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Alienware for music?
Posted on: 16.12.2013 by Vikki Falkenrath
Is the best macbook better in anything then an Alienware Intel i7 4800/3,7 GHz/1,5Tb HDD + 80Gb SSD ?
For music purposes obviously.

PS: I really prefer windows than mac.
Camille Scillieri
18.12.2013
Could get an MSI for cheaper with as good if not better performance than an Alienware machine.
Letitia Sehlhorst
18.12.2013
http://www.reddit.com/r/buildapc

post there, give them a budget and what you intend to use the computer for, they'll post you a build

fancy cooling systems are not needed unless you are overclocking and/or running multiple GPUs

you don't need a discrete GPU for an audio computer

Alienware computers are incredibly overpriced
Alphonso Deitchman
18.12.2013
There's no need for a discrete GPU for audio/general usage so you could save even more by leaving it out.
Jetta Drenzek
18.12.2013
Building your own system is ridiculously easy. You need the following:

A case
A PSU
A motherboard
a CPU
a GPU
a Hard drive
RAM
Network card for internet(I don;t have a wired modem port, my desktop has a WLAN PCI-E card).

You screw the motherboard into the case (All motherboards are made in certain sizes, micro-ATX, Mini-ATX, ATX, E-ATX. An ATX will probably be what your after. Make sure you have a case that fits it, line up the screw holes, done. Then it's pretty much just plug and play, your CPU goes in the big square that says "CPU", and then the cooler supplied with it clicks on top, your HDD slots into a HDD bay then plugs into a SATA on the MOBO, Your GPU plugs into one of the PCI slots, your RAM plugs into the RAM slots, then you just screw in your PSU and connect power to the CPU, the GPU, the HDD and the motherboard. Also plug your case fans in if your case has any, and that's it. Once you've done it a few times it's so easy you can do it with your eyes closed, everything is designed to be idiot proof.

Anyways, it's a different story for a different time, a quick search on instructables will open you to a wealth of guies and if you ask on a site like Tom's Hardware they can help you find the power your need for the budget you have.
Vikki Falkenrath
18.12.2013
Originally Posted by makar1
The Alienware notebooks have CPUs with almost twice the TDP of most laptops, as such they are also twice the size/weight, and have half the battery life.

High end notebooks aren't needed for the majority of audio applications so unless you need the power for something else, I'd go for something lighter.
Yea I agree, but I love brute performance hehe
My friend bought one and said no matter what you do it wont even hiccup, its far beyond what you need for processing anything in this decade.
Alphonso Deitchman
18.12.2013
Originally Posted by Daniboy
I'm saying iMacs because macbooks don't get close in performance compared to alienware notebooks
The Alienware notebooks have CPUs with almost twice the TDP of most laptops, as such they are also twice the size/weight, and have less than half the battery life.

High end notebooks aren't needed for the majority of audio applications so unless you need the power for something else, I'd go for something lighter.
Vikki Falkenrath
18.12.2013
Originally Posted by Daily Crisis
Not at all. Just watch some videos and there you go I'll link you some. I worked it out and it's about
Alycia Niederriter
18.12.2013
Originally Posted by Daniboy
I wish I could, I see people saying it all the time, is it too hard to do?

The cooling system must be hard for beginners, if you mess it up the shit will burn
Not at all. Just watch some videos and there you go I'll link you some. I worked it out and it's about
Vikki Falkenrath
18.12.2013
Originally Posted by makar1
If you're looking at desktops, you'd be better off building your own for Windows.
I'm saying iMacs because macbooks don't get close in performance compared to alienware notebooks
Alphonso Deitchman
18.12.2013
Originally Posted by Daniboy
I thought Alienware were cheaper than iMacs
If you're looking at desktops, you'd be better off building your own for Windows.
Vikki Falkenrath
18.12.2013
Originally Posted by makar1
Alienware is a waste of money for nearly all applications though. The NVIDIA card will be completely useless for production and will drain your battery as well as your wallet.
I thought Alienware were cheaper than iMacs
Vikki Falkenrath
18.12.2013
Originally Posted by Daily Crisis
IMO both are overpriced lol, build your own much more fun and cheaper...
I wish I could, I see people saying it all the time, is it too hard to do?

The cooling system must be hard for beginners, if you mess it up the shit will burn
Alphonso Deitchman
18.12.2013
Originally Posted by nem0nic
NATIVE WINDOWS AUDIO is not nearly as compelling as OSX, that's for sure. But as a DJ, you're almost NEVER using the windows audio handling - you're using an ASIO driver. And those drivers are almost always highly optimized and perform well (when they aren't, it's usually because you're using bargain basement gear).

Just to be clear.
I believe it was clear that it was ASIO on Windows being referenced, not the use of WDM/WASAPI drivers (which I actually find to be more stable/reliable than ASIO, despite the latency). OSX's CoreAudio is still a better solution as it has the best of both.

Alienware is a waste of money for nearly all applications though. The NVIDIA card will be completely useless for production and will drain your battery as well as your wallet.
Alycia Niederriter
18.12.2013
IMO both are overpriced lol, build your own much more fun and cheaper...
Vikki Falkenrath
18.12.2013
Originally Posted by Ozei
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Audio_Stream_Input/Output

In other words, ASIO bypasses OS's native audio handling, so you get kinda "straight path" from DAW/other application to hardware (audio interface) which reduces latency and may increase audio quality.

Your 2i2 should come with ASIO drivers/you should be able to download them from Scarlett's website. If you don't have ASIO drivers yet, get them! If 2i2 doesn't have interface-specific ASIO, get ASIO4ALL (or get better audio interface lol ).
yea, I downloaded the latest 2i2 driver from their site. So thats why I bought it, its my guarantee that whatever lame pc I have I would always have good sound coming from it and my audio softwares would always work nice.
After installing it, Traktor's "Load bar" doesnt even gets close to the middle.

So Alienware + my 2i2 and I'm ready to kick some macbook ass hehehe
Arielle Goodling
18.12.2013
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Audio_Stream_Input/Output

In other words, ASIO bypasses OS's native audio handling, so you get kinda "straight path" from DAW/other application to hardware (audio interface) which reduces latency and may increase audio quality.

Your 2i2 should come with ASIO drivers/you should be able to download them from Scarlett's website. If you don't have ASIO drivers yet, get them! If 2i2 doesn't have interface-specific ASIO, get ASIO4ALL (or get better audio interface lol ).
Vikki Falkenrath
17.12.2013
Originally Posted by nem0nic
NATIVE WINDOWS AUDIO is not nearly as compelling as OSX, that's for sure. But as a DJ, you're almost NEVER using the windows audio handling - you're using an ASIO driver. And those drivers are almost always highly optimized and perform well (when they aren't, it's usually because you're using bargain basement gear).

Just to be clear.
What is an ASIO driver?
I use a audio interface scarlett 2i2 on my notebook, does it has something to do with it?
Diogo Dj Dragão
17.12.2013
Windows audio handling is coded by monkeys and will always be second to OS X in that respect.
NATIVE WINDOWS AUDIO is not nearly as compelling as OSX, that's for sure. But as a DJ, you're almost NEVER using the windows audio handling - you're using an ASIO driver. And those drivers are almost always highly optimized and perform well (when they aren't, it's usually because you're using bargain basement gear).

Just to be clear.
Jetta Drenzek
17.12.2013
Doesn't matter how powerful your 'puter is, Windows audio handling is coded by monkeys and will always be second to OS X in that respect. I use a
Diogo Dj Dragão
17.12.2013
Alienware computers are great for production. Unless you opt for the Bigfoot wireless package, you'll still have to turn off WiFi while running DJ or production apps, but otherwise they're beastly computers.

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