I'm about to take the red pill and start a Eurorack modular setup, god help me.
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I'm about to take the red pill and start a Eurorack modular setup, god help me. Posted on: 31.05.2012 by Romelia Stankard The decision has been made, I'm going to start off with a small 3u system and order as much as I can tomorrow so that I can still eat for the next week- which puts me at about a $1600 budget tops including shipping. Eventually I will expand to 6u and get another set of z-ears and put it in a $15 Ikea converted 6u rack space for a budget case.Still debating what to order and how to get in budget, I'm just under $1800 now, $1500 would be ideal. Selling a pair of 1200s last evening was what I needed. All modules are multifunctional and it's pretty much frequency modulation and routing madness in a small package. Forget a traditional setup I'm going for more wild. The expert sleepers module is an alternative to midi/cv and is supposedly much tighter, allows using the expert sleepers software for additional modulation in your DAW but mostly looking at it for better timing through digital connection (they make a bigger optical version instead of spdif but I don't have a card with optical out) since I don't really want to use the software at first but then it is tied to my daw. I may just get a cheaper midi/cv interface so I can get in budget just not sure yet. Also looking for used modules but stuff on the muffwiggler community flies. The good stuff gets snatched up in hours it's crazy. I'm nuts for considering this, but it's what I've wanted for a long time and I can't wait to see what this does for my workflow and experimentation. Also those fancy stackable patch cables are expensive, $100+ on cables. one of the osc doing some FM The PEG I guess I'll keep this thread updated on my adventures. | |
| Georgina Schatzman 20.07.2012 |
Originally Posted by muffintop
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| Nana Mohs 11.07.2012 |
Originally Posted by JasonBay
Welcome to my signature. Kisses! muffintop Also, in regards to the circuit bending discussion I seem to be outnumbered here. I personally like it. (not the over the top stuff but some circuit bent stuff is great) |
| Wiley Pollastrini 24.01.2013 | this looks awesome, i dont know anything about any of this but im gonna read up because it just looks fun. |
| Sylvia Greener 23.12.2012 | I assume he's no longer able to leave his room as new racks are already blocking the doors. |
| Lorette Corsino 22.12.2012 | were there anymore updates and or videos you have made since July?? i would be interested to see them! |
| Audrey Pinda 22.12.2012 | Man, this is honestly inspiring. I need to learn more about this now. Planning on getting into the production game realistically in-depth... and well, looking at options and this is damn interesting. Great read as well, nice seeing the progression |
| Lorette Corsino 21.12.2012 | OMG that is heavenly! i am very jealous...damn student loans |
| Georgina Schatzman 20.07.2012 |
Originally Posted by muffintop
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| Georgina Schatzman 20.07.2012 | Super dope dude, but don't forget to go outside once in awhile now! |
| Romelia Stankard 19.07.2012 | well, my case is now completely full I just got the make noise rene sequencer. Having fun with it, it's a pretty deep module and can get some complex sequences, still need to figure it out. Here's a little video of my first jam messing with it. All sounds 100% from the modular and managed to fit every module in- I was trying to get some sort of snare out of it in there but I kinda ran out of modules. The Rene is playing a 16 step sequence which goes to the piston honda and one of the VCObs. On the Y axis of the sequence I used a separate trigger so each time it changes lines it sends a Y axis trigger which fires the kick which is just a quick envelope on a filtered sine wave. It's kind of fun working within limits and trying to figure out patch ideas and workarounds. I really like the sequencer and not being tied to a computer. |
| Nana Mohs 11.07.2012 |
Originally Posted by JasonBay
Welcome to my signature. Kisses! muffintop Also, in regards to the circuit bending discussion I seem to be outnumbered here. I personally like it. (not the over the top stuff but some circuit bent stuff is great) |
| Romelia Stankard 05.07.2012 | I feel like I just struck eurorack gold. Maths is the most in demand module and there has been a drought of them for the past 3-4 months and no new production planned until end of the summer so I snagged one in a trade. The current state of my rack once my shipment from analogue haven comes tomorrow: My eventual plan for my 6u is going to be like this over the next month Once I fill 6u I am not going to buy another case for a while since I will have a lot of power in a smaller case. This is a lot of fun and all but it is totally consuming and I am really blowing way more money way faster than I expected so it will be nice not to stare at empty rack space for a little while and get some sanity back. Lets see how long that lasts. |
| Dorie Scelzo 21.06.2012 | Heh…nice. |
| Romelia Stankard 22.06.2012 | hey mostapha just came across this... apparently they make eurorack breakout panels for the cirklon still probably not going to get one but it's cool |
| Romelia Stankard 20.06.2012 |
Originally Posted by mostapha
anyway- still figuring this thing out. no manual and nothing labeled.... you can control switching between waveforms and banks of waveforms with cv from oscillators or whatever and then have it morph between them as it switches. I really need to chill out on buying modules for a few weeks |
| Dorie Scelzo 20.06.2012 |
Originally Posted by Xonetacular
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| Romelia Stankard 20.06.2012 |
Originally Posted by mostapha
yeah that thing looks sweet but I believe I want to stay inside eurorack format for now.
Originally Posted by ekwipt
This Piston Honda I just got is pretty damn crazy. |
| Rochel Gleese 20.06.2012 | Expert Sleepers and a z8000 looks like a great combo |
| Dorie Scelzo 19.06.2012 | Seriously, check out the circlon I posted on page 1 (i use the same posts/page settings you do). It's really kind of impressive. Or, for a cheaper alternative |
| Romelia Stankard 18.06.2012 | I believe this thing gained consciousness and is going to attack just messing around http://soundcloud.com/dsm5/modular-noise-peg-test-2 |
| Georgina Schatzman 18.06.2012 | Dude, get that shit! All these dubstep kids who believe their Massive patch's sound mean don't have shit on this! Seriously sounds like it would rip your head of if it could. Time to bring techno back in a mean way. |
| Romelia Stankard 18.06.2012 | Yeah for sure, thanks- it's a lot of fun which is what counts. Piston Honda module is on its way and next on my wishlist is probably this: I would love to run some drums through that thing too. I've been fascinated with really gritty interesting sounds and have been listening to a lot of CLR stuff the past week or so. Then probably some sort of sequencer- would like to be able to play and sequence stuff all from modular- I like the idea of no keyboards or sequencing from inside a daw and the way it forces you to work- maybe just to send clock. I also have some DIY stuff and kits on my list since I want to get started learning about that and there are some simple eurorack DIY projects with nice panels people sell. |
| Georgina Schatzman 17.06.2012 | Nice dude! Some super dope stuff going on, regardless of if it's "useable" or not. It's all a learning experience and once you wrap your head around everything, THAT'S when you'll start doing some damage. Just keep at it! |
| Romelia Stankard 17.06.2012 | I was messing around trying to figure out how to use the PEG and finally read the manual on the midi/cv interface and got it to receive clock from ableton. I came up with an interesting patch- there is no external note sequencing- the oscillators are just self running without midi and the modular is only receiving clock output from ableton which I routed to the pingable envelope generator (i.e. pinging it) and the result is below. The peg is then modulating itself and driving the filter and amp- and the two oscillators are FMing each other. Pretty cool for a little setup- I only have an old digital camera with no ext. audio input so sorry for the crappy sound. http://soundcloud.com/dsm5/modular-peg-patch-1 |
| Rochel Gleese 17.06.2012 | I really like the track man especially once all the sounds kick in |
| Romelia Stankard 17.06.2012 | I caved and ordered a Piston Honda and am broke again let the fax machine noises begin, I'm not crazy about a lot of the abrasive noise demos on youtube of a lot of modules but the morphing between wavetables is really cool and filtered should sound pretty awesome and is the kind of weird stuff I'm look to make |
| Romelia Stankard 16.06.2012 | sample of what I've been messing with toevening
. http://soundcloud.com/dsm5/modular-techno-jamming I should really try to flesh this out into an actual track this weekend |
| Romelia Stankard 15.06.2012 |
Originally Posted by mostapha
I might just record what I've been messing around with and upload something in a bit |
| Dorie Scelzo 15.06.2012 | Pretty. When do we get to hear some of this stuff? |
| Romelia Stankard 15.06.2012 | Finished my super cheap ikea 6u rack case Ikea rast $15 6u rack rails $8 form parts express rack screws $3 misc wood and parts from lowes (had them cut back panel piece there) $10 ~$40 total Tiptop happy ending kit $150 (already had it) extra z-ears and rails- $40 Not bad for a nice looking case with power |
| Rochel Gleese 16.06.2012 | He sounds like a chilled dude |
| Rebbecca Fennell 15.06.2012 | I've made it a point to stop looking at analog haven. Last time I checked it out I really had to rein in the imagination and self control to not want to empty out my wallet on a vermona perfourmer and a rack full of cv sequencers. |
| Romelia Stankard 14.06.2012 | Another Drumcell interview and vid of jamming |
| Rochel Gleese 12.06.2012 | The Modcan digital stuff looks the biz as well |
| Romelia Stankard 11.06.2012 | I'm trying to figure out what to get next. May go for an analogue solution sh-nz sample and hold and noise module. Also looking into new oscilators. The makenoize DPO is coming out soon for crazy analog dual osc with FM, waveshapers, and more. Also believeing about digital oscs like the cyclebox/ hertz donut or the WMD gamma wave source for dual wavetables. I will want some fx and z-dsp is looking more and more tempting with the new programs people are making for it. |
| Dorie Scelzo 12.06.2012 |
Originally Posted by RockingClub
The big reason that a lot of studios are switching away is that most of the large format analog consoles in service today are 25 to 40 years old……and broken. One of the studios here has an API 1608 sitting in the closet because the owner got sick of explaining to clients why he couldn't use all the features of all the channels and why the thing was covered in tape to remind him what worked and what didn't. And, really, music is cheap now, especially with electronic music. You need a decent room, some speakers, a sound card, and software……a lot of the time, the computer you already have…and some controllers to taste…and you don't even need all of that to start out. Everything else is feeding a fetish or something that makes it easier to do certain tasks (like weird-ass modulations, real-time tweaking without automation, or avoiding mice). $500 for software and headphones goes a long way……and that's never been truer than it is now. |
| Sylvia Greener 11.06.2012 | There is always a way to make it even more expensive, no doubt. But compared to some other hobbies you can have (e.g. playing football or painting), music production definitely is one of the more pricey ones. That being said most professional studios do not even work with multitrack tape and big analog consoles (any longer) so why should an ambitious amateur or semi-pro do so? |
| Dorie Scelzo 11.06.2012 | I mean……none of us are recording to multitrack tape and using big analog consoles………that's a lot of money we're not spending right there. |
| Sylvia Greener 11.06.2012 |
Originally Posted by Xonetacular
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| Dorie Scelzo 10.06.2012 |
Originally Posted by Xonetacular
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