Production competition?
Production competition? Posted on: 21.12.2009 by Verona Fashbaugh Maybe nobody will go for this idea. But I like it.I believe that if multiple people took part in this, we could learn a lot from one another. Let's say we start with a series of parameters and basic guidelines for a track, and then whoever wants to can make their own track based on these simple guidelines. For example, let's say for one of them the track has to be a basic house track, with a simple 4x4 beat and the use of a 303-ish synth, make use of some common sample, and be three to four minutes long. Additionally, this could help people broaden their production skills by encouraging them to try to produce styles they hadn't before. And, say that in general we could have a new set of guidelines to use each week, so that the whole thing would be a fairly quick, but insightful, endeavor. Just an idea. I suppose it's not really a competition, but a giant collaboration project of sorts. Any thoughts? | |
| Jayne Yellowhair 17.02.2010 | yeah I'm \/ for that one Rules (proposed, adding to this later) use the sample at http://ccmixter.org/files/BoHeart/19749 bpm??? key ??? genre ??? |
| juan garcia 17.02.2010 | i down with that one for the contest, or any one really... |
| Jayne Yellowhair 17.02.2010 | that is infact a cool voice |
| juan garcia 17.02.2010 | this guy has an interesting voice IMO: http://ccmixter.org/files/BoHeart/19749 |
| juan garcia 16.02.2010 | i believe you have a good point on using a vocal so we are working on new material, esp. with our last remix one. someone should just decide quick and i believe we should get rocking...i believe i'm going to use renoise or maybe ableton for this one, the red devil X will still want to play... thanks for the breakdown on how you work, i'll try more organization and structure for this one. edit: here is a link to acepellas under the creative commons licensing" http://ccmixter.org/view/media/pells |
| Margarette Griggers 16.02.2010 | Hey all Sorry to be late responding, took off for the long weekend and didn't have internet for a while. Thanks for the tip sj03w4t, I was using the embed code that soundcloud provides and it was just showing up as junk. xbelt- I though your mix was pretty solid, I believe maybe rearranging the vocals could have made it more interesting (more varied). In your original there were a few cool little build effects when you looped the synth chord sound, but it never really dropped and just sort of faded back into the mix. I believe if you made a bigger distinction between the builds and drops it might be more interesting, also it seemed like that synth was pretty loud compared to the rest of the track, especially with the vocals added in. charo- Another interesting mix that went a totally different direction. I like the bass, seems like it's what holds the song together. Like your last one, I guess I'm just not really sure how to approach it as I don't know much about minimal/ambient. Thanks for the positive feedback, we had fun making it for sure and it was cool to work with something a little different. We're using Ableton and start out making a few different drum patterns (build, break, longer pattern, ect). Generally then lay these out in a rough idea of how we want to structure the song, where we want a breakdown, ect, then start putting in the bass and rest of the sounds. We liked the "phoneme" sound and the chorus so decided to use those rather than the verses, and to use the phoneme with some effects to fill in sections around the chorus. Then we just play around for a while until it sounds ok, trying to always keep at least one element changing to make things interesting. As for the next one, I believe we're more interested in the production side of this rather than doing another remix, we have done a number of mashups and remixes and were hoping to get practice on this thread to create some beats and melodies of our own. I believe using a vocal sample is helpful as most electronic songs use one, but we've got a bit of a preference to keep trying new things every round. This site has a bunch of stems available if someone has a different idea for a vocal sample to use. That said, we're definitely ready for the next round and if everyone else wants to do more of a remix that's cool too. |
| Bertram Shiflett 13.02.2010 |
Originally Posted by sj03w4t
Well some of you said my track has a lack of vocals so what do you believe of that: djtt competition 2_vocal.mp3 |
| juan garcia 13.02.2010 |
Originally Posted by sj03w4t
not sure about you guys but i'm burnt out on that guy's voice but that wetbandits track it great, if they could post advice/tips i'm sure we'd all appreciate it. |
| Jayne Yellowhair 13.02.2010 | Please note that the music I embedded in my previous post wasn't my work, but THEWETBANDITS' work! I didn't finish any track myself because I found myself to be busier this week than expected sorry. I believe a re-edit of one of your previous tracks could be a really cool idea, but maybe a better idea if everyone improves the same song? I mean, everyone can upload their bad track and then we pick one of those uploaded songs to improve |
| Nancey Teck 12.02.2010 | this friendly competition seems like alot of fun. i thought everyone's track was good. definatly opened up my train of thought a little. i would like to join and submit a track for the next one if its ok. |
| juan garcia 12.02.2010 |
Originally Posted by Lambox
sorry for the confusion, i meant that we should individually take our old tracks we have been working on and do a re-edit and the basis of the competition would be to see which re-edit was most improved. edit: got a chance to listen to them all, nice work! i believe each of you could teach me a thing or two that's for sure |
| Verona Fashbaugh 13.02.2010 | Sorry guys once again I wasn't able to get anything done I guess it's a sign of my work ethic. I've been busy with schoolwork and trying to get a song produced for my girlfriend for Valentine's day. But either way, I can't believe how many of you guys are into this whole idea! xbelt: Nice job, real smooth throughout. Would have been better with the vocals, but overall you did a great job. wetbandits: Phenomenal work! I love it! sj03w4t: Great job. The only thing I would suggest would be slightly more variation in your drum loops. charo: you definitely get the award for taking it in a completely different direction. Nice job I like the idea of doing a re-edit on an old song, the only thing is that it would obviously be up to each individual to buy the song, as we're not trying to promote piracy. But it's up to you guys what the rules are. Next time I'll have the time again to participate. |
| juan garcia 12.02.2010 | http://soundcloud.com/charotapeproductions/djtts-comp2-song sorry it was late, better late then never as they say. as the next comp, I believe we should do something like we take an old song we have been working on and improve on it, do a re-edit. but that's just an idea as requested, like the other ideas as well. i'll take a listen to the rest this afternoon...the confusion of soundcloud might be the embed link that soundcloud gives when you click share. just use the www address of your track on soundcloud in between the soundcloud brackets. |
| Jayne Yellowhair 12.02.2010 | To insert soundcloud, put the link between [soundcloud*] and [/soundcloud*] tags (remove *) like this: http://soundcloud.com/thewetbandits/doubt-thewetbandits-remix I love this one by THEWETBANDITS, it has great hit potential! (so I added it to my favourites on soundcloud ) xbelt: nice song, except I missed a vocal! Would have been a cool addition IMO. |
| Margarette Griggers 11.02.2010 | Here it is. We weren't sure how to get a soundcloud player inserted in here... anyone? Suggestions for the next comp: -Use this vocal sample (vocals ONLY, you need to use your own instruments) -120-140 BPM -Due in two weeks (that way we can critique what we've got, decide on a sample, and have at least a week to work on it) This is part of a remix comp, so if you like what you've done for DJTT you'll have another 2 weeks+ to fine tune it then submit for the contest. |
| Bertram Shiflett 12.02.2010 | Ok here's my pruduction: djtt competition 2.mp3 I'm not really happy about it but as I already said, I'm a beginner with almost no experience in producing. I almost forgot that we have to post our rules: 1) 128-145 BPM 2) Key C 3) Deadline: February 20th 4) Use whatever style you want 5) Use this sample: http://moviethemes.net/music/Star_Wa...ial_Medley.mid (well you can adjust the instruments and don't use the whole samlpe) |
| Margarette Griggers 08.02.2010 | I am definitely participating. Trying to make something you can shake your body to. |
| Bertram Shiflett 07.02.2010 |
Originally Posted by end1
Hm my song is quiet 4x4 xD I'll post it on febraury 11th but please don't be too hard I'm just a beginner |
| Sherika Lasee 06.02.2010 | shit we could have killed 2 birds with 1 stone and all entered the official "delphic" competition if it wasn't a "while back" so are we remixing this track, you said "at least one" sounded like the more the better... making this more or less a remix comp. - other than a straight production comp. thou both sit in the same chair just in a different hat.. either way im down, downloaded half the stems already.. |
| Nancey Teck 06.02.2010 | when are the submissions due by? i'm not entering but would like to hear the work. |
| Matt Kane 06.02.2010 | cool! thank u! |
| juan garcia 07.02.2010 | click on the little buy me tab, that's a link to the zip it didn't open for me with ubuntu extract, going to try windows too edit: i was use a livecd version, works just fine on my harddrive copy of artistX |
| Matt Kane 07.02.2010 | hey fellas! would love to join, but where do i get the .zip for the stems? |
| Bertram Shiflett 06.02.2010 | I'm also in the competition but I'm a beginner so I don't know if get something good |
| Al Henger 04.02.2010 | hmmm... I like this. Again, I doubt I'll get something together, as I hope to be out all weekend having a good time, and I have a statics exam on tuesday.... |
| Jayne Yellowhair 04.02.2010 | Okay cheers for the tip Downloading now, and will be listening soon. Count me in for the competition |
| juan garcia 04.02.2010 |
Originally Posted by sj03w4t
I'm down with this new compo, this should be interesting, alot more to work with then that evil empire bush |
| Jolyn Brunello 04.02.2010 |
Originally Posted by mpetersen3
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| Laurel Litchko 04.02.2010 | the blogs were having a remix competition a while back that was sponsored by delphic. they spread the stems over 5 blogs or something like that |
| Jayne Yellowhair 04.02.2010 | cool, but the doubt stems aren't free? |
| Verona Fashbaugh 04.02.2010 |
Originally Posted by munizj
And yes I do, for some reason I typed the url wrong. Thanks for pointing it out tho. I fixed it. |
| Laurel Litchko 04.02.2010 | this is great. i like that we can make it whatever style we want. this same rule can be used on free samples we find online. ot: do you still have that blog open? the link doesnt work for me. |
| Verona Fashbaugh 04.02.2010 |
Originally Posted by munizj
These rules subject to change in the next 24 hours based on feedback by everyone involved. I felt like no one was ever going to make a decision, so here we go... 1. Let's say you have to use at least one of these stems: http://soundcloud.com/delphic/sets/doubt-stems 2. This time, use whatever beat style you want... if you want to go straight 4x4 throughout, knock yourself out. 3. Finish the "song" by Feburary 11th 4. Come up with your own set of rules for us to use next time. Please don't submit a song without giving your own ideas for guidelines in the same post I'm curious what you all believe of these guidelines, so let's hear what you have to say before anyone gets started. |
| Jayne Yellowhair 03.02.2010 |
Originally Posted by LiveFastStephen
So now: the first to come with a good sample will be the hero of us all and we will use that sample If not within 24 hours from now I'll select the sample :P |
| Iola Obradovich 02.02.2010 | Same here sj03w4t not keen on rap but love the instrumental beats |
| Jayne Yellowhair 02.02.2010 | even though I'm not into hiphop/rap etc. at all, I love this kind of stuff: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jLl6Y8EXBqI such great sample usage |
| Verona Fashbaugh 02.02.2010 | I completely forgot about this thread :eek: !!! Sorry guys! Since no one can agree on how to go about this, I'll just come up with some rules based on the ideas that you all had. I'm supposed to be in class in 3 minutes though, I'll set up from rules when I get back to my room in a few hours! |
| Jayne Yellowhair 02.02.2010 | Ok this is not working someone needs to set the rules.. |
| Laurel Litchko 01.02.2010 | how about a remix competition with some free stems that are out there? pon de floor was free and so was/is delphic...eh? |
| Iola Obradovich 01.02.2010 | I should have time to get a beat down this round, also open to anything. Stonesthrow reccords have had a weekly beat competition for ages and have a nice simple system in place for running it maybe we could follow a similar format using drop to publish the sample's/rules and entries all in one place. Have a look at this weeks battle to see how its done: http://www.stonesthrow.com/messagebo...howtopic=17161 |
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