CDJ-2000 looks like it has been discontinued- time for the CDJ-2000 Nexus speculation So it looks like the CDJ-2000 is officially discontinued according to a few sources and the CDJ-2000 Nexus will be released in April.
Have any photos or details been leaked? I'm hoping for better screens and scrolling waveforms. What else could they add?
http://excessiverecordsdjshop.blogspot.com/
PIONEER PRO DJ NEW PRODUCT UPDATE 2012
PIONEER PRO DJ NEW PRODUCT UPDATE 2012.
CDJ 2000 DISCONTINUED , REPLACED BY CDJ 2000 NEXUS. [ AVAILABLE IN April 2012 ]
DJM 700 DISCONTINUED , REPLACED BY DJM 850. [ Details coming soon ]
HDJ 1000 DISCONTINUED , REPLACED BY HDJ 1500 in SILVER and BLACK 2 COLORS SELECTION [ AVAILABLE IN April 2012 ]
DJM 250 [ AVAILABLE IN March or April 2012 ]
*remarks, PRICE will be announce soon.
STAY TUNE FOR SPEC UPDATE.
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Shalon Jaranilla
06.09.2012 |
Originally Posted by photojojo
And I'm at least as old probably.
Yes, 42 in one month. So can i please have my sync |
Leeanna Ayla
06.09.2012 |
Originally Posted by souldancer
Yes you sound old, i might be older
And I'm at least as old probably. |
Shalon Jaranilla
06.09.2012 |
Originally Posted by Shishdisma
This post sums up exactly why I hate most DJs in my area, and feature creep in general. "I'm too lazy to learn how to do something that requires skill, so it's pretty great that there's a product that can just do it for me!" It's not about "creativity" or "doing more than you could" it's a straight up removal of a technical barrier to entry, and one that is actively destroying an entire culture. I sound like a ranting old asshole right now, but just cruising around my town last weekend I witnessed a plethora of beat synced audio train wrecks, due to people who aren't required have any technical skill to "mix."
Yes you sound old, i might be older |
Nancey Inderlied
05.09.2012 |
Originally Posted by LoopCat
The fact that you're hearing train wrecks from people using beat sync shows that it doesn't do all the work for you, so really its not cheating. The guys that are good and are using sync will make a good set and the lazy guys that believe they are good will still sound like shit. There are plenty of DJ's that get gigs that believe they can manually beat match while using beat counters on Pioneer gear but couldn't mix out of a vinyl for shit! So should we ban beat counters?
The best thing about DJing at the moment in my opinion is all the different ways you can express your self through technology. You can spin a record on a pair of 1200's or you can do a live set on a midi fighter in Ableton or use CDJ's. Why would you want to take a step backwards when there is so much fun and innovation coming from these technologies.
Beatmatching is one of approximately seven different characteristics of a transition, but the only one that is "technically" required to mix "smoothly." People who take the time to listen and learn about tempo and phase often actually listen, something that is mostly far beyond the average sync DJ. Being forced to listen to at least phase requires to you monitor and pay attention to your mix, syncing requires neither. I've seen more than one sync DJ mix without headphones, fader slamming synced tracks and finding that quite acceptable. Without sync, they would be forced to actually use their ears, a talent seems to be long lost on the average teenage twat with a controller.
A beat counter or meter is more of a tool, since it isn't automated, you still can't check phase without listening. And any competent CDJ user knows how to work a pitch fader blind, even if they've only ever used a BPM counter (hint: do some quick math before your set.) |
Ming Devis
05.09.2012 |
Originally Posted by Shishdisma
This post sums up exactly why I hate most DJs in my area, and feature creep in general. "I'm too lazy to learn how to do something that requires skill, so it's pretty great that there's a product that can just do it for me!" It's not about "creativity" or "doing more than you could" it's a straight up removal of a technical barrier to entry, and one that is actively destroying an entire culture. I sound like a ranting old asshole right now, but just cruising around my town last weekend I witnessed a plethora of beat synced audio train wrecks, due to people who aren't required have any technical skill to "mix."
The fact that you're hearing train wrecks from people using beat sync shows that it doesn't do all the work for you, so really its not cheating. The guys that are good and are using sync will make a good set and the lazy guys that believe they are good will still sound like shit. There are plenty of DJ's that get gigs that believe they can manually beat match while using beat counters on Pioneer gear but couldn't mix out of a vinyl for shit! So should we ban beat counters?
The best thing about DJing at the moment in my opinion is all the different ways you can express your self through technology. You can spin a record on a pair of 1200's or you can do a live set on a midi fighter in Ableton or use CDJ's. Why would you want to take a step backwards when there is so much fun and innovation coming from these technologies. |
Nancey Inderlied
05.09.2012 |
Originally Posted by souldancer
The sync button is just a smart move, there is a whole new generation that learned to dj with software, including some of the rising star dj producers. And i'm going to push the hell out of that button. I love sync I can do tempo changes with mixes that never would sound as good without sync.
This post sums up exactly why I hate most DJs in my area, and feature creep in general. "I'm too lazy to learn how to do something that requires skill, so it's pretty great that there's a product that can just do it for me!" It's not about "creativity" or "doing more than you could" it's a straight up removal of a technical barrier to entry, and one that is actively destroying an entire culture. I sound like a ranting old asshole right now, but just cruising around my town last weekend I witnessed a plethora of beat synced audio train wrecks, due to people who aren't required have any technical skill to "mix." |
Jessi Therkildsen
05.09.2012 |
Originally Posted by brichi
well I was told on the pio community
"""08:00 GMT 6th Sept 2012."""" which, If my calculations are corrects being that I am EST""" is 4am my time, approximately 9 hours away... And yes, I was a loser too watching it at 1am, LOL
Do you know what the link is going to be? |
Jessi Therkildsen
05.09.2012 |
Originally Posted by brichi
nice, only hours away now,
Are they doing a countdown? I don't see anything about it on any of their websites. Last time their entire website shut down and they had a countdown dedicated to it (I watched it live like a loser even though it was 1AM on a workevening
). |
Hyman Werness
05.09.2012 | Screen Shot 2012-09-05 at 3.29.09 PM.jpg |
Shantae Faile
05.09.2012 |
Originally Posted by wampaone
This is the confirmed new player whatever it will be called... from Pioneer's own mouth.
now if i can figure out how to paste a screenshot from the message i had with them via facebook...
print screen or cmd+Shift+3 on a mac. paste it in paint if your in windows and save or in mac itll be saved to the desktop |
Shalon Jaranilla
06.09.2012 |
Originally Posted by photojojo
And I'm at least as old probably.
Yes, 42 in one month. So can i please have my sync |
Leeanna Ayla
06.09.2012 |
Originally Posted by souldancer
Yes you sound old, i might be older
And I'm at least as old probably. |
Shalon Jaranilla
06.09.2012 |
Originally Posted by Shishdisma
This post sums up exactly why I hate most DJs in my area, and feature creep in general. "I'm too lazy to learn how to do something that requires skill, so it's pretty great that there's a product that can just do it for me!" It's not about "creativity" or "doing more than you could" it's a straight up removal of a technical barrier to entry, and one that is actively destroying an entire culture. I sound like a ranting old asshole right now, but just cruising around my town last weekend I witnessed a plethora of beat synced audio train wrecks, due to people who aren't required have any technical skill to "mix."
Yes you sound old, i might be older |
Leeanna Ayla
06.09.2012 | Let's please move the discussion to the new thread please.
http://community
.djranking
s.com/showthr...t=57423&page=7
I've moved relevant posts after the the player announcement to that thread. |
Ming Devis
05.09.2012 | I would argue using EQ ing properly and knowing where to drop a track into another requires technique and skill and knowledge of the music your playing, which the later is the most important part of a smooth mix. Beat matching is just the hardest skill to pick up initially but pretty simple once you know how to do it. Sync just free's up time to do more with a track and to help with the beat matching just like the beat counters did.
Anyway pioneer will have sync on their flag ship gear at some stage so the end is near for all the 'real' DJ's . |
Nancey Inderlied
05.09.2012 |
Originally Posted by LoopCat
The fact that you're hearing train wrecks from people using beat sync shows that it doesn't do all the work for you, so really its not cheating. The guys that are good and are using sync will make a good set and the lazy guys that believe they are good will still sound like shit. There are plenty of DJ's that get gigs that believe they can manually beat match while using beat counters on Pioneer gear but couldn't mix out of a vinyl for shit! So should we ban beat counters?
The best thing about DJing at the moment in my opinion is all the different ways you can express your self through technology. You can spin a record on a pair of 1200's or you can do a live set on a midi fighter in Ableton or use CDJ's. Why would you want to take a step backwards when there is so much fun and innovation coming from these technologies.
Beatmatching is one of approximately seven different characteristics of a transition, but the only one that is "technically" required to mix "smoothly." People who take the time to listen and learn about tempo and phase often actually listen, something that is mostly far beyond the average sync DJ. Being forced to listen to at least phase requires to you monitor and pay attention to your mix, syncing requires neither. I've seen more than one sync DJ mix without headphones, fader slamming synced tracks and finding that quite acceptable. Without sync, they would be forced to actually use their ears, a talent seems to be long lost on the average teenage twat with a controller.
A beat counter or meter is more of a tool, since it isn't automated, you still can't check phase without listening. And any competent CDJ user knows how to work a pitch fader blind, even if they've only ever used a BPM counter (hint: do some quick math before your set.) |
Ming Devis
05.09.2012 |
Originally Posted by Shishdisma
This post sums up exactly why I hate most DJs in my area, and feature creep in general. "I'm too lazy to learn how to do something that requires skill, so it's pretty great that there's a product that can just do it for me!" It's not about "creativity" or "doing more than you could" it's a straight up removal of a technical barrier to entry, and one that is actively destroying an entire culture. I sound like a ranting old asshole right now, but just cruising around my town last weekend I witnessed a plethora of beat synced audio train wrecks, due to people who aren't required have any technical skill to "mix."
The fact that you're hearing train wrecks from people using beat sync shows that it doesn't do all the work for you, so really its not cheating. The guys that are good and are using sync will make a good set and the lazy guys that believe they are good will still sound like shit. There are plenty of DJ's that get gigs that believe they can manually beat match while using beat counters on Pioneer gear but couldn't mix out of a vinyl for shit! So should we ban beat counters?
The best thing about DJing at the moment in my opinion is all the different ways you can express your self through technology. You can spin a record on a pair of 1200's or you can do a live set on a midi fighter in Ableton or use CDJ's. Why would you want to take a step backwards when there is so much fun and innovation coming from these technologies. |
Nancey Inderlied
05.09.2012 |
Originally Posted by souldancer
The sync button is just a smart move, there is a whole new generation that learned to dj with software, including some of the rising star dj producers. And i'm going to push the hell out of that button. I love sync I can do tempo changes with mixes that never would sound as good without sync.
This post sums up exactly why I hate most DJs in my area, and feature creep in general. "I'm too lazy to learn how to do something that requires skill, so it's pretty great that there's a product that can just do it for me!" It's not about "creativity" or "doing more than you could" it's a straight up removal of a technical barrier to entry, and one that is actively destroying an entire culture. I sound like a ranting old asshole right now, but just cruising around my town last weekend I witnessed a plethora of beat synced audio train wrecks, due to people who aren't required have any technical skill to "mix." |
Alfredo Tooher
05.09.2012 | no, im assuming it will be on their site, or one of their FB pages that we can "LIKE" |
Jessi Therkildsen
05.09.2012 |
Originally Posted by brichi
well I was told on the pio community
"""08:00 GMT 6th Sept 2012."""" which, If my calculations are corrects being that I am EST""" is 4am my time, approximately 9 hours away... And yes, I was a loser too watching it at 1am, LOL
Do you know what the link is going to be? |
Alfredo Tooher
05.09.2012 | well I was told on the pio community
"""08:00 GMT 6th Sept 2012."""" which, If my calculations are corrects being that I am EST""" is 4am my time, approximately 9 hours away... And yes, I was a loser too watching it at 1am, LOL |
Jessi Therkildsen
05.09.2012 |
Originally Posted by brichi
nice, only hours away now,
Are they doing a countdown? I don't see anything about it on any of their websites. Last time their entire website shut down and they had a countdown dedicated to it (I watched it live like a loser even though it was 1AM on a workevening
). |
Alfredo Tooher
05.09.2012 | nice, only hours away now, |
Hyman Werness
05.09.2012 | yeah i know how to make a screen shot, it's just every time i save a duplicate, i can't get it any bigger... but you get the idea if you can read it! |
Hyman Werness
05.09.2012 | can't figure out why it's so small... |
Hyman Werness
05.09.2012 | Screen Shot 2012-09-05 at 3.29.09 PM.jpg |
Shantae Faile
05.09.2012 |
Originally Posted by wampaone
This is the confirmed new player whatever it will be called... from Pioneer's own mouth.
now if i can figure out how to paste a screenshot from the message i had with them via facebook...
print screen or cmd+Shift+3 on a mac. paste it in paint if your in windows and save or in mac itll be saved to the desktop |
Craig Kosloff
05.09.2012 | Prnt screen |
Hyman Werness
05.09.2012 | This is the confirmed new player whatever it will be called... from Pioneer's own mouth.
now if i can figure out how to paste a screenshot from the message i had with them via facebook... |
Felipe Rasper
05.09.2012 |
Originally Posted by souldancer
The sync button is just a smart move, there is a whole new generation that learned to dj with software, including some of the rising star dj producers. And i'm going to push the hell out of that button. I love sync I can do tempo changes with mixes that never would sound as good without sync.
Indeed! just what i taught! |
Ossie Pooley
05.09.2012 |
Originally Posted by souldancer
The sync button is just a smart move, there is a whole new generation that learned to dj with software, including some of the rising star dj producers. And i'm going to push the hell out of that button. I love sync I can do tempo changes with mixes that never would sound as good without sync.
Agreed. No one's forcing you to use the sync button. It's there if you want it, really. I believe that between sync and slip you can do a lot of good tricks with these. |
Shalon Jaranilla
05.09.2012 | The sync button is just a smart move, there is a whole new generation that learned to dj with software, including some of the rising star dj producers. And i'm going to push the hell out of that button. I love sync I can do tempo changes with mixes that never would sound as good without sync. |
Alfredo Tooher
04.09.2012 |
Originally Posted by wampaone
Brichi did you catch the lead page djranking
s did today of the leak pic? They quoted me son posted a copy of my thread comment... And mentioned hedgehog.... I felt cool for all of 5 minutes!
Haha I did! Nice! Can't wait for the new decks. Im always looking for new toys. I definitely have to throw some pics up of the led mods I did. They're somewhere around the community
s, will repost some tomorrow. |
Hyman Werness
04.09.2012 | Brichi did you catch the lead page djranking
s did today of the leak pic? They quoted me son posted a copy of my thread comment... And mentioned hedgehog.... I felt cool for all of 5 minutes! |
Ming Devis
04.09.2012 | Yeah really if you don't want to use it don't touch it. I own Traktor and only use sync if I'm layering more than two tracks on top of each other. When I'm beat matching manually the sync button is right there but I don't even believe about using it. It's an awesome tool for freeing up time to do new things beyond blending two tracks together. If Pioneer don't implement it they will be left in the dust soon |
Hyman Werness
04.09.2012 |
Originally Posted by brichi
I agree wampaone, I hate the cdj and djm colors, thats one of the reasons why i changed them all did blue, purple, reds and whites all over, looks 100x better then the original, in my opinion anyway, and anyone else who sees them
Brichi!! I was wondering when you were gonna chime in homie!! You will have to show me a those pics of your mods and how you did it!!! |
Alfredo Tooher
04.09.2012 | I am an old school DJ too, 25 years and counting and I could care less if there's a sync button, just cause it's there doesnt mean you have to use it, put some tape over it, problem solved or maybe Pioneer should put a setting in the menu to disable it if it really bothers people that much, lol |
Leeanna Ayla
04.09.2012 |
Originally Posted by lucasmanning
I really hope the sync button on the new 2000s is just a rumor
Why? |
Alfredo Tooher
04.09.2012 |
Originally Posted by wampaone
I also hope they ditch the orange and green.... maybe red and dark purple or aqua... is that odd?
I agree wampaone, I hate the cdj and djm colors, thats one of the reasons why i changed them all did blue, purple, reds and whites all over, looks 100x better then the original, in my opinion anyway, and anyone else who sees them |
Hyman Werness
04.09.2012 | I also hope they ditch the orange and green.... maybe red and dark purple or aqua... is that odd? |
