Pioneer DDJ - SX, first "serato dj" controller

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Pioneer DDJ - SX, first "serato dj" controller
Posted on: 02.10.2012 by Janella Gripe
So, I just read an article on ddjt where they say that Pioneer is working on a new controller for the newest serato software. The controller will be launched on the first of November. Here are some specifications from the new controller.



1. Performance pads. Similar to the Novation TWITCH and the Vestax VCI-380 (and velocity-sensitive, like the latter), the controller’s performance pads will control samples, cues, loop rolls and a slicer

2. “Dual Deck” mode. This will apparently let you link two decks (ie A&C, B&D) and manipulate them as one

3. 4-channel standalone hardware mixer. Like the Vestax VCI-400 (finally), the unit will also work as an analogue mixer

4. Slip mode. Slip mode lets you manipulate the track (scratching, looping, triggering cue points), then when you exit slip mode, the track will continue where it would have been before you began. It’s a popular feature on CDJs from Pioneer and Denon

5. Other high-end features. Fader start, dedicated filter knobs and large platters point to this being very much a pro controller, that ought to appeal to those playing out as much as bedroom DJs. Assuming it has decent microphone ins and balanced/booth outputs, that is…
(source: http://www.digitaldjtips.com/2012/10...o-dj-software/)

So, what do you believe? A new ground-breaking product or another regular dj-controller?

You can always post some new updates of information about the new controller in this thread.
Lauretta Ehrhorn
03.10.2012		Just banged stickers all over my Twitch as i'd given up on Itch and hated the loose overlay when using Traktor. Looks like I'll be peeling them all of again in 2013. Serato had to do something and i'm intrigued, particularly by Izotope involvement.
Everette Akhtar
03.10.2012		0_0 i bought a mixtrack pro last month, wish the info for this came out first >_< i totally would have waited for one. This thing looks epic.
Janyce Henningson
03.10.2012
Originally Posted by tokenasianguy
So you just need the certified controller to "install" the software the first time, and then you can use any secondary controller?
No the controller has to be plugged in to make the software work properly.
Adding a secondary controller is exactly that - a second controller.
Darlene Strohbeck
03.10.2012
Originally Posted by fullenglishpint
It means it works as serato products always have, the certified controller needs to be plugged in to unlock the software. Same with ITCH, same with scratch live.
So you just need the certified controller to "install" the software the first time, and then you can use any secondary controller?
Rolanda Clodfelder
03.10.2012
Originally Posted by giorgio1712
Does anyone know if the tempo faders will be high res?
The DDJ-S1 is accurate to .01 bpm and imagine this unit will be the same

For reference the CDJ900 is .02 bpm
Cristine Stele
03.10.2012		Does anyone know if the tempo faders will be high res?
Jerica Salava
03.10.2012
Originally Posted by deevey
Its a gorgeous controller that would look and perform well in the Bedroom, Radio station or Mobile Dj gigs but from a practical standpoint of being able to transition exactly what you are used to doing at home to the standard club DJ box - not very,

It is a shame because I though the Idea of the Aero was superb in that it allows you to make the transition between the studio > club easy as hell without spending 4k on CDJ's and a mixer. The build / layout though of the SX looks amazing in comparison but lacks that ability.

However if they brought out a modular version of the deck areas alone ..... guess I should buy a hacksaw :P
i hear you.

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Tatum Ansaldo
03.10.2012
Originally Posted by tokenasianguy
I was excited about the "midi mapping" until I read this: While you can use MIDI mapping to get functionality on secondary controllers, you
Rolanda Clodfelder
03.10.2012
Originally Posted by loverocket
so what you're saying is: it's a gorgeous controller that would look nice in your bedroom.
Its a gorgeous controller that would look and perform well in the Bedroom, Radio station or Mobile Dj gigs but from a practical standpoint of being able to transition exactly what you are used to doing at home to the standard club DJ box - not very,

It is a shame because I though the Idea of the Aero was superb in that it allows you to make the transition between the studio > club easy as hell without spending 4k on CDJ's and a mixer. The build / layout though of the SX looks amazing in comparison but lacks that ability.

However if they brought out a modular version of the deck areas alone ..... guess I should buy a hacksaw :P
Jerica Salava
03.10.2012
Originally Posted by deevey
Gah! ... LOVE IT

Honetly its the tastiest controller I believe I've ever seen and with a decent price, even if this was bloody Reloop it would be a good price given the feature set, but its Pioneer FFS.

Given that its too big for lugging around for the occasional set, and honestly don't see it being an install piece of kit with all the new toys coming out though its becoming harder to perform your "routine" at a club the same as you would at home without bringing a ton of shit with you.

  • Roll on a V7 alike version of the SX that can be used alongside CDJ's in a club
  • Roll on a Serato Ipad app so we dont need to lug laptops
  • Roll on reliable computers INSTALLED in clubs for whatever system(s) are in use and a simple method of plugging and playing.
  • Roll on standardized playlist formats across all DJ software for exporting to whatever happens to be installed.


Congrats to Pioneer though, in just a few months we've seen some serious innovation, game changers (IMHO) and quite literally "something for everyone" from Complete DJ Newbie to Seasoned Pro.

No Complaints from me apart from the price of CDJ's and I believe they missed a trick by not adding dual USB connectors.
so what you're saying is: it's a gorgeous controller that would look nice in your bedroom.
Nicola Oatts
04.10.2012		anyone wana buy a vci 400se? :P
Kellie Myrum
04.10.2012
Originally Posted by tokenasianguy
I was excited about the "midi mapping" until I read this: While you can use MIDI mapping to get functionality on secondary controllers, you’ll have to have a primary one plugged in to get the software behaving properly.

WTF does that mean? I can use a secondary controller as long as my DDJ-SX is always connected?! Doesn't that completely defeat the purpose?!
HID sounds
Darlene Strohbeck
04.10.2012		I was excited about the "midi mapping" until I read this: While you can use MIDI mapping to get functionality on secondary controllers, you
Shonda Soulier
04.10.2012
Originally Posted by SlayForMoney
Props to Pio/Serato

Price seems to be ok. Stil believe 200$ is too much for upgrade from Intro to Serato DJ...
Isn't Serato DJ Intro free?
Isa Erik
04.10.2012		Props to Pio/Serato

Price seems to be ok. Stil believe 200$ is too much for upgrade from Intro to Serato DJ...
Wesley Szigeti
03.10.2012		Looks sweet and if I used Serato I'd get one in a heartbeat(pending a review or two). But I'm on Traktor and in love with my VCI-400 EGE
Rolanda Clodfelder
03.10.2012		Gah! ... LOVE IT

Honetly its the tastiest controller I believe I've ever seen and with a decent price, even if this was bloody Reloop it would be a good price given the feature set, but its Pioneer FFS.

Given that its too big for lugging around for the occasional set, and honestly don't see it being an install piece of kit with all the new toys coming out though its becoming harder to perform your "routine" at a club the same as you would at home without bringing a ton of shit with you.

  • Roll on a V7 alike version of the SX that can be used alongside CDJ's in a club
  • Roll on a Serato Ipad app so we dont need to lug laptops
  • Roll on reliable computers INSTALLED in clubs for whatever system(s) are in use and a simple method of plugging and playing.
  • Roll on standardized playlist formats across all DJ software for exporting to whatever happens to be installed.


Congrats to Pioneer though, in just a few months we've seen some serious innovation, game changers (IMHO) and quite literally "something for everyone" from Complete DJ Newbie to Seasoned Pro.

No Complaints from me apart from the price of CDJ's and I believe they missed a trick by not adding dual USB connectors.
Breanne Penge
03.10.2012
Originally Posted by brocklambert
Too bad it will likely be ridiculously overpriced. I'm guessing $1,399 street price.
"the Pioneer DDJ-SX will come in at $1199/
Mac Fly
03.10.2012		Take the mixer portion out of the controller, and I envision how I predicted the CDJ will eventually look. With no CD input.
Edwina Fagel
03.10.2012		I never say that "this or that" looks like a toy.
Put the DDJSX just doesn't give me the confidence with cramped decks.
Altrough, for 999€ maybe, for 1500€ never.

03.10.2012		Too big (and not enough adoption of Itch) for clubs. Too expensive for most home setups. This is a niche product at best.
Kellie Myrum
03.10.2012		Don't know if lights are mappable unlike at S1 and T1 but slip mode can be mapped with a little believeery...
Hipolito Scionti
03.10.2012
Originally Posted by Stewe
Why not to use this unit and re-map it for traktor?
Are the platter lights mappable in traktor does anyone know? Slip mode etc... Also it'll just be midi rather than HID if you map it
Ashanti Andreacchio
03.10.2012
Originally Posted by DJZILCH
eh i want this but i wanna use traktor

so... is there a DDJ-TX along the line coming up??
That should not be a problem as far as I know it's midi. So just about anything should be mappable to traktor, not so sure about the Jog LED's though. I'm so sold to this
Kellie Myrum
03.10.2012
Originally Posted by DJZILCH
eh i want this but i wanna use traktor

so... is there a DDJ-TX along the line coming up??
Why not to use this unit and re-map it for traktor?
Jerica Salava
03.10.2012		they are charging for the software ??? $199 ? bad move. should be a sub $100 upgrade for DJ Intro users. They are trying to compete with Traktor.

This is why I feel the Pioneer AERO and the no laptop model is going to make a huge dent in the market.

You can easily get a nice controller and Traktor PRO 2 for half the price of this tank. Who is going to be lugging this to a gig?

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Kandra Fagler
03.10.2012		eh i want this but i wanna use traktor

so... is there a DDJ-TX along the line coming up??
Janyce Henningson
03.10.2012		Wow Pioneer have gone controller crazy the last couple of months.

I'd never buy another all-in-one but this appears to be the best yet - props to Pio/Serato
Kellie Myrum
03.10.2012		This one I want! But, wouldn't give up on traktor tho
Golda Sivertson
03.10.2012
Originally Posted by onetidd
S4 killer
i dont's believe so.

For me, it looks just like NS6 with dispalys in platters.
Oswaldo Appeldorn
03.10.2012		S4 killer
Hipolito Scionti
03.10.2012		This is why using iTunes to organise music is good cause if you want to switch software they almost all have iTunes integration to a degree. Course grids and cues are a pain but at least playlists are there.

Personally I like it but I won't switch back to serato.
Leeanna Ayla
03.10.2012
Originally Posted by loverocket
does this mean they are getting rid of ITCH?
Yes, confirmed by Serato.
Jerica Salava
03.10.2012		does this mean they are getting rid of ITCH?
Ashanti Andreacchio
03.10.2012		This screams BUY ME and I totaly want one, but do I realy want ro start using a new software? Restarted DJ'ing 3 years ago with VDJ last years switched to Traktor and looks like I'll be using Serato now or at least give it a try. Controller should be mappable to Traktor and I all ready have it all ampped out in my head. For $1200 I know I will get one for sure.
Jonathan Chiuchiolo
03.10.2012		I wouldn't call it groundbreaking as they have just used all the good elements of every controller that pre dates it and haven't actually created anything new, but I would say marked destroying at the RRP... why would anyone buy anything else in the foreseeable future? It's PIONEER and it looks like they are taking controllers seriously finally.
Janella Gripe
03.10.2012		First of all, I first saw the picture on digital dj tips and couldn't find it on any other site so I used it from their site. Secondly, I made the thread before there was an article on the djtt-blog. The reason why the thread seems to be later then the blog is because I edited the post (I inserted the picture).

But it doesn't matter who was first or from where I took the photo from. I made this thread to discuss about how "ground-breaking" Pioneer's new product could be...
Karry Sappington
03.10.2012
Originally Posted by VincentCools
The picture is coming from digital dj tips, djranking s uses these picture also in their article about serato dj
You speak like some guy/gal from another world with lots of attitude . N dude You are posting this on djtt community s not on any other. And the article had been posted already at 4:34 on this site while yours a lofty 18mins later. Cool it off man!
Kandra Fagler
03.10.2012		1199??????? oh shit i am so sold
Ulysses Vittetoe
03.10.2012		WOW check out the price.

Pioneer releases first DJ Controller designed for New Serato DJ software! 4-channels, 8 performance pads per deck, FX, Slip mode, more... http://bit.ly/QHkRo1
AVAILABLE EARLY NOVEMBER! (msrp $1,199)

^^straight from Pioneer DJ USA facebook

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