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VST Instruments EVERYONE Should Have
Posted on: 28.06.2012 by Tobi Rabuse
First of all, I will start by saying that if you are going to start producing music or already are, you should have a MacBook Pro or an iMac running Ableton Live. (IMHO) (UNTIL BITWIG IS RELEASED!)

With Ableton Live, there is only a small selection of VST Instruments that you should need to use. These include:
  • NI Massive
  • DCAM Synth Squad
  • NI Battery 3


These 3 instruments, along with all of Ableton's FX and Instruments are all you need for an unlimited amount of awesome productions.
Tobi Rabuse
29.06.2012
Originally Posted by scamo
The comment about Microsoft not updating Windows to make it more secure is wrong. Microsoft constantly updates Windows, especially for security reasons.

scamo
I didn't say they didn't. I just said that Apple does it more often and more efficiently.
Rey Holubar
29.06.2012
The comment about Microsoft not updating Windows to make it more secure is wrong. Microsoft constantly updates Windows, especially for security reasons.

Edit/- The problem is they have to too often.

scamo
Tobi Rabuse
29.06.2012
Originally Posted by Maven
I really do like Sylenth1, pretty much my go to synth.
I have heard a lot of good things about Sylenth, but I am very much a perfectionist and can only really like a synth if it looks as good as it sounds. I guess that is why I use Massive, Synth Squad and Battery so much, because they also look good.

And I guess that is also why I like Mac's so much... Because they are clean and simple, same goes with Ableton.
Loreta Altema
29.06.2012
I honestly have only ever used Diva, and thats just recently with a trial version. I was more then impressed with it.

I have heard people talk about Zebra and MFM2, but I have no personal experience with them. Good company though that has some quality(aesthetic and acoustically) virtual synths, IMO.
Wallace Lawmaster
29.06.2012
Originally Posted by FILTHZ
First of all, I will start by saying that if you are going to start producing music or already are, you should have a MacBook Pro or an iMac running Ableton Live. (IMHO) (UNTIL BITWIG IS RELEASED!)

With Ableton Live, there is only a small selection of VST Instruments that you should need to use. These include:
  • NI Massive
  • DCAM Synth Squad
  • NI Battery 3


These 3 instruments, along with all of Ableton's FX and Instruments are all you need for an unlimited amount of awesome productions.
sorry, I'll keep my Mac Pro and synths that I already have.



Originally Posted by FILTHZ
No offence, but I believe Pro Tools is more of a DAW for Artists that use Analog Instruments such as Guitars, Pianos, Drums, etc. It may look better than Ableton, but I bet if you ask any EDM artist, they will say Ableton Live is their go to DAW.
Originally Posted by FILTHZ
You use two of the worst DAW's I have ever come into contact with.
well that's their prerogative to use what "clicks" with them and music production. Pro Tools is a good program too and any style of music can be written in it. Personally, I use Live, but have used Pro Tools on occasion.
Tobi Rabuse
29.06.2012
Originally Posted by m00n
Anyone else messed with Diva??
Its going to be my next purchase for sure. Been using the demo for about 3 weeks now and I love it.. Butttt, in Diva mode its a HOGGGGG! Def need to throw some cash on a faster studio rig.
Just had a look at the U-HE website. I had never heard of them until you brought up Diva. I am very impressed and am definitely considering throwing some cash in that direction. Diva looks hectic.
Tobi Rabuse
29.06.2012
Originally Posted by drewspuppet
Ha. I produce EDM... will use anything BUT Ableton.. I personally do not jive with it at all. Cubase and Reaper here...
You use two of the worst DAW's I have ever come into contact with.
Yukiko Beauvil
28.06.2012
I really do like Sylenth1, pretty much my go to synth.
Loreta Altema
28.06.2012
Anyone else messed with Diva??
Its going to be my next purchase for sure. Been using the demo for about 3 weeks now and I love it.. Butttt, in Diva mode its a HOGGGGG! Def need to throw some cash on a faster studio rig.
Terra Merigold
28.06.2012
Originally Posted by FILTHZ
..It may look better than Ableton, but I bet if you ask any EDM artist, they will say Ableton Live is their go to DAW.

.

Ha. I produce EDM... will use anything BUT Ableton.. I personally do not jive with it at all. Cubase and Reaper here...
Dorie Scelzo
28.06.2012
PT works just fine with MIDI. And I use it primarily with audio bounced from Maschine anyway, so that's vaguely true. But it's not like Electronic = Ableton. Not by a long shot. If nothing else, Ableton doesn't have a score editor. For the few of us who can read music, that's a detractor. Plus, Live doesn't seem to have anything as worry-free as Avid's Channel Strip, and the interface is just clunky.

I'm not saying PT is better…just that there is no best solution. I own both, as well as Logic…and PT is the only one installed. I only haven't sold Logic because of laziness and Ableton because I may use it to DJ again in the future. I certainly don't want to pay that price again, and PT was cheaper with an educational discount ($295 instead of the regular like $900 that I'd still probably pay if I had to).

And, again, the comment about macs and viruses is just wrong.

And I'm an Apple fanboy.

Apple has relied on smaller market share making them an unattractive target. That may not be the case moving forward, and MS does released security updates a lot more often than Apple does. It doesn't matter…just have a virus scanner and run it on any files you don't explicitly trust and occasionally just for the heck of it because there is no such thing as a completely secure computer, especially when the default install comes with heinously outdated copies of OpenSSH and Apache…which have much larger market shares than Apple and will always be imperfect.

Telling people they don't need to take basic precautions because they run OS X is just plain ignorant.

Frankly, I'm surprised that OS X and iOS haven't been bigger targets than they are because of that viewpoint. As long as the virus didn't impede performance or damage the system, it'd be years before most OS X users would notice it. An undisturbed bot net operating in the wild for years at a time would be a dream to some people.
Tobi Rabuse
28.06.2012
No offence, but I believe Pro Tools is more of a DAW for Artists that use Analog Instruments such as Guitars, Pianos, Drums, etc. It may look better than Ableton, but I bet if you ask any EDM artist, they will say Ableton Live is their go to DAW.

On your comment about virus's on Mac's, it was only just found 2 days ago that Apple removed the statement, "Mac's don't get PC Virus's!" and although there may be virus's out for Mac at the moment, you can bet that when OSX Mountain Lion is out, Apple will have patched it as Apple are always looking and fixing potential exploits and consistently release updates and patches... Something Windows doesn't do.
Dorie Scelzo
28.06.2012
Originally Posted by FILTHZ
[Macs] are also immune to virus's and have anti-theft software so you are able to locate your computer meaning you will never lose any of your projects.
I'm a mac fanboy, and that's complete bullshit. Cleaned some viruses of my MBP the other day. Apple even took that claim off their marketing materials. Honestly, I'd be more worried about viruses for iOS
Armand Mamula
28.06.2012
Well, that was a nice reply i must admit.

I believe the biggest deal for me would be the OS of Mac
Tobi Rabuse
28.06.2012
Nice question.

I have experimented with many different DAW's, mostly on PC. I started with FL Studio 9 and used that while I was learning and didn't really even know to much about other DAW's.

At the time I had heard a lot about Ableton and I decided to try it out, but it comparison to FL Studio, it was to difficult for me to use at the time. I have also tried Cubase and absolutely hated it.

As soon as I bought a Mac I started using Logic Pro 9 and absolutely loved it, but as I also love to DJ and perform live, I decided I would try Ableton again, and after learning about music production for a while it got easier to use and now I live and swear by it.

Ableton Live is just so intuitive and so well rounded. It comes with tonnes of FX and instruments which mean you don't have to go around looking for things such as EQ's and Bitcrushers. They're all included with Ableton Live Suite.

Although on the more expensive side of DAW's I would definitely consider you try it on PC. They have a 30 Day Free Trial for both Mac and PC.

I also recommend you get a Mac. The reason for this is that MacBook's and iMac's are so much easier to use for production, and all of the parts and software are made by the same company meaning that you will never cross a problem. They are also immune to virus's and have anti-theft software so you are able to locate your computer meaning you will never lose any of your projects.
Armand Mamula
28.06.2012
Im interested in your opinion, that, everyone who are producing music should use Ableton/Mac combination, why is that? Have you yourself experimented on other setups?

Im using Pc/FLStudio combination, been using it for two years now, and love it, ofcourse there are some problems, but hey, just like in any good relationship(if you love eachother) you work the problems out, together.

I have many times tested Mac/Ableton because many of my friends use it, but i have never, ever, felt it would be in someway better than FLStudio, only different.
I have invested already two years in Fruity, so if i for some reason would switch to mac/ableton, i would have to invest, if not the same amount, still some time to get to know the program(even just using a Mac is hard for me because im so familiar with pc
Tobi Rabuse
28.06.2012
Nice, I recently just put a thread in the Buy/Sell trying to look for a used Maschine in Australia. No hits yet though. I don't mind Kontakt after using it for about a week, but I haven't used MiniMonsta or ABL2. I really don't like Sylenth though.

What DAW do you use and what do you run it on?
Nedra Fresneda
28.06.2012
Mainly Sylenth, ABL2, MiniMonsta and Kontakt. Added Maschine 2 days ago to the list.
Tobi Rabuse
28.06.2012
What do you use, I am open to suggestions.
Nedra Fresneda
28.06.2012
Thx but I'll keep my set of different plugins

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