FL Studio UNDERrated ? Abelton OVERrated ?
FL Studio UNDERrated ? Abelton OVERrated ? Posted on: 15.10.2011 by Hillary Razdan I was talking to some friends about production they all use abelton and i use FL, and i got some slack for using FL studio. So the next day i was using ableton trial and after 8 hours locked in my room and getting a handle on abelton i believe abelton is overrated , there so much you have to get like the synths that cost $130 a piece. And i cant say because ive been using FL studio because i started producing a week ago. What do you guy believe sould try harder with abelton or stick FL studio.I dont know about you guys but FL is like looked down apon i believe , well thats just me rambling . | |
| Dorie Scelzo 17.10.2011 |
Originally Posted by MiL0
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| Dorie Scelzo 17.10.2011 |
Originally Posted by MiL0
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| Bettye Thuy 24.10.2011 |
Originally Posted by JoseIglesMusic
But you're absolutely crazy to believe you can judge Ableton after 8 hours, or that you have a good idea of the ins and outs of FL Studio within a week of using it. Also, don't look for 'what vst makes this sound'. With a few hours and research into oscillators, you'll find that you can get an incredible amount of sounds out of any vst. It's better to know few vsts intimately than have a library of vsts you have no idea how to use. Treat your program like a studio, learn it in and out. |
| Dorie Scelzo 17.10.2011 |
Originally Posted by MiL0
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| Arcelia Siebeneck 17.10.2011 |
Originally Posted by elio_xh
Regarding the topic; I started with Steinberg Cubase VST 3.1 back in 1998 and have stuck with it for 13 years. If I were starting from scratch, I'd definitely learn Ableton Live. Trouble is, I'm so set in my ways that anything apart from Cubase confuses the hell out of me! edit: and in the grand scheme of things, Ableton Live isn't that more 'professional' than FLStudio (how do you even define that?!) compared to Logic, Pro Tools and to a lesser degree Cubase. As far as functionality goes however, there all pretty much equal these days (show me a tune that you couldn't practically write in any particular sequencer... apart from certain tracker based glitch tunes of course). |
| Belen Wermes 17.10.2011 |
Originally Posted by JoseIglesMusic
i don't use it but i'm sure it's fine. i heard Justice claims they produced Cross almost if not entirely with garageband... i don't believe garageband is even as good as fruityloops is it? |
| Random X 16.10.2011 |
Originally Posted by MuzicFreq
Ableton did this from version 4 and up.... older FLs didn't . |
| Valentin Doong 16.10.2011 |
Originally Posted by MuzicFreq
Lol i got way more better things to do than troll on the internet haha |
| Stephnie Godbole 16.10.2011 |
Originally Posted by Dj Kave
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| Bettye Thuy 24.10.2011 |
Originally Posted by JoseIglesMusic
But you're absolutely crazy to believe you can judge Ableton after 8 hours, or that you have a good idea of the ins and outs of FL Studio within a week of using it. Also, don't look for 'what vst makes this sound'. With a few hours and research into oscillators, you'll find that you can get an incredible amount of sounds out of any vst. It's better to know few vsts intimately than have a library of vsts you have no idea how to use. Treat your program like a studio, learn it in and out. |
| Gonzalo Legrant 23.10.2011 | For me Live is the better one because it allows me to be much more creative in the production process. I've used FL for four years before switching to Live and ever since I haven't looked back. To answer your question Live isn't over rated and Fl studio isn't under rated I know lot's of producers who use both. |
| Cindie Brodskaya 18.10.2011 | I used FL Studio for ~2-3 years, and after making the switch to Ableton it was like having being blind and then having my eyes opened. In my opinion, Ableton >>>> FL Studio |
| Debrah Tintle 17.10.2011 | I've been using FL Studio since 2005, and I can say that it really is a great DAW with focus on getting things done fast. I recently switched to Mac and Ableton Live and Logic Pro for the mix and master. Live's workflow suits me better, and Logic just has so much better EQ's, compressors etc. FL Studio still has some neat features that I miss today, but whichever DAW you chose, I'm sure you'll be happy with it. They're all great. Most of the time, you're the weakest link and not the DAW. |
| Celine Surico 18.10.2011 | As many have stated, high end audio engines are very much the same so they only differentiator is the work flow for the DAWs today. So test them out and pick one or two you like. PS: I use Logic and Ableton Live, Logic has so many tools and superb MIDI editing and Live has a very natural work flow for quick production work. |
| Dorie Scelzo 17.10.2011 |
Originally Posted by MiL0
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| Arcelia Siebeneck 17.10.2011 |
Originally Posted by elio_xh
Regarding the topic; I started with Steinberg Cubase VST 3.1 back in 1998 and have stuck with it for 13 years. If I were starting from scratch, I'd definitely learn Ableton Live. Trouble is, I'm so set in my ways that anything apart from Cubase confuses the hell out of me! edit: and in the grand scheme of things, Ableton Live isn't that more 'professional' than FLStudio (how do you even define that?!) compared to Logic, Pro Tools and to a lesser degree Cubase. As far as functionality goes however, there all pretty much equal these days (show me a tune that you couldn't practically write in any particular sequencer... apart from certain tracker based glitch tunes of course). |
| Belen Wermes 17.10.2011 |
Originally Posted by JoseIglesMusic
i don't use it but i'm sure it's fine. i heard Justice claims they produced Cross almost if not entirely with garageband... i don't believe garageband is even as good as fruityloops is it? |
| Mandi Cocchiola 17.10.2011 | I like Ableton because the work flow is fast. You can get ideas down when you have them. And if you understand basic synthesis techniques you can make your own patches and own sounds. So you don't have to be like "Hmm what preset sounds good..." Fl Studio to me sounds cheap... It sounds like FL studio. Where apposed to Ableton which CAN if you know what you're doing, sound like a big studio production. |
| Random X 16.10.2011 |
Originally Posted by MuzicFreq
Ableton did this from version 4 and up.... older FLs didn't . |
| Valentin Doong 16.10.2011 |
Originally Posted by MuzicFreq
Lol i got way more better things to do than troll on the internet haha |
| Stephnie Godbole 16.10.2011 |
Originally Posted by Dj Kave
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| Valentin Doong 16.10.2011 |
Originally Posted by elio_xh
Overall, there's way more differen't ways you can apply (just one example) MIDI too your song structure. Way more. |
| Christel Croak 16.10.2011 |
Originally Posted by Dj Kave
I do believe FL Studio is under-rated, but Ableton Live isn't over-rated. They're both good, one doesn't have to be better than the other. |
| Valentin Doong 16.10.2011 | C'mon are you serious yo? FL studio is like amateur stuff dude, I believe everybody here first started out with that. Eventually, you upgrade to professional software such as Ableton. If you believe you can do more with FL Studio, then im guessing that you must have not really paid attention to the tutorials on youtube. Ableton is the shit. |
| Breana Singerman 15.10.2011 |
Originally Posted by MuzicFreq
Made my first release using nothing but Abletons native pluggins and a handfull of samples, that's it. No midi keyboard, no drum pads and no expensive VST. Only thing I would do different now is go back and swap out the EQs/Verbs/Comps for the new 3rd party ones I'm using now. The thing with Cubase/Logic/ProTools is that they were all over glorified tape machines to start with. More for recording, and not so much producing. But then Ableton came along and came out with a lot of innovative features that are now standard on most of those DAWs. Don't get me wrong, when I went to audio engineering school, we were all ProTools and I loved it and still do. But it was so cumbersome when compared to Ableton at the time for what I wanted to do. BUT if I was in an actual recording session I would go to ProTools in a heart beat as it's just more geared towards that. |
| Stephnie Godbole 15.10.2011 | I been messing around in both for years FL studio I love since it's pretty easy to use, like plug and play Ableton is nice I admit and has a much more simple layout...buuut pretty much requires a midi keyboard to make some scores as with FL Studio I can use my PC keyboard for almost everything and then lay it out and record automations... but, to each their own. They all have pros and cons use what is easy for you to use |
| Marnie Foye 15.10.2011 |
Originally Posted by JoseIglesMusic
Plus when it really comes down to it you'll realize that getting the right synths are just as important if not more important than the right DAW. The stuff that comes bundled with your DAW just doesn't cut it. You're still going to want to shell out some cash on one of the big synths like Massive or Sylenth1. |
| Hillary Razdan 15.10.2011 |
Originally Posted by duerr
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| Hillary Razdan 15.10.2011 |
Originally Posted by mostapha
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| Lavenia Neild 15.10.2011 | I've been using FL since version 3. Maybe it's just my familiarity with the program, but I like it better than the rest. |
| Belen Wermes 15.10.2011 | technology is at the level now where all these software options are pretty legit. FL used to be a joke, but lots of big wheels use it - so obviously it's perfectly fine if it suits your needs ableton is really intimidating and at first you'll wonder what the hype is about, but the magic is under the hood and the extra tweakability it affords it users. i actually prefer a software that gets almost zero attention yet it's amazing, synapse orion 8. it's kind of like a more streamlined version of fruityloops, amazing workflow - one of if not the best. look at the kit many legendary albums were made with... Sgt.Peppers, Pet Sounds, you name it. do you believe those guys had gear capable of what fruity loops does? yeah right |
| Dorie Scelzo 15.10.2011 | Neither is the case. FL Studio is perfectly competent, but it does some weird things and isn't one of the top-end DAWs. I don't believe it's underrated at all, but I also am fully aware that a lot of people have gotten signed off of it. Tools < Talent. But |
| Malka Wickerham 15.10.2011 | You can make good music in both of these. I know some people that swear by Fruity Loops. It is really easy to sequence in Fruity but harder to do more advanced stuff. Ableton is easier to do advanced things but not as straight forward when just kicking a beat. Ableton is way better with sampling and when you slice a track it puts each slice on it's own sub channel. Ableton effects are way better and it sounds better. Fruity needs some manipulation to get the tracks to sound good. If you are patient with learning Live's interface it will payoff. You can also rewire Fruity in Ableton. I have had Fruity and Reason both rewired into Ableton and it works great. Just have to open up the programs in a certain sequence. |
| Leeanna Ayla 16.10.2011 | No name calling. |
| Hillary Razdan 16.10.2011 |
Originally Posted by lethal_pizzle
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| Marshall Aby 16.10.2011 |
Originally Posted by JoseIglesMusic
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| Hillary Razdan 16.10.2011 |
Originally Posted by tekki
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| Hillary Razdan 16.10.2011 |
Originally Posted by lethal_pizzle
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| Dione Haimes 15.10.2011 | Isnt FL studio Windows only anyway ? |
| Ada Matzkin 15.10.2011 | ableton is very user friendly and intuitive imo its the best production software ive used. |
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