NI kontrol M1 (member mockup)
NI kontrol M1 (member mockup) Posted on: 10.01.2011 by Demetra Pinizzotto Idea I had:2 channel mixer controller module. same size as the X1, same knobs and colours. I did a little photoshop and came up with this. comments, ideas and bumps are welcome. I will update the picture when a good idea comes in and I find some time. in the picture there are some labels on the buttons, in the real version I'd rather not have that. just to show you guys what is what. | |
| Demetra Pinizzotto 26.01.2011 | looking at the comments since I posted my design, no one has anything to add? great off to NI then |
| Random X 24.01.2011 |
Originally Posted by joostiisme
Thats the touchpad I want to use on my touchpad/arcade-button/knob design. |
| Cammy Clegg 24.01.2011 |
Originally Posted by chrisw
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| Cammy Clegg 24.01.2011 | Can ya do that one with 3 line faders and make them a weeee bit longer. |
| Demetra Pinizzotto 24.01.2011 | the range so far: touch unit not added yet. might come soon Kontrol FX2 hasn't been changed since earlier post Kontrol M2 mixer unit Kontrol X2. X1 edit, no FX controls, more focused on tempo, loops, and transport thats it for know, try to figure out what mapping I've got in mind, I did not add any labels. comments, likes, dislikes, features to add etc? please tell! |
| Cammy Clegg 24.01.2011 |
Originally Posted by joostiisme
I would like to see an FX specific jogwheel that would allow DJTT style fx mapping. Like in all honesty right now, I use my DN SC2000 as a fx conntroller |
| Demetra Pinizzotto 24.01.2011 |
Originally Posted by safefire
was featured on DJTT a while back. KP3 style would be nicer tho: imagine having one of those touchpads with some sample buttons etc, kinda work the same as the korg units do, but no synthesis |
| Lewis Stumpf 24.01.2011 | Can't wait Touchpads are a bit hard to work with in real life, especially multi-touch ones, especially-especially if they have a screen below them. The problem is not how to control them, but more a matter of actually GETTING them. I've been looking around for multi-touch pads of any size for a good while now, and the only companies that sell them do so in bulk quantities, usually 100+ or 1000+. I haven't the money to throw a line for a bulk order. But if I had, oh I would go crazy |
| Demetra Pinizzotto 24.01.2011 | I hope they've already picked it up. in the controllers, mods and gear reviews, this thread is one of the few with over 100 posts. in fact it's the sixth most replied thread in this section of the community . in a few weeks. must be seen by a few moderator (Ean maybe) update: I'm working on the kontrol 2 series I will post the complete collection as soon as I've finished it. Im woking on the X2 now. will be deck controls, so pitchbend, pitch fader, trasport browsing, loops etc. anyone want to add something? anyone got any ideas on how to incorporate touchpads in a kontrol T2? kaoss style maybe? |
| Cleo Basket 23.01.2011 | You guys have my full support... it's awesome...I love your concept... Send them to NI and DJTT maybe make a video on youtube to explain the concept...we need to spread it This dream must come true !! |
| Random X 24.01.2011 |
Originally Posted by safefire
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| Demetra Pinizzotto 23.01.2011 | I believe you could map those fader to pan/EQ in traktor too. tho only in 2 decks, not the master. You could map the faders to two EQ parameters, one inverted, and limited to a certain level. so you wont overdo the EQ'ing |
| Lewis Stumpf 23.01.2011 | I have the jog-wheel pretty well figured out, the hardest part is making the actual "wheel" look right. The "smart-faders" are the three extra crossfaders in the middle, supposedly to allow per-frequency fading between tracks. This would probably require ableton, but I'm working on incorporating some more ableton-friendly features into the controller too. I'll take note of the buttons, good call. If you feel like laying out something on your own, using my top-drawing, feel free. Might be a little easier to explain that way |
| Demetra Pinizzotto 23.01.2011 | smart faders? the ones in the middle? you might want to add some buttons for modifiers/shift/modes. especially when you want smart faders & knobs. looking at you're thread these controllers could very well be easier to make then your turntable controller. A jogwheel is probebly quite hard to make... I cant really tell since I've never made anything. |
| Lewis Stumpf 23.01.2011 | Yeah. I suppose I oughta post it here, but I reckon it'd be bad for business abandon my own thread like that :P I'm still on track on making my own turntable controller, but who knows, maybe I'll get on to more advanced things when that ones done EDIT: What'd you believe of the mixer though. I'm pretty fond of the smart-mixer faders, as well as the layout. Any thoughts? |
| Demetra Pinizzotto 23.01.2011 | I recognize the outer units you produce nice stuff while dosing:P colour is quite dark tho, maybe some light reflection on the units to make it pop out (just for presentation) cant wait till I get to learn maya much more expressive then photoshop with these kind of mockups. haha, you did get a bit of track, starting at a sigledeck arduino ending up with that |
| Lewis Stumpf 23.01.2011 | Hey joost, tekki. http://www.djranking s.com/community /sho...t=22876&page=2 |
| Lewis Stumpf 23.01.2011 |
Originally Posted by bobsagat666
Consider looking @ sparkfun's eagle library (http://www.opencircuits.com/SFE_Footprint_Library_Eagle), and their standards for buttons matrices. They sell assembled boards, as well as rubber overlays for buttons. I'm a little more fond of their approach to button pads than Livids, as the boards are a lot more well layed out, they support multi-color leds, etc. I should be throwing up some pictures of my own button-matrix soon, using it as a prototype for my controller. I'm prototyping with the sparkfun board |
| Demetra Pinizzotto 23.01.2011 | I have seen the 4 midi loop. (it wasn't released at namm, richie hawtin reviewed it in his hotel room during namm. he had one with him.) it looks good, I have the same problem with is as with the faderfox units. the buttons are just to small, no LEDs in the buttons, everything is cramped in a small space. Ive seen te introduction video on the site, the features look amazing, you can really control everything. (btw price is quite steep too, |
| Emilee Woytovich 23.01.2011 |
Originally Posted by MrPopinjay
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| Marlena Mouer 23.01.2011 | Wow this thread is looking great. I am planning to draw up a PCB in eagle that could act as a shield that can be put on an arduino mega (I believe ill start with the pad matrix style using the buttons from livid). This coupled with faceplate/enclosure plans could make for a nice DIY kit. The big issue Im having now is getting MIDI back into the arduino via USB utilizing the Roland driver. This is crucial if we want any LED feedback. As for the LED lit arcade buttons, Ill post my ALMOST finished controller tomorrow. |
| Dj aziz mastouri 22.01.2011 |
Originally Posted by chrisw
How about we all petition DJranking s to make these bad boys. We all no that they can and will do it. Also while they do it they will keep us in mind and not try to make it there own. I believe if anybody should make these it should be Techtools or some mad scientist. But I believe the man who started this thread should get some credit. Im sure Techtools would be the only one to do that. |
| Lewis Stumpf 22.01.2011 | http://www.djranking
s.com/community
/sho...850#post215850 If you want some other buttons and sizes for mockups, ask away |
| Cammy Clegg 22.01.2011 |
Originally Posted by joostiisme
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| Lewis Stumpf 22.01.2011 | That was what I had up my sleeve Joost, and the reason I was waiting to post my stuff, damn you man! :P I'd like to throw my skills into this mix and look into the idea of a couple different controllers, soon as I'm done drawing PCB's for my own controller (which you guys are WELCOME to integrate into this mockup-maddness, wink wink), I'll sit down and flesh out the mixer concept as bit, as well as looking at a way to make the effects unit too. EDIT: I'm pretty excited about all this, I'll take 15 minutes off and do a top-down of my own controller for photoshopping. If any of you want to mock up things based on arcade buttons, check over to my own thread in a few minutes |
| Demetra Pinizzotto 22.01.2011 | haha, I'm not albe to make these things, and I am not in contact with DJTT of NI. It's also a wish of mine that these devices would be build. Im only talking about photoshop mockups. I have never made a DIY controller... I'm just handy with photoshop. and believe alot... |
| Dj aziz mastouri 22.01.2011 | OK...... uh So what does that mean??? Can we expect joostiisme's madness to become a reality?? Can I spread this thread all over the web lol or keep it on the DL? these things aint goin to be like 400 bucks are they. (as u can tell im way trippin right now! this is SICK!!!) Are there clear arcade buttons because im sure we all dig the LED's |
| Demetra Pinizzotto 23.01.2011 | nice one tekki Ive got two exams next week, so I wont be making a new mockups before next weekend. I want to make my next mockups in the same style as the FX unit, I better like the white LEDs. Ill try to make the whole serie and post them all at once. till then. keep posting ideas, mockups and comments |
| Random X 23.01.2011 | I will make an Arcade button/touchpad mockup after this weekend guys. |
| Dj aziz mastouri 23.01.2011 | I believe i just wet myself So i was looking at my X1 and it already has the pitch bend and temp. hahahahahaha my bad... pitch fader would still be cool tho. Carry on |
| Demetra Pinizzotto 22.01.2011 | little idea how the serie would look like, note: I have not changed any of the pictures, they're the same I posted before. In my last post I told my idea, this is just to look at the whole picture, as it is now, unchanged |
| Dj aziz mastouri 22.01.2011 | You the man! (did i say that already?) Since i started playing with the X1 I find myself only touching the VCI to Cue, pitch bend and adjust the EQ. the X1 has everything that u need to set hot cues and use FX. (Using Traktor anyway) and at a price of 199, with a unit being made sold at a similar price. Getting another X1 and one of these possible 4 channel or two channel "Mixers" with (hate to beat a dead horse) pitch bend would be EPIC!!! Then other units that stray away from the X1 unit and have all the FX, Super faders and arcade buttons for CUE Juggle. |
| Demetra Pinizzotto 22.01.2011 | maybe a completely new serie of controllers, not based around the X1. but follow up the unit. kontrol Version 2 something like: X2: transport, deck, 4x FX assign buttons, tempo controls FX2: Cue points, 2X FX controls, assignable faders (for super faders etc.) like my FX1 mockup M2: two channel mixer, EQ, gain, filter, pan, headphone cue, master volume, volume faders, crossfader. (similar to my second or third M1 mockup) SD2: sample deck, and other features that would go nice with the new traktor. freely assignable touchpad maybe? all of them with usb ports on the side so you can connect them together tight. so only one usb chord going to the PC/MAC. no lables on the buttons, or on the face plate. labled overlay with standard mapping. would be great. Looking forward to something like that anyone want to add a unit? |
| Dj aziz mastouri 22.01.2011 | Also was believeing. On a two channel mixer.. could you add two pitch faders and pitch bend buttons as well. Problem i have with a midi controller with out jog wheels is... When ever im at a party and i need to mix in a track from some one else using CDJ or Turns. I need to beatmatch into my session. with out a jog wheel or pitch bend I would be lost So i believe a pitch bend and pitch faders would be really nice. Think it would only look good on a two channel. with the four it might be to cluttered. |
| Lisa Lochotzki 22.01.2011 | I'm available for the hardware design part |
| Dj aziz mastouri 22.01.2011 |
Originally Posted by joostiisme
Do me a favor tho. Can you take the Traktor logo off there and put your own DJTechTools label on it? You kind sir are the shit. EAN GIVe THIS DUDE A JOB! |
| Random X 21.01.2011 | Coolness guys! |
| Lewis Stumpf 21.01.2011 | As I mentioned, I've had a busy week. I'm getting back to it this weekend hopefully EDIT: I'm working on the internals of the jog-wheel for my own controller at the moment too, getting the pcb layed out and such. I'll have a look at the controllers here again, try and mess around with the design for the effects unit, that one looked exciting |
| Demetra Pinizzotto 21.01.2011 | got anything done yet? excited to see what you turn up with. |
| Lewis Stumpf 17.01.2011 | Small self-bump. I'm a little busy this week (got a bunch of hand-ins due on top of each other), so I'm postponing work on dj stuff for a little bit. I'm making good progress though, currently looking at the internal placement of components, spacing etc. I'm going to look into to FX unit posted some pages back next, as I believe that offers some interesting possibilities. I'd like to look at incorporating a small USB hub in the mixer, but that won't be for a little while. Keep the ideas coming |
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