Deck A's "effect 1" back to the default values for this mapping, please? Many thanks, c |
| Oswaldo Appeldorn 05.03.2012 | Wwoow scam very very good work.. any tips for the problem when changing deck D and pressing load... i can't forget that lol. Anyway Keep up the excellent work!! |
| Joshua Hertzog 04.03.2012 | I check this thread every few days.. Hoping for another version full of awesome. |
| Ethel Saracco 02.03.2012 | Wow Scamo! I just imported your mapping today and I'm very impressed. Great work. Looking forward to the next version. |
| Marget Vasilko 02.03.2012 | Here I was believeing YOUR baby was an album or a "mixtape", but that ominous "All of you also use "my baby" quite often, you just don't realize it.....yet." completely threw me off... You've got my attention... |
| Rey Holubar 02.03.2012 | If all goes well with my other project, sometime next week as a beta (again). scamo |
| Hulda Ramprasad 01.03.2012 | Excellent, thank you. $64,000 question: when do you anticipate (roughly, if necessary) to release 4.5? |
| Rey Holubar 01.03.2012 | Hi cheef, The simple answer is "Nope". But, with 4.5, you will be able to scroll through the effects in both directions and because you are using a knob for the selection, it is a bit faster than pressing a button. scamo |
| Hulda Ramprasad 01.03.2012 | By the way, a quick question. Is there a way to shortcut a certain effect out of the 7? As opposed to having to scroll through them to get to the one you want? |
| Rey Holubar 01.03.2012 |
Originally Posted by kooper1980
scamo |
| Hulda Ramprasad 01.03.2012 | I'm a mixing newbie. Learning very fast with my S4. Have tried the DJTT mapping, and enjoyed it. But oh my, this one is high-end sweetness. A huge, and I mean HUGE thank you to those who have put in the hours creating and supporting it. I've only had it installed for the past 2 hours, but everything feels right. Well done. |
| Kristofer Krauel 01.03.2012 |
Originally Posted by scamo
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| Rey Holubar 01.03.2012 | Thanks Yul for the qualified answer. scamo |
| Kecia Wnukowski 01.03.2012 |
Other than the loop length led's what doesn't work right in midi mode? The way I was believeing about doing it was to use the regular mapping for transport and track selection, and then switch to midi mode for an all out effects page.
- hid mode - all the led main displays for decks - some functions (or actually the sum of functions you can't reproduce together) and additional led feedback You gain: - a blank canvas to work upon - possibility to map faders and knobs as buttons (to create pure super knobs). - possibility to map the s4 to additional softwares - you can set up almost all midi channels and midi messages as you see fit using the controller editor The restrictions are your own midi mapping abilities and technical ones coming from the software and/or controller manager. |
| Rey Holubar 29.02.2012 | To be honest, I am not sure what all doesn't work. I just know many a user have been disappointed with pure S4 midi mappings. Maybe it was just the mapping. But go for it, if it fits your fancy. scamo |
| Marget Vasilko 29.02.2012 | Other than the loop length led's what doesn't work right in midi mode? The way I was believeing about doing it was to use the regular mapping for transport and track selection, and then switch to midi mode for an all out effects page. |
| Rey Holubar 28.02.2012 | The issue with midi-mode isn't restrictions, but what then doesn't work as you would expect. scamo |
| Marget Vasilko 28.02.2012 | I've found that on the 4.4 mapping the delay sometimes gets stuck on when using the gater effect (if I remember right). I believe I wanna attempt a midi mapping. I believe there'd be much less restrictions on what can and can't be done in midi mode. I'm gonna start doing research. |
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