Production competition?
Production competition? Posted on: 21.12.2009 by Verona Fashbaugh Maybe nobody will go for this idea. But I like it.I believe that if multiple people took part in this, we could learn a lot from one another. Let's say we start with a series of parameters and basic guidelines for a track, and then whoever wants to can make their own track based on these simple guidelines. For example, let's say for one of them the track has to be a basic house track, with a simple 4x4 beat and the use of a 303-ish synth, make use of some common sample, and be three to four minutes long. Additionally, this could help people broaden their production skills by encouraging them to try to produce styles they hadn't before. And, say that in general we could have a new set of guidelines to use each week, so that the whole thing would be a fairly quick, but insightful, endeavor. Just an idea. I suppose it's not really a competition, but a giant collaboration project of sorts. Any thoughts? | |
| Sherika Lasee 01.02.2010 |
Originally Posted by THEWETBANDITS
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| Jayne Yellowhair 01.02.2010 | Is this thread dead? Lol no seriously I'm up for some more production competition I really don't mind the rules, you guys fight over it |
| Verona Fashbaugh 25.01.2010 | I just realized I spaced out and forget to actually post my response to everyone's track other than sj03w4t. Wetbandits: I loved your synths. To be honest, I thought you went a little overboard with the empire of oppression stuff. Way to use the hoover sound though! charo: you definitely get the award for the most original song of the group imo. Like I mentioned before, what you did with the radio thing was cool, great job all around.
Originally Posted by LiveFastStephen
Originally Posted by THEWETBANDITS
So basically, it comes down to this: Do we want to use: 1. Stephan's aforementioned voice/sampler/etc. to come up with a sample. 2. A sample from the remix manifesto movie 3. ...or something else...? and Do we want to do: 1. A hip-hop song with a string-based melody 2. An uplifting trance song 3. ....or something else...? (I believe it would be cool to use some sort of ambient melodic voice sample... just a suggestion... [*nods at stephen*]) Also, I just want to say thanks to everyone. I didn't believe anyone would go for this thing. This is way cool! |
| Margarette Griggers 25.01.2010 | Nice job everyone, we're all over the map but it was fun for sure- some thoughts on the other mixes: sj03w4t: I liked your drums, they were nice and rhythmic even though out of 4/4. It definitely could have used some more elements but I believe the synth was meaty enough that it helped fill things up, which was good. Lambox- I thought your mix was nice and upbeat, good job with the hoover. I thought it sounded a little video-game-ish (maybe what you were going for). Charo- I really liked how you used the vocal clip- slowing it down sounded good and I especially liked how you chopped it and looped it to kick off the song- sort of what I was going for although I agree that I overused it (badly)(sj03w4t)... Charo and lambox, you guys both did really interesting things, personally I thought both songs weren't quite musical enough - they bounced around but didn't seem particularly unified... this is just a personal thing as I'm not really a minimal/experimental fan at all. I am up for another round - I believe it might be interesting to have more musical guidelines rather than a sample to use, or make the sample more integral. Don't know about everyone else but I believe I'd benefit from trying to make something with strict guidelines rather than just sort of seeing what I ended up with. I am up for anything, but some ideas to get things rolling with the sort of guidelines I would find more interesting (and more challenging): idea 1 - a hip hop beat that uses strings in the melody idea 2 - uplifting trance (maybe someone could even pick the key as another guideline) Cheers everyone, looking forward to the next round... |
| Sherika Lasee 25.01.2010 | Yo guys it was real chill hearing all your music after talking to you guys in the community
for a while, new respect for everyone for sure.. for our next comp. lets give birth to a brain child here at dj tech tools, by attempting to get input from everyone who wants to join// now as for your request just quote our sample requests & add yours (without trying to get a leg up on the competition by recommending something you've already mangled to perfection) DJTT February competition SAMPLES: Stephen - sound effects for DJTT's youtube video intro's Charo - "sound bits from that remix movie i made a thread about" |
| juan garcia 25.01.2010 | this is just from searching, but i found this: http://ccmixter.org/rip |
| Verona Fashbaugh 25.01.2010 | ^^^ Actually I've never heard of that, but the next time I get myself over to the library I'll definitely look for it. If that movie is creative commons, and there is some simple way for all of us to get the audio from it, then let's go for it. |
| juan garcia 26.01.2010 |
Originally Posted by Lambox
as for ideas, here is the link to the RIP!A remix manifesto: http://www.hulu.com/watch/88782/rip-a-remix-manifesto we could take a vocal snippet about remixing or the use of samples or even just have no set snippet, just use the audio from some part of the movie. i believe the whole movie is creative commons & believe there is already some songs doing just that, and we could link the best of ours to that website at the end. just an idea. |
| Verona Fashbaugh 26.01.2010 | sj03w4t, since you tore all of us to shreds, I thought I'd return the favor. (I also liked your "compliment followed by criticism" format, so I thought I'd follow) I liked the way your beat never just sounded like a looped sample. I also liked the way you maintained a calm energy and rhythm throughout. Nice job. A little too minimal for my liking, but hey... that's the point of this whole experiment, isn't it?! Thanks for participating everyone, I'm glad this was more successful the second time around. Anyone care to come up with a new sample and guidelines? I guess if no one does in the next 24 hours or so, I'll just start looking for a new sample, but I'd rather have someone else generate something. |
| Jayne Yellowhair 24.01.2010 | Please consider this as constructive criticism not a burn-down. Hey charo, I really liked your intro with that 'searching radio' thing that's awesome Just from 0:38 onwards it started being strange and I thought it was some random long-notes and a couple of hits in between.. I found it to have not enough structure and rhythm. Lambox: you sure have enough variation! cool That hoover sound fits quite nicely into your composition I believe. Also lol @ having same vocal delay idea :P Around 1:21 it's cool beat but I don't really like the synth sound to be honest. @THEWETBANDITS: I liked your bass sound but I believe it would be epic if you added more drums to it. Also, the bit of the sample 'empire of oppression' drove me nuts after a while. No offence anyone, I invite you to burn down my track :P lol j/k |
| Verona Fashbaugh 24.01.2010 | Okay so, here's the list of songs that were submitted for this one (in the order they were submitted): THEWETBANDITS: http://www.mediafire.com/?nmj2yy2miiw sj03w4t: http://soundcloud.com/greenhouse-gus...mple-usage-gus charo: http://soundcloud.com/charotapeprodu...efromthefuture Lambox: http://www8.zippyshare.com/v/47107636/file.html Charo, what you did with the sample was killer. Nice job! Anyone wanna pick a potential "winner?" I dont know about you guys, but this is really cool (not trying to brag or anything), its cool to see what different people come up with when given some basic parameters! Thanks for actually doing this you guys!! Who's ready for the next one?!? Any ideas??!??
Originally Posted by charo
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| Verona Fashbaugh 24.01.2010 | Sorry I'm late guys, but here's mine. I didn't as much done as I had hoped, but I really liked the way it is coming along, if you guys like it, I'll probably keep working on. I'll listen to what everyone else did in just a second. Thanks to everyone who participated! http://www8.zippyshare.com/v/47107636/file.html |
| Jayne Yellowhair 24.01.2010 | Okay thanks for the feedback guys if anyone wants the .wav i van put it on RapidShare or something.. Also, im probably not going to work on this track anymore, it was fun but i've got a test week coming up so not so much time for production. |
| Sherika Lasee 24.01.2010 |
Originally Posted by sine143
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| Al Henger 23.01.2010 | and Charo, I really liked what you did with the sample, you made the best use of it. |
| Al Henger 23.01.2010 |
Originally Posted by LiveFastStephen
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| juan garcia 23.01.2010 | i liked his too. looks like i'll probably finish top 3 in my first competition mine was really out there, haven't really tried a song like that before, but it really took on a life of its own as it got going. |
| Sherika Lasee 23.01.2010 |
Originally Posted by sine143
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| Al Henger 23.01.2010 | sjo3w4t: I believe i liked your track the best. It was repetitive, but it was a goo proof of concept, and had a non standard perc track. Only real con with it was that the sub bass wasnt very defined, needed a little more attack maybe. |
| juan garcia 23.01.2010 | http://soundcloud.com/charotapeproductions/tapefromthefuture mine too a while, feel asleep before it was ready. I was believeing it might be fun to do a competition where we remixed each others tracks from a previous competition.... |
| Jayne Yellowhair 23.01.2010 | About 15 minutes for this track.. |
| juan garcia 22.01.2010 | here's my "track" didn't have as much time as i thought i would on it. went old school, recorded bush speech onto tape, and from there no computer til some editing at the end. I used my asr-x pro, a 4-track tape recorder, a Arp Quartet (1979 synth), and fm radio for the beginning part. that quote to me is very future post societal breakdown, where a big brother police state struggles to keep control through use of increasing control... guess that's the angle of inspiration...like what music might sound like in a world where playing music is going to get your door kicked in, or something... first time using soundcloud hope this works: edit how does soundcloud take to create the waveform for you guys? |
| Jayne Yellowhair 22.01.2010 | It's still uploading now but it should appear any moment: I used solely Reason, which I'm not that good with but I like it. I don't have monitors but a red 'clipping' light showed in reason on some parts, no time to fix it I hope you likes.. I believe it's not that good but well here goes http://soundcloud.com/greenhouse-gus/bush-sample-usage-gus edit: oh and yeah it's kinda repetitive at the middle-end but lack of time is a good excuse?? |
| Margarette Griggers 22.01.2010 | Ok, here it is. This is pretty much my first real stab at production, have been adding more and more drums/bass/effects to mashups but haven't made a full track before. I like the funkiness of the synths once they kick in, tried to create a contrast between the opening sample and the rest of the song (military-type beat contrast to the later funk)... but I really don't like how the opening sounds and especially the hoover sounds super out of place. I was assuming "not a 4x4 beat" means no 4 on the floor kick, and not out of 4:4 time (which would be pretty silly for dance music anyways). In short, I like the funky syncopation and the synths, but I don't like the beginning and the track would need a lot of work (probably taking out the vocal sample entirely and really re-doing a lot of it) for us to be ready to release it... although it might be added to the "projects pile." Thanks for any feedback and/or criticism the link: An Empire of Oppression [THEWETBANDITS demo] Oh, and one other thing: I spent a lot of time looking for a free auto-tune VST that will run on an intel mac with no success (I might be happier with the track if I spent less time looking for that and more on the production itself... lol). Any suggestions? |
| Jayne Yellowhair 22.01.2010 | Well the expiration date is today which is cool but I'm a little nervous because I'm not really happy with my track. I have never produced a broken beat like this so please be easy on me :P . I'm on the wrong PC now, so I don't have the track here but I'll upload it later this evening. Looking forward to others! |
| Harold Jaras 21.01.2010 | my bad for bailing on the first one. wish i could do this right now but i'm swamped with other music ish. i'm getting the email updates for this thread and am excited to hear what you guys come up with no doubt. expect big things from lambox |
| Verona Fashbaugh 21.01.2010 |
Originally Posted by sj03w4t
I'm pretty excited about the way my build up is coming along. It's something I've been trying to get better at. |
| Jayne Yellowhair 20.01.2010 | Okay so after today there are two more days. How's everyone going on the Bush sample? I've adjusted it quite a bit although it's not final yet. Also I have only one build up which I'm not exactly satisfied with.. |
| Sherika Lasee 17.01.2010 |
Originally Posted by charo
& for sure on topic can you submit a link to that remix video. then we can all find some favorite parts, ill rip, isolate and clean them up the best i can then host them for dl and mixing. |
| juan garcia 17.01.2010 | i was asking about the process of cleaning, and wondering if you are changing much on the sample before you know what the sample will be used for? programs like totalrecorder make getting audio like you are talking about easy, or when i'm in linux its easy to route the audio through audacity to record it there. lets talk more about that remix movie when the next comp is going to get started. |
| Sherika Lasee 17.01.2010 |
Originally Posted by charo
- Drag a video into one of the open clips in Ableton (example Audio 1 top clip) - After it loads copy it, switch to the session view and paste it (in the Audio1 track.) - Got to File > Export Audio/Video - Choose your Data & Audio setting but under Video where you see Create Video File select to turn it off Render & now you have a .WAV from the video. by clean it up.. I meant put it threw the process where i throw on the Bose headphones & go threw all my "clean it up" mastering tweeks/effects to make it perfect. yo that asr-x pro looks dope, so does your idea about incorporating samples from a remix movie. if you need help getting any parts out just throw me the url & approximate time of sample you want. lets get some bad ass stuff everyone wants to get in on! |
| juan garcia 17.01.2010 |
Originally Posted by LiveFastStephen
I like hardware samplers, I have the asr-x pro, not sure if you have heard of that before, that's like an mpc but it's got effects and can resample itself. i've been working on something for this with the bush quote that remix movie i made a thread about would be a good one for soundbits for the next competitions.... |
| Sherika Lasee 16.01.2010 |
Originally Posted by LiveFastStephen
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| Sherika Lasee 16.01.2010 |
Originally Posted by charo
Originally Posted by sine143
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| juan garcia 16.01.2010 |
Originally Posted by LiveFastStephen
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| Al Henger 16.01.2010 | The DjTT thing would be really cool, but I dont believe the other is really public domain (not that it *really* matters.) |
| Sherika Lasee 16.01.2010 | okay after some thought///since it's on dj tech tools I could sample the into to the DJTT youtube videos, as well as maybe take a sample from the G4 thing (like the announcer talking about digital dj'n or something). hah I can download ANY online content and rip (as high quality as they upload) audio from it so i just want everyone to agree before i "choose" cause im getting down on this next one! let me know! |
| Sherika Lasee 14.01.2010 | I have a computer. a mic. a sampler. spare time. finding a DOPE sample should be breezy. |
| Margarette Griggers 14.01.2010 | Alright, just got the samples, so I'm in. Looking forward to seeing what everyone's got on the 22nd. |
| Verona Fashbaugh 14.01.2010 |
Originally Posted by sj03w4t
Originally Posted by sj03w4t
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