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Camelot Wheel using Traktor's new "Open Key" notation
Posted on: 23.02.2013 by Cristina Hoston
In Traktor's most recent update (2.6.1 for those of you in the future), key detection was added using a new notation apparently called "Open Key". Personally I was already using Mix In Key and it's Camelot notation so I took a closer look at this new system and noticed that it is a one-to-one relationship (8A=1m, 9A=2m, ect.) but the numbers start on different keys. Since I am going to be switching to Traktor's key detection system now, I needed a new Camelot wheel to reference. I searched the web and didn't find any thing like this so I made one myself. I have attached the end result to the bottom, feel free to save it, print it out, stick it on things and graffiti it on government buildings.

By the way, I tryed to get the wheel colors to match the ones in Traktor
Twanna Jozefowicz
30.11.2013
helps KeyFinder for you)) this is better than MIK. before scanning in perferecne do like an a picture/IKNQn.jpg

after scanning in Traktor update your collection and set the collumn KEY TEXT. thats all))
Tifany Cabero
02.01.2014
For some reason the picture doesn't work for me? Can anyone convert it to a Jpeg?

I've tried everything and the picture is just a very small white dot.
Leonel Dimmock
30.12.2013
the links provided arent running.
please update it for the ones who needs.
Twanna Jozefowicz
30.11.2013
helps KeyFinder for you)) this is better than MIK. before scanning in perferecne do like an a picture/IKNQn.jpg

after scanning in Traktor update your collection and set the collumn KEY TEXT. thats all))
Dorene Wissen
22.10.2013
Awesome! Thanks for this. I'm going to Rotate the Camelot wheel and this so they line up with the Circle of Fifths then print all 3 out and laminate them. I have MIK add Camelot to comments, Musical key to Traktor's Key Text, and now Traktor adds its' Key under the Key column. It was bad enough trying to figure out Camelot, now another system!!??
Versie Arent
12.08.2013
Registered & snagged. Thanks for the wheel. Cheers!!
Elnora Hillel
10.08.2013
Registered just so I could grab this awesome wheel and say Thank you!!
Laci Lao
07.08.2013
Thanks For Share it very nice!!
Marcelle Akiu
15.06.2013
Same reason I registered....

understanding the keys better!, although now I've seen both versions its more understandable now!....

thanks for the hard work, print and laminate at work Monday
Marketta Milazzo
09.06.2013
+1 for this thread!!!! I Appreciate the work guys!
Elroy Chillson
06.06.2013
Hi guys,

thanx for the new wheel...that's great.

I've recently decided to revive my DJ hobby, having not played for a number of year. I've had my Traktor Kontrol S4 sitting at home collecting dust and never got a chance to really master using it, having switched from CDs a number of years ago (switched=made the decision but never really did dj using my controller). So here I am today, ready to get into it again, so started setting up my tracks, playlists etc....and this thread was really helpful in figuring out what the heck ins going on with Keys etc.

Now my question to you guys is this:
I understand from the above comments that Open Key is the essentially the same the Camelot wheel, but the problem I have is that when analysing the key in Mixed in Key the keys do not match at all. e.g. for a specific track I get 12m (traktor) Vs 7A (Mixed in Key v5) - what's up with that? Any ideas?

Thanx
Weston Votaw
23.05.2013
hiya :>

i was just wondering (and it might be stuipd) but what do u need the circle or chart for when u have the numbers and the colors since u can sort by keys now, what use does it have?
Colby Chiappelli
09.05.2013
Thanks, greatly appreciate this!
Daron Taher
04.05.2013
Great help, Thanks a million. PC
Amiee Dunehew
03.05.2013
Freakin. Amazing! Thank you!
Ami Zeko
30.04.2013
Registered just to say Thanks for this. So... Thank you!
Ami Zeko
30.04.2013
Originally Posted by Robert Wulfman
In Traktor's most recent update (2.6.1 for those of you in the future), key detection was added using a new notation apparently called "Open Key". Personally I was already using Mix In Key and it's Camelot notation so I took a closer look at this new system and noticed that it is a one-to-one relationship (8A=1m, 9A=2m, ect.) but the numbers start on different keys. Since I am going to be switching to Traktor's key detection system now, I needed a new Camelot wheel to reference. I searched the web and didn't find any thing like this so I made one myself. I have attached the end result to the bottom, feel free to save it, print it out, stick it on things and graffiti it on government buildings.

By the way, I tryed to get the wheel colors to match the ones in Traktor
Registered just to download and say thanks!!!
Quintin Gregorian
10.04.2013
Hello,

Everything I read here so far was very helpful. Thank you.

I have a quiet silly question I hope you can help. I have Traktor Kontrol S2 and since I downloaded the latest version, on my computer under Key Text I have some tracks analyzed by the Camelot Wheel (A1, B1, A2..etc.. I previously done in Mixed in Key) and other tracks were analyzed by the new system (7m, 3d..etc..) but it only happened in a few folders and on Tractor only (so files were not re-written in the actual folder on the computer). This means that both types of analysis appears in Key Text column at the same time, one type per track.

I looked the settings - Analyze Options
Trang Partch
25.03.2013
Originally Posted by Buxton
I believe it's from "Dur" and "Moll" from the German equivalent terms for Major and Minor. (Going by what I picked up from the http://www.beatunes.com/open-key-notation.html link someone gave earlier)
Yep, as german native speaker I confirm the german terms, and therefore I believe your are spot on. At least that's also my interpretation of 'm' and 'd' in this context.
Napoleon Oberkrom
23.03.2013
I believe it's from "Dur" and "Moll" from the German equivalent terms for Major and Minor. (Going by what I picked up from the http://www.beatunes.com/open-key-notation.html link someone gave earlier)
Bea Brigham
23.03.2013
Awesome, a key for keys

Would I be right to assume that the outside circle denotes majors and the inside circle is minors? Because m = minor and d = major according to Traktor?
Hyo Burkowski
14.03.2013
Awesome, thanks for everyones hard work and sharing with the community
Bridget Liner
12.03.2013
Thanks for the wheel!!!
Daisy Mitri
28.02.2013
Hey Robert and efekoo , thanks way cool! Here's a little fix on the typo OpenKeysTraktor.jpg .Cheers
Roy Houn
28.02.2013
so basically, on the camelot wheel it says 1a, 1b, 2a, 2b and says like you can mix 2a with 3a or 1a etc its just the same for traktor but its 1m, 1d, 2m, 2d etc so 3m will go with 2m, or 4m etc?
Bernice Sroufe
28.02.2013
wulfman did u make a new wheel?
Delfina Suedmeyer
27.02.2013
Originally Posted by efekoo
Hello Robert,

This thread was the reason why I registered to DjTechTools.

I thank you deeply for the image you created.

Also, a friend of mine enhanced the image for all Traktor lovers to use it.

Thank you sincerely,

Attachment 16063
There is an error with the inner circle for keys A & E. they are showing 1d and 2d when it should be 1m and 2m.
Karri Mcquagge
27.02.2013
Thanks for the new chart, i was looking something like this! Thanks!
Blake Ghany
26.02.2013
Awesome! It looks like there may be two typos though - the smaller "1d" and "2d" should be "1m" and "2m," right?
Blake Ghany
26.02.2013
Thanks a ton!
Khadijah Bucker
26.02.2013
i really cant get it working, when i analyse a track it doesnt write any info
Valeri Millstein
26.02.2013
Smooth.
Rosann Chestney
26.02.2013
Thanks for the conversion chart, this is exactly what I was looking for!
Dick Korus
26.02.2013
Thank you!!!! I'm going to print this and hang it up
Emelina Chillson
26.02.2013
/anhero!
Kandi Odom
26.02.2013
Originally Posted by Robert Wulfman
In Traktor's most recent update (2.6.1 for those of you in the future), key detection was added using a new notation apparently called "Open Key". Personally I was already using Mix In Key and it's Camelot notation so I took a closer look at this new system and noticed that it is a one-to-one relationship (8A=1m, 9A=2m, ect.) but the numbers start on different keys. Since I am going to be switching to Traktor's key detection system now, I needed a new Camelot wheel to reference. I searched the web and didn't find any thing like this so I made one myself. I have attached the end result to the bottom, feel free to save it, print it out, stick it on things and graffiti it on government buildings.

By the way, I tryed to get the wheel colors to match the ones in Traktor

Thx a lot!!!!!!!!!!
Nestor Dor
26.02.2013
Originally Posted by Robert Wulfman
In Traktor's most recent update (2.6.1 for those of you in the future), key detection was added using a new notation apparently called "Open Key". Personally I was already using Mix In Key and it's Camelot notation so I took a closer look at this new system and noticed that it is a one-to-one relationship (8A=1m, 9A=2m, ect.) but the numbers start on different keys. Since I am going to be switching to Traktor's key detection system now, I needed a new Camelot wheel to reference. I searched the web and didn't find any thing like this so I made one myself. I have attached the end result to the bottom, feel free to save it, print it out, stick it on things and graffiti it on government buildings.

By the way, I tryed to get the wheel colors to match the ones in Traktor
Hello Robert,

This thread was the reason why I registered to DjTechTools.

I thank you deeply for the image you created.

Also, a friend of mine enhanced the image for all Traktor lovers to use it.

Thank you sincerely,

OpenKeysTraktor.jpg
Remedios Cario
24.02.2013
Thanks! I was actually going to do this today but never got around to it
Cristina Hoston
24.02.2013
Huh, and it looks like I forgot to add musical keys for the inner ring on mine. I'll upload a new version.
Kandra Fagler
24.02.2013
here iz a link to a website with the same info - its out there

http://www.beatunes.com/open-key-notation.html

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